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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:41:00 -
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You should be able to ADS while cloaked, but should have to drop cloak before firing. The way to do this is simple. First you can always decloak and recloak manually by pressing the trigger while the cloak is in your hands, then you can switch weapons and fire without delay. Alternatively, you can cloak, switch weapons and remain cloaked. You can ADS, provide overwatch to your squad, etc. When you pull the trigger while cloaked, you won't fire your weapon, but instead decloak and then there will some reasonable delay before being able to fire (1-2 seconds). Additionally, you won't be able to begin to charge a shot until after the delay has expired.
Scouts have the option of taking the firing delay penalty and having the advantage of lining up the shot before decloaking, or they can decloak, swap weapons and fire immediately. This is a balanced suggestion. One advantage is that snipers can now move out of the redline and engage from more strategic locations closer to the action without being such easy targets for counter-snipers. It also allows snipers to provide overwatch and intel to their squad as they use their scope to watch/report enemy troop movements.
Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
3102
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:43:00 -
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Or...or.....after the first shot, you de cloak.
Simple fix.
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // D-Uni instructor
A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
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Matobar
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
225
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:45:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Or...or.....after the first shot, you de cloak.
Simple fix.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1652
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:48:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Or...or.....after the first shot, you de cloak.
Simple fix.
I really liked the firing while cloaked. Was gonna ninja knife people.
Armor and Shields are not the same!
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Matobar
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
226
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:49:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Or...or.....after the first shot, you de cloak.
Simple fix. I really liked the firing while cloaked. Was gonna ninja knife people.
That's why they took it away. |
Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1189
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:58:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Or...or.....after the first shot, you de cloak.
For snipers and shotguns, we only need one shot.
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Gemini Reynolds
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:59:00 -
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Negative. Leave cloaking as a movement/positioning tool. If you can't make effective use of that? Then there's nothing that's going to help you. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
3105
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Posted - 2014.01.22 21:15:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Or...or.....after the first shot, you de cloak. For snipers and shotguns, we only need one shot.
Precisely my train of thought.
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // D-Uni instructor
A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
Forum warrior 3
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
821
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Posted - 2014.01.22 21:15:00 -
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Gemini Reynolds wrote:Negative. Leave cloaking as a movement/positioning tool. If you can't make effective use of that? Then there's nothing that's going to help you.
When did this become about me? It's a compromise proposal to add balance between the stealth game and the non-stealth game. It's a suggestion that would help make snipers more fun, interesting and relevant to the game. It would also make sniping from past the redline more viable, which I would think everyone would be happy with.
Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
3105
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Posted - 2014.01.22 21:16:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Or...or.....after the first shot, you de cloak.
Simple fix. I really liked the firing while cloaked. Was gonna ninja knife people. I just hope it doesn't make a loud noise when cloaking and decloaking.
Meh, was just trying to simplify the OPs suggestion.
I personally don't care atm, I want to see how it's used first
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // D-Uni instructor
A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
2605
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Posted - 2014.01.22 21:37:00 -
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talked to jenza
you have to be holding the cloak now...
"Imagine a world where hypothetical thoughts didn't exist" -Draxus Prime
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
431
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Posted - 2014.01.22 21:50:00 -
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Boooooooooo!!!!!
Why have a cloak and not be able to attack enemies ???
This game is a murder fest 90% of the time.....
And you expect people to cloak so they can limit their combat capabilities ???
If we can't use weapons while cloaked there is no point in using them...
Minmatar Demolitions Specialist
Plasma Cannon Pro
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
12495
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Posted - 2014.01.22 21:54:00 -
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Cloaks are not weapons
Just tools.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
431
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Posted - 2014.01.22 21:56:00 -
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meh....
Minmatar Demolitions Specialist
Plasma Cannon Pro
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2736
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Posted - 2014.01.22 22:08:00 -
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I'm so happy people are already unhappy with the cloak and won't even be bothering with it. It sounds great for a movement tool and weak as a surprise ganking tool. Perfect.
// Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1540
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Posted - 2014.01.22 22:09:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Boooooooooo!!!!!
Why have a cloak and not be able to attack enemies ???
This game is a murder fest 90% of the time.....
And you expect people to cloak so they can limit their combat capabilities ???
If we can't use weapons while cloaked there is no point in using them...
Maby just maby ccp intends for scouts to be scouts that relay intel to their squad either vocally or by scanning with assasination being their secondary role.
Think of it this way if yiu are cloaked near an objective and 1 merc appears to hack you have anbooertunity to get close before having to pull oit your wepon and decloak while closing for the kill. Now if you are closing in on the merc and another merc turns up to help in the hack you can remain unseen and back off and relay their position while waiting for back up. Cloaking isnt about killing its about being able to use stealth to put yourself into a position whare your able to strike.
Cloaks are not ment to get you easy kills they are ment for scouting and sneaking.
Its gone from suck .....to blow
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1654
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Posted - 2014.01.22 22:28:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cloaks are not weapons
Just tools.
So is my Rail Rifle. 
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SickJ
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
127
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Posted - 2014.01.23 03:28:00 -
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Simple: Cloak, find enemy, wait until he looks away, decloak, shotguntothebackofthehead, cloak, repeat
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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
2215
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Posted - 2014.01.23 03:30:00 -
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Gemini Reynolds wrote:Negative. Leave cloaking as a movement/positioning tool. If you can't make effective use of that? Then there's nothing that's going to help you.
Best answer ever. +1
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
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ladwar
Death by Disassociation
Legacy Rising
1968
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Posted - 2014.01.23 03:34:00 -
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i hope they mess up the sounding coding and it plays for everyone on the field....
.... i have evil ideas
Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet.
I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth
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