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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
1510
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Posted - 2014.01.24 01:56:00 -
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Please CCP do not allow these horrible, revolting, disgusting behavior in PC 2.0.
And, well, here's a friendly reminder too.
Thanks.
Tank 514.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
4219
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Posted - 2014.01.24 02:01:00 -
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+1
One alliance should not own 120 districts.....and they say district locking is bad....
Winner of at least 11 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
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Espartoi
Zero-Day Attack
Zero-Day
8
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Posted - 2014.01.24 02:25:00 -
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What is the concept of PC 2.0?.
I hope something more like a siege mode. LIke if you capture X point you where able to launch orbital strikes or to deploy vehicles a more tactic stuff. |
Azura Sakura
Blood Eye Ravens
558
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Posted - 2014.01.24 03:27:00 -
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That time zone on Japan smh |
Odigos Ellinas
NECROM0NGERS
The CORVOS
2
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Posted - 2014.01.24 03:36:00 -
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CCP just needs to remove the timer from PC. 1-2 Hours to prepare defense is enough. Attack has always a element of surprise.
Benefits:
1) This will prevent small corps to hold 1/4 of the districts in Molden Heath.
2)Corporations who wand to get involve in PC will need to have players from around the world to defend and attack any time.
3)More Corporations will be able to get in PC. |
da GAND
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
281
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Posted - 2014.01.24 03:38:00 -
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PC.... whats that? oh right that laggy, expensive skirmish mode
Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you.
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
384
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Posted - 2014.01.24 03:42:00 -
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Odigos Ellinas wrote:CCP just needs to remove the timer from PC. 1-2 Hours to prepare defense is enough. Attack has always a element of surprise.
Benefits:
1) This will prevent small corps to hold 1/4 of the districts in Molden Heath.
2)Corporations who wand to get involve in PC will need to have players from around the world to defend and attack any time.
3)More Corporations will be able to get in PC.
I've already made a thread discussing this. Has yet to get any actual attention though lol
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1213
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Posted - 2014.01.24 03:48:00 -
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Odigos Ellinas wrote:CCP just needs to remove the timer from PC. 1-2 Hours to prepare defense is enough. Attack has always a element of surprise.
Benefits:
1) This will prevent small Corporations, to hold 1/4 of the districts in Molden Heath.
2)Corporations who would get involved in PC, need to have players from around the world to defend and attack any time.
3)More Corporations will be able to get in PC.
In reality, this would drastically reduce the number of fights in the game. Almost all of PC would be no-shows.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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JL3Eleven
1661
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Posted - 2014.01.24 03:48:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:+1
One alliance should not own 120 districts.....and they say district locking is bad....
District locking is bad but that doesn't stop some people 
Supercorp: A corporation with the ability to shape and control events and project power on a New Eden-wide scale.
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Jackof All-Trades
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
373
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Posted - 2014.01.24 03:50:00 -
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Odigos Ellinas wrote:CCP just needs to remove the timer from PC. 1-2 Hours to prepare defense is enough. Attack has always a element of surprise.
Benefits:
1) This will prevent small Corporations, to hold 1/4 of the districts in Molden Heath.
2)Corporations who would get involved in PC, need to have players from around the world to defend and attack any time.
3)More Corporations will be able to get in PC.
On top of Skirmish 1.0, which was always biased towards defenders, this looks a promising solution
"Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Omni-Specialist
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1214
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Posted - 2014.01.24 03:54:00 -
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Jackof All-Trades wrote:Odigos Ellinas wrote:CCP just needs to remove the timer from PC. 1-2 Hours to prepare defense is enough. Attack has always a element of surprise.
Benefits:
1) This will prevent small Corporations, to hold 1/4 of the districts in Molden Heath.
2)Corporations who would get involved in PC, need to have players from around the world to defend and attack any time.
3)More Corporations will be able to get in PC. On top of Skirmish 1.0, which was always biased towards defenders, this looks a promising solution
Nyain San agrees with you. They would love you to support a idea that will give them 100% district control.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Odigos Ellinas
NECROM0NGERS
The CORVOS
4
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Posted - 2014.01.24 03:55:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Odigos Ellinas wrote:CCP just needs to remove the timer from PC. 1-2 Hours to prepare defense is enough. Attack has always a element of surprise.
Benefits:
1) This will prevent small Corporations, to hold 1/4 of the districts in Molden Heath.
2)Corporations who would get involved in PC, need to have players from around the world to defend and attack any time.
3)More Corporations will be able to get in PC. In reality, this would drastically reduce the number of fights in the game. Almost all of PC would be no-shows. Also, Nyain San would own 100% of the districts, because there aren't enough players in the game in that time zone that aren't Nyain San.
