At cqc the accuracy shouldn't matter much and should hurt the RR. Especially when you factor in aim assist. The bigger retical of the AR gives you more area where the enemy can be and still register a hit.

I personally can't use the Rr in cqc at all. Cbr/scrp for life. The rof allows folks to weave between my bullets too easily.

I have decided to consolidate all my thoughts and mathematical analysis regarding the great AR vs RR debate in one thread, as I'm tired of having to dig up the stuff I said/equated in other threads every time a new one pops up. Please not these are copy pastas of previous discussions.

So without further adu, my mega thread of mathematical doom. Please feel free to check my work. I did most of it by h#nd so some numbers are approximate

Post one--------------- cqc factors

run gek 38s so I am biased, but I decided to sho with math why RR are op, and beat AR in close ranged, when they should not by canon/intention. These figures are using the standard variants of each. The difference may be greater or lesser in adv. And proto. Variants. I use a term call hose time to describe the amount of time it takes to fire a whole clip/magazine.

AR DPS= 435. RR DPS = 432
Ar hose time= 4.8. RR hose time= 5.6
Damage per magazine Ar =2040 RR =2400
Accuracy: Ar= 55.1. RR = 58.26

What gives the RR the edge is its increased damage per magazine and extended duration to spray a d pray, as well as its greater hip firei accuracy. An Ar will get less bullets on target due to its decreased hip fire accuracy, and will have to reload sooner while an RR can keep spraying bullets in his face. Even if you factor in the .25 charge up time the RR only loses 108 damage at the start of the engagement while gaining 344 after an Ar would need to reload. I can only assume these numbers become greater with higher tier rail rifles. That coupled with the higher effective range and lack of dispersion while aiming down sites makes them much More powerful then Ar s in just about all circumstances.

Please note I did all this math by hand and would appreciate someone checking my work, and please forgive any formatting or spelling errors, this tablet hates me.

As far as my reccomendations to make the RR function more in line with e role it was Intended, I think simply reducing the hip fire accuracy would make it perform more in line with the role it was designed for, much like tactile Ars are very inaccurate fired from the hip. Reducing its ammo capacity or ROF some might also make it less effective in cqc, however I think that might nerf the gun more then needed

i cant remember the last time i had a cqc scuffle that lasted more than 4.8 seconds

Highest damage and longest range should never be put together in a single full-auto gun. One or the other!

Smart players who use the RR always tap R1 so that when they engage an enemy the RR starts firing instantly.

U forgot that aiming down scope ar dosnt move for half a clip where as the rail jumps all over the place. To biased to take seriosly uv not got into ar pop and cover enouth and im glad ar is dead seen enouth to nealy kill dust qq

Honestly, The Rail rifle needs to spool up for every shot. Instead of reduced kick, have the skill reduce spool up time, or something along those lines. Rails hit hard from far away, but their strength is alpha strikes, not sustained dps. That's where the plasma rifle comes in. Each individual round shouldn't be a problem. Its how many rounds you can pump into them in a small time frame.

Thus, have the RR spool up between each shot. Increase damage slightly to compensate, and perhaps slightly increase spool up time. Have the PR deal slightly less damage, but have a higher ROF and more ammo in the magazine, along with more ammo carried overall. Say 80 rounds per magazine, with 4 reserve magazines. Rail rifles have a mag of 40 with 4 in reserve.

PR should stomp RR if they can catch them. But first, they must catch the RR. This is the Caldari way of warfare. Stay out of range of those blasters and whittle them down. Gallente warfare is use a mix of armor for protection and speed to close the distance, use blasters to wipe the floor with the enemy, and repair quickly to move on to the next engagement.