DUST Search - Not What I Had In Mind

Asha Starwind wrote:

RedZer0 MK1 wrote:

When I saw the racial bonuses to to Logis, I thought "yeah, makes sense". That was until the across the board drop in equipment quality was announced. The quality was never the problem, the quanity is. The net effect of the Logi bonus is you get ONE equipment the way it is now, while all the others suffer. I want to reign in equipment spam as much as the next guy, but this will encourage (Drop in quality will force quantity). If there is to be a drop in equipment quality, make it a 10% drop. So a Logi at level 5 will get something a little better than we have now.

Also, the fix for equipment spam is to limit everything to one active at a time. Meaning only one uplink across tiers, and one hive across tiers. Yet, to make higher tiers more attractive, increased number of items held. I'm talking like at least six uplinks at proto level. It would make uplink PROTECTION vital.

How will quantity increase when there are hard limits to how much you can put down, and the spam is already hitting those limits?

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RedZer0 MK1 The Generals General Tso's Alliance 158	Posted - 2014.01.23 19:11:00 - [1] - Quote When I saw the racial bonuses to to Logis, I thought "yeah, makes sense". That was until the across the board drop in equipment quality was announced. The quality was never the problem, the quanity is. The net effect of the Logi bonus is you get ONE equipment the way it is now, while all the others suffer. I want to reign in equipment spam as much as the next guy, but this will encourage (Drop in quality will force quantity). If there is to be a drop in equipment quality, make it a 10% drop. So a Logi at level 5 will get something a little better than we have now. Also, the fix for equipment spam is to limit everything to one active at a time. Meaning only one uplink across tiers, and one hive across tiers. Yet, to make higher tiers more attractive, increased number of items held. I'm talking like at least six uplinks at proto level. It would make uplink PROTECTION vital.
Vin Mora Sanguis Defense Syndicate 273	Posted - 2014.01.23 19:24:00 - [2] - Quote RedZer0 MK1 wrote: When I saw the racial bonuses to to Logis, I thought "yeah, makes sense". That was until the across the board drop in equipment quality was announced. The quality was never the problem, the quanity is. The net effect of the Logi bonus is you get ONE equipment the way it is now, while all the others suffer. I want to reign in equipment spam as much as the next guy, but this will encourage (Drop in quality will force quantity). If there is to be a drop in equipment quality, make it a 10% drop. So a Logi at level 5 will get something a little better than we have now. Also, the fix for equipment spam is to limit everything to one active at a time. Meaning only one uplink across tiers, and one hive across tiers. Yet, to make higher tiers more attractive, increased number of items held. I'm talking like at least six uplinks at proto level. It would make uplink PROTECTION vital. I agree, but make it 2 or 3 items on the ground per item type. So three total Nanohives, 3 total Uplinks so on. One is very restricting. Heck make it a perk of the Logi suit. Another good idea would be that equipment dropped disappears if the placer changes suits. Dieing and respawning, in the same suit, wouldn't affect it, but actively changing your suit after death or at a supply depot would. THat will really prevent the spam. Sanguis Defense Syndicate: Recruitment now open for players of all skill levels
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 217	Posted - 2014.01.23 19:25:00 - [3] - Quote RedZer0 MK1 wrote: When I saw the racial bonuses to to Logis, I thought "yeah, makes sense". That was until the across the board drop in equipment quality was announced. The quality was never the problem, the quanity is. The net effect of the Logi bonus is you get ONE equipment the way it is now, while all the others suffer. I want to reign in equipment spam as much as the next guy, but this will encourage (Drop in quality will force quantity). If there is to be a drop in equipment quality, make it a 10% drop. So a Logi at level 5 will get something a little better than we have now. Also, the fix for equipment spam is to limit everything to one active at a time. Meaning only one uplink across tiers, and one hive across tiers. Yet, to make higher tiers more attractive, increased number of items held. I'm talking like at least six uplinks at proto level. It would make uplink PROTECTION vital. How will quantity increase when there are hard limits to how much you can put down, and the spammers are already hitting those limits?
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1118	Posted - 2014.01.23 19:28:00 - [4] - Quote RedZer0 MK1 wrote: When I saw the racial bonuses to to Logis, I thought "yeah, makes sense". That was until the across the board drop in equipment quality was announced. The quality was never the problem, the quanity is. The net effect of the Logi bonus is you get ONE equipment the way it is now, while all the others suffer. I want to reign in equipment spam as much as the next guy, but this will encourage (Drop in quality will force quantity). If there is to be a drop in equipment quality, make it a 10% drop. So a Logi at level 5 will get something a little better than we have now. Also, the fix for equipment spam is to limit everything to one active at a time. Meaning only one uplink across tiers, and one hive across tiers. Yet, to make higher tiers more attractive, increased number of items held. I'm talking like at least six uplinks at proto level. It would make uplink PROTECTION vital. how did it ever make sense that an amarr logi could use a gallente gear item just as well as a gallente?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12517	Posted - 2014.01.23 19:30:00 - [5] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: RedZer0 MK1 wrote: When I saw the racial bonuses to to Logis, I thought "yeah, makes sense". That was until the across the board drop in equipment quality was announced. The quality was never the problem, the quanity is. The net effect of the Logi bonus is you get ONE equipment the way it is now, while all the others suffer. I want to reign in equipment spam as much as the next guy, but this will encourage (Drop in quality will force quantity). If there is to be a drop in equipment quality, make it a 10% drop. So a Logi at level 5 will get something a little better than we have now. Also, the fix for equipment spam is to limit everything to one active at a time. Meaning only one uplink across tiers, and one hive across tiers. Yet, to make higher tiers more attractive, increased number of items held. I'm talking like at least six uplinks at proto level. It would make uplink PROTECTION vital. How will quantity increase when there are hard limits to how much you can put down, and the spam is already hitting those limits? spammers are already working ways around it, one thing is there is only a limitiation per type, so you throw down variours types down instead. there is no 'bandwidth' ui, feature, nor attribute that would fix the overall deployment cap. But thats how guys can manage to shove 16 REs onto one LAV CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation ACME Holding Conglomerate 594	Posted - 2014.01.23 19:34:00 - [6] - Quote u say one uplink is resticting? thats funny how i place a single uplink in a certain area and suddenly turn the tide of a battle. in some matches. yet all some needs is to place 20 uplinks in roughly the same area and can hold that location for an eternity. i against lowering qualtity of equipment. im all for ruining the amount at which it can be spammed. although things like remote explosives and proxi mines should remain uneffected. making nanohives suck is not what i want.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1713	Posted - 2014.01.23 19:38:00 - [7] - Quote Thing is, the best way to test the ultimate balance of equipment is to make them all 'maxed out', this is what happened up through 1.7. However once specific role bonuses boost up the effectiveness of gear, that obtained balance is then broken. By reducing by an equivalent amount, you maintain that balance when bonuses boost it back up. The fact that each suit only gets 1 bonus assures that all Logi suits will be used and that one is not particularly better than the others. This is much like EVE where logistics ships will only get bonuses to particular logistics modules. 1.8 Sentinels Damage Efficiency Effective HP


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