For the same reason you say Nyan San will own 100% of the districts they will lose them. They don't have EU, US timezone members(or not large numbers).
This will force Corporations to search worldwide for members because the benefits from districts will be given on 24hours base. |
KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
3983
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Posted - 2014.01.24 03:57:00 -
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Why hasn't CCP just disbanded that S**t of a corp already?
Everybody knows they cheat all the time, Pad stats , etc...
If it was me, i would have disbanded that joke of a corp a long time ago ....
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1214
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Posted - 2014.01.24 03:58:00 -
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Odigos Ellinas wrote:For the same reason you say Nyan San will own 100% of the districts they will lose them. They don't have EU, US timezone members(or not large numbers).
This will force Corporations to search worldwide for members because the benefits from districts will be given on 24hours base.
Incorrect.
1. Nyain San got all those districts because they're more than willing to alarm clock. So they'll defend them.
2. It doesn't matter, because every night at Asian prime, they'll take all their districts back, if they lost any during the day.
3. If you want to try again the next day, it will cost you more ISK. It will not cost them more ISK, because they make a billion a day.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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JL3Eleven
1662
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Posted - 2014.01.24 04:00:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Odigos Ellinas wrote:For the same reason you say Nyan San will own 100% of the districts they will lose them. They don't have EU, US timezone members(or not large numbers).
This will force Corporations to search worldwide for members because the benefits from districts will be given on 24hours base. Incorrect. 1. Nyain San got all those districts because they're more than willing to alarm clock. So they'll defend them. 2. It doesn't matter, because every night at Asian prime, they'll take all their districts back, if they lost any during the day. 3. If you want to try again the next day, it will cost you more ISK. It will not cost them more ISK, because they make a billion a day.
This^ they are a dedicated group.
Supercorp: A corporation with the ability to shape and control events and project power on a New Eden-wide scale.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1216
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Posted - 2014.01.24 04:02:00 -
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So the sum total of your idea, is that Nyain San will keep their districts. Nyain San will take your districts. And more than likely, you'll never actually get a PC fight, because they'll take your districts while you're asleep, and there will be nothing you can do about it, except feel ashamed that you suggested CCP do it. It will cost Nyain San effectively nothing, but it will cost you a clone pack every time you try to get back into PC. They will bleed you dry, your corp morale will die, and that will be that.
That's why your idea won't work. Sorry. :9
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Odigos Ellinas
NECROM0NGERS
The CORVOS
4
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Posted - 2014.01.24 04:05:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Odigos Ellinas wrote:For the same reason you say Nyan San will own 100% of the districts they will lose them. They don't have EU, US timezone members(or not large numbers).
This will force Corporations to search worldwide for members because the benefits from districts will be given on 24hours base. Incorrect. 1. Nyain San got all those districts because they're more than willing to alarm clock. So they'll defend them. 2. It doesn't matter, because every night at Asian prime, they'll take all their districts back, if they lost any during the day. 3. If you want to try again the next day, it will cost you more ISK. It will not cost them more ISK, because they make a billion a day.
1. Alarm clock for what if there is no timer???
2.So let them take all districts for the night you get them for the day. No ISK no clones if you don't hold the district for 24hours!!!
3.It will cost both sides ISK because no one gets ISK if they don't hold a district 24hours. |
Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1218
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Posted - 2014.01.24 04:09:00 -
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1. It's called a phone. One guy who's up at that time, calls other people, wakes them up. Also, if you're hoping to take it from them without a fight, why are you playing an FPS?
2. This doesn't help you any. And again, they're still going to kick your rear. And own 100% of Molden Heath.
3. Nyain's already printing a billion a day. You don't think they can keep up with you?
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Odigos Ellinas
NECROM0NGERS
The CORVOS
6
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Posted - 2014.01.24 04:19:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:1. It's called a phone. One guy who's up at that time, calls other people, wakes them up. Also, if you're hoping to take it from them without a fight, why are you playing an FPS?
2. This doesn't help you any. And again, they're still going to kick your rear. And own 100% of Molden Heath.
3. Nyain's already printing a billion a day. You don't think they can keep up with you?
1.what will they do have a 24hour call center??? A lot of corps who are not in PC will take the opportunity. The pie will shared new in a few days.
2. it will not be possible for a corp who is in just 1 time zone to benefit from PC.
3.Why are you so scared about Nyan San??? |
Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1218
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Posted - 2014.01.24 04:27:00 -
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1. It's not that hard. Serious players are serious. Nyain will win.
