DUST Search - Tank vs Assault Dropship prices

Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:

Evan Gotabor wrote:

Vulpes Dolosus wrote:

ADSs are T2 hulls.

And it's not that bad really, much better than it was before. My best proto ADS (proto turret and mods where I can) only costs me 500k, much better than the 750k it was pre-1.7, and I only use my ADV ADS (ADV turret, still proto mods) in pubs, and it's only 400k. This equates to one about every 2-3 games, which if you're a decent pilot or thrifty, doesn't make it too difficult to keep in the black.

I have to agree that thanks to the 1.7 I have a dropship which is better and cost almost half the price I used to pay in 1.6.
In fact, the price is not that unbalanced, the hull is very costly I agree with that, but I know a tanker in my corp who pay the same price (more or less 450.000 ISK) for his Madrugar. Because even with a cheaper hull, he has to fit proto modules and a proto turret. While I can use an advanced turret (I don't think a proto turret worth the cost) and proto modules.

And remembrer that even with those damn militia rail-guns, we are a very useful tactical advantage for our squad and our team in general. We can do almost everything from extracting and cover infantry, to killing tower snipers and mountain tanks.
Not an easy job in every game, especially when there is more than 2 rail-tanks, but it certainly worth the cost in the end.

Good post and good points. I have a question for you then: is your friend in his 400k maddy just as afraid of mlt tankers as a DS is? I HAV, but only mlt, I don't know the proto tanker experience.