2. Incorrect.
3. I'm not. I'm just telling you your idea isn't going to work the way you think it will.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Odigos Ellinas
NECROM0NGERS
The CORVOS
8
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Posted - 2014.01.24 04:40:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:1. It's not that hard. Serious players are serious. Nyain will win.
2. Incorrect.
3. I'm not. I'm just telling you your idea isn't going to work the way you think it will.
1. Incorrect
2. Your Argument is Invalid. Benefits from districts only if you hold a district from 1st server shout down to the 2nd.(24+hours)
3. Yes you are.
My idea is great don't be jealous because its not yours. |
Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1222
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:10:00 -
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Nyain has shown a record for showing up at all times of day to claim districts. They can. You can't. Enough said.
They already make a billion a day. They're already dominant. You can't afford to keep districts for 24 hours, but not everyone will take Nyain's districts. While they will easily continue to profit, your corp, and others like it, will never hold the district for 24 hours. The only corp who will profit, again, is Nyain San.
Definitely not jealous of your intelligence, buddy. Sorry.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2234
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:13:00 -
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I have one thing to say about PC 2.0:
MAKE LOCATION MATTER!!!
PC 1.0 is like a board game where you can move any piece to any square in a single move.
Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
2602
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:33:00 -
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These 24 and 48 hour timers along with the cost of attacking from non land owners keeps PC from being active and being dominated by small elite corps.
That and the lack of a team deploy UI makes a lot of people loathe the entire process. Building teams for multiple attacks in a short period is like herding cats.
I'll tell you with 100% absolute certainty that changing the way these timers work will create competition and activity in PC. If they changed the way these timers work a coalition could easily take half of Renegade Alliance's districts in one sitting. I could see them being about to hold 25 or so districts on a daily basis at their activity levels. They are really good so they could take districts everytime they set their mind to it. But they couldn't hold of them.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Odigos Ellinas
NECROM0NGERS
The CORVOS
9
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:34:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Nyain has shown a record for showing up at all times of day to claim districts. They can. You can't. Enough said.
They already make a billion a day. They're already dominant. You can't afford to keep districts for 24 hours, but not everyone will take Nyain's districts. While they will easily continue to profit, your corp, and others like it, will never hold the district for 24 hours. The only corp who will profit, again, is Nyain San.
Definitely not jealous of your intelligence, buddy. Sorry.
Nyan San has 105 members and 62 districts. If there is no timer you need 992 (62*16)members to defend 62 districts and that 24hours. Not possible!!!!! without timer there will be no corp holding that amount of districts !!!!
Give me facts or stop talking. |
steadyhand amarr
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
2196
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:38:00 -
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Face palm i support the 24 hour model with an hour warning those saying alarm clock raids have clearly had a brain fail and missed have all time zones covered bit.
Also with a move to 24/7 payouts should be hourly that way its worth taking and holding even for a short.
(pkease font be retarted and think i mean current 24 hour payout every hour obsovsuly that needs to ne address.
Do agree nyan sayn needs looking into though given members have openly addmited to cheating on voice comms. And frankly everyone has first hand edvidance of stange matches vs them like "whole ******* clips not registring"
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
2602
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:06:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Face palm i support the 24 hour model with an hour warning those saying alarm clock raids have clearly had a brain fail and missed have all time zones covered bit.
Also with a move to 24/7 payouts should be hourly that way its worth taking and holding even for a short.
(pkease font be retarted and think i mean current 24 hour payout every hour obsovsuly that needs to ne address.
Do agree nyan sayn needs looking into though given members have openly addmited to cheating on voice comms. And frankly everyone has first hand edvidance of stange matches vs them like "whole ******* clips not registring"
Tie the payouts to winning attacks/defenses with multipliers for consecutive wins (multiple attack district flips) and multiple defensive wins.
The payout system would have to be reworked. I haven't put enough thought into because the corp would need some sort of income in addition to taxes to be viable in PC.
But the passive ISK should be removed.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1356
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:34:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Face palm i support the 24 hour model with an hour warning those saying alarm clock raids have clearly had a brain fail and missed have all time zones covered bit.
Also with a move to 24/7 payouts should be hourly that way its worth taking and holding even for a short.
(pkease font be retarted and think i mean current 24 hour payout every hour obsovsuly that needs to ne address.
Do agree nyan sayn needs looking into though given members have openly addmited to cheating on voice comms. And frankly everyone has first hand edvidance of stange matches vs them like "whole ******* clips not registring"
^This + them "printing a billion ISK a day" = IMHO enough justification for CCP to reclaim all PC ISK.
Do it CCP, smack the **** out of them like you would if they were RMTers in Eve.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Paul Ellinas
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
33
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:41:00 -
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A good idea about PC 2.0 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=145067&find=unread |
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