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Kharga Lum Arcana Imperii Ltd. 245	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:17:00 - [1] - Quote The Assault Dropship costs 3.3x more then a Gunnlogi/Madrugar. I'm talking base hull here. No mods. What's the logic behind this? Gunnlogi/Madrugar: 97,500 isk Python/Incubus: 322,995 isk These prices should be reversed.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1687	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:18:00 - [2] - Quote Wow really? I feel kinda bad swatting you guys out of the sky now. 1.8 Sentinels Damage Efficiency Effective HP
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2736	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:18:00 - [3] - Quote CCP hates dropship pilots.
Adelia Lafayette Science For Death 563	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:18:00 - [4] - Quote because it runs on pixie dust allowing it to fly. Pixie dust is a very rare commodity theses days. Disney has a stranglehold on it. Assault dropship gets blown up.... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "Kitten this I'm out"... ..."I'm back"
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3811	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:19:00 - [5] - Quote The Logic behind it you ask? Because CCP. Next On To-Do List: Particle Cannons
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 840	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:22:00 - [6] - Quote Kharga Lum wrote: The Assault Dropship costs 3.3x more then a Gunnlogi/Madrugar. I'm talking base hull here. No mods. What's the logic behind this? Gunnlogi/Madrugar: 97,500 isk Python/Incubus: 322,995 isk These prices should be reversed. Proto AV fits 150k - 250k Gunlogi/Madrugar - kills everything Pythin/Incubus - kills a lot of things (other than rail/Missile Tanks) AV - Kills ?! Errmm... Ummm... Nothing So what are you complaining about ?!
Kharga Lum Arcana Imperii Ltd. 245	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:24:00 - [7] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Kharga Lum wrote: The Assault Dropship costs 3.3x more then a Gunnlogi/Madrugar. I'm talking base hull here. No mods. What's the logic behind this? Gunnlogi/Madrugar: 97,500 isk Python/Incubus: 322,995 isk These prices should be reversed. Proto AV fits 150k - 250k Gunlogi/Madrugar - kills everything Pythin/Incubus - kills a lot of things (other than rail/Missile Tanks) AV - Kills ?! Errmm... Ummm... Nothing So what are you complaining about ?! The balance between AV and Vehicles is another issue...ya, it's a big one. This is not that thread.
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 652	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:24:00 - [8] - Quote ADSs are T2 hulls. And it's not that bad really, much better than it was before. My best proto ADS (proto turret and mods where I can) only costs me 500k, much better than the 750k it was pre-1.7, and I only use my ADV ADS (ADV turret, still proto mods) in pubs, and it's only 400k. This equates to one about every 2-3 games, which if you're a decent pilot or thrifty, doesn't make it too difficult to keep in the black. Dropship Specialist Kills- Incubus: 4; Pythons: 2 Gêå1; Other DS: 28 Gêå1; Tanks: 29 Gêå2 1/20
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro Omega Elite Mercs INC. 72	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:31:00 - [9] - Quote Agree, the price isn't terrible. I played all day without losing a single python, although I am very cautious. I just think a little bit of a drop would help out. I don't always fly you know, I like to run suits, especially when those proto forges tear my ship down, I am not calling in another. Maybe 200,000? If I hear a good reason why it's so high I might agree with you, but I don't think lowering the price is going to cause more of them to be around. And even so if there are more up in the sky's then maybe there will be less tanks to murder land mass and more aerial fights, or DBs that kamikaze. Or do they cost that much because we are not suppose to lose them and play more precise and intelligent than nethanderal tankers? FAME
Evan Gotabor Prima Gallicus 4	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:42:00 - [10] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: ADSs are T2 hulls. And it's not that bad really, much better than it was before. My best proto ADS (proto turret and mods where I can) only costs me 500k, much better than the 750k it was pre-1.7, and I only use my ADV ADS (ADV turret, still proto mods) in pubs, and it's only 400k. This equates to one about every 2-3 games, which if you're a decent pilot or thrifty, doesn't make it too difficult to keep in the black. I have to agree that thanks to the 1.7 I have a dropship which is better and cost almost half the price I used to pay in 1.6. In fact, the price is not that unbalanced, the hull is very costly I agree with that, but I know a tanker in my corp who pay the same price (more or less 450.000 ISK) for his Madrugar. Because even with a cheaper hull, he has to fit proto modules and a proto turret. While I can use an advanced turret (I don't think a proto turret worth the cost) and proto modules. And remembrer that even with those damn militia rail-guns, we are a very useful tactical advantage for our squad and our team in general. We can do almost everything from extracting and cover infantry, to killing tower snipers and mountain tanks. Not an easy job in every game, especially when there is more than 2 rail-tanks, but it certainly worth the cost in the end.
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 295	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:43:00 - [11] - Quote the standard cost 45 k soo the ADS should cost in around 90-110 k, thats how all the other variants work "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro Omega Elite Mercs INC. 73	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:55:00 - [12] - Quote Evan Gotabor wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: ADSs are T2 hulls. And it's not that bad really, much better than it was before. My best proto ADS (proto turret and mods where I can) only costs me 500k, much better than the 750k it was pre-1.7, and I only use my ADV ADS (ADV turret, still proto mods) in pubs, and it's only 400k. This equates to one about every 2-3 games, which if you're a decent pilot or thrifty, doesn't make it too difficult to keep in the black. I have to agree that thanks to the 1.7 I have a dropship which is better and cost almost half the price I used to pay in 1.6. In fact, the price is not that unbalanced, the hull is very costly I agree with that, but I know a tanker in my corp who pay the same price (more or less 450.000 ISK) for his Madrugar. Because even with a cheaper hull, he has to fit proto modules and a proto turret. While I can use an advanced turret (I don't think a proto turret worth the cost) and proto modules. And remembrer that even with those damn militia rail-guns, we are a very useful tactical advantage for our squad and our team in general. We can do almost everything from extracting and cover infantry, to killing tower snipers and mountain tanks. Not an easy job in every game, especially when there is more than 2 rail-tanks, but it certainly worth the cost in the end. Good post and good points. I have a question for you then: is your friend in his 400k maddy just as afraid of mlt tankers as a DS is? I HAV, but only mlt, I don't know the proto tanker experience. FAME
Evan Gotabor Prima Gallicus 5	Posted - 2014.01.22 21:02:00 - [13] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Evan Gotabor wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: ADSs are T2 hulls. And it's not that bad really, much better than it was before. My best proto ADS (proto turret and mods where I can) only costs me 500k, much better than the 750k it was pre-1.7, and I only use my ADV ADS (ADV turret, still proto mods) in pubs, and it's only 400k. This equates to one about every 2-3 games, which if you're a decent pilot or thrifty, doesn't make it too difficult to keep in the black. I have to agree that thanks to the 1.7 I have a dropship which is better and cost almost half the price I used to pay in 1.6. In fact, the price is not that unbalanced, the hull is very costly I agree with that, but I know a tanker in my corp who pay the same price (more or less 450.000 ISK) for his Madrugar. Because even with a cheaper hull, he has to fit proto modules and a proto turret. While I can use an advanced turret (I don't think a proto turret worth the cost) and proto modules. And remembrer that even with those damn militia rail-guns, we are a very useful tactical advantage for our squad and our team in general. We can do almost everything from extracting and cover infantry, to killing tower snipers and mountain tanks. Not an easy job in every game, especially when there is more than 2 rail-tanks, but it certainly worth the cost in the end. Good post and good points. I have a question for you then: is your friend in his 400k maddy just as afraid of mlt tankers as a DS is? I HAV, but only mlt, I don't know the proto tanker experience. I can't speak for him, but I don't think he is afraid, he simply like to do things and do them right. He began to use tanks a few month ago, and simply enjoy using them. From what I have saw as a tanker in learning, only militia railgun are dangerous for proto tanks. So, there is no need to be afraid of militia tanks when you have a proto tank, or even an advanced one. But remember that Murphy law exist and that New Eden is a ruthless universe. In the end, it is like proto dropsuit agains standard dropsuit. Everything can happen
Chris F2112 Pradox One Proficiency V. 533	Posted - 2014.01.22 21:33:00 - [14] - Quote Dropships are in a pretty good place right now. They are petty well balanced against everything but swarms and railguns. They are a pretty decent counter to tanks, especially if you have a gunner. The cost isn't too bad either, it's just the cost in relation to the price of tanks. Tanks need to double or triple in price and they'll be much better right away.
AP Grasshopper The Unit 514 158	Posted - 2014.01.22 21:40:00 - [15] - Quote Kharga Lum wrote: The Assault Dropship costs 3.3x more then a Gunnlogi/Madrugar. I'm talking base hull here. No mods. What's the logic behind this? Gunnlogi/Madrugar: 97,500 isk Python/Incubus: 322,995 isk These prices should be reversed. Compare a standard hull dropship to a standard hull HAV then tell me the final fitting cost of the two.... HAV's are more expensive then dropships of there own teir.

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