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Aizen Intiki
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.22 02:13:00 -
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Or whatever we call them. Why you ask? This is why. If you have no clue what I'm talking about, it's quite simple:
There's assholes in EVE that ganks people coming thorough gates (warp gates are how you get from system to system in EVE), then loots their ship of anything they have left (will get to that) in the cargo, and scraps from salvagig the hull itself. In hisec, normally, doing so would be illegal, and you would get insta-ganked by CONCORD, which is known as the Concorddoken by the capusleer community.
HOWEVER, there is a way around this, but with a slight risk: leave something in a jet can (a little cargo container that holds stuff when you chuck it out of your ship), and wait for it to be stolen, wait on the other side of the gate (all gates leading into the system if you can), then when the person goes to the otherside, gank them. How is this change CONCORD's mind about ganking you is what you're wondering now, isn't it? Well, when you steal **** in EVE, for 30 minutes, you are wanted and any capusleer can gank you no matter the security level of the system, so gate camps in Hisec become legal.
So, what are these risks? Well, there's only two, and both suck ass. The first one is simple, and this is if the GC works. IF you manage to kill the guy, then you get to loot him. BUT, since you blew the poor sod up,you also blew p some of the stuff in the cargo hold. This tatic usually works only on new guys (in Hisec anyways), so they don't have anything in their cargo in the first place. That means you're purposefully blowing up your own ****. Sucks to be you.
But even worse, what if someone like me comes along? Takes the stuff, and hides inside the sstem inside of a station, or even better, runs around the system for the 30 mins. you got to find him/her, adn failing to do so, at the last second, the person shows up, and is free to do whatever he/she wants. Basically, what I'm trying to say is, you lose your ****, and you can't get it back.
So, why would I want this to be in open world Dust? simple: free ISK for me, as I would jack the **** and drive of in a cloaked SLAV
Peace, AIzen
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Christiphoros von Poe
CONCORD Ground Ops.
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Posted - 2014.01.22 02:16:00 -
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That's sounds like a great experience for new players...
I fought at Caldari Prime
Closed Beta Vet
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Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.22 02:20:00 -
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would be nice to see a CRU with 100 dust clones in it inside one of those jet cans. they take it inside their ship and?..............TROJAN HORSE. Dustbunnies bust out, fight vs the ship defenses, work their way to the pilot, kill him and voila! free ship. |
Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
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Posted - 2014.01.22 02:22:00 -
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Gates in EVE are a funnel forcing players into a choke point to increase PVP.
Dust already has these choke points with CRUs, uplinks and objectives. Camping these is just like gate camping. |
Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.01.22 02:23:00 -
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I don't see any problems. Teach new peeps not to pick up other people's stuff from the streets.
Imagine this in IRL with garbage pickers :D
Under 28db
Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14)
I have a God, His name is Dakka.
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Aizen Intiki
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.22 02:31:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:I don't see any problems. Teach new peeps not to pick up other people's stuff from the streets.
Imagine this in IRL with garbage pickers :D
There is no problem with it; I was saying it would benefit me, and I can't wait.
"Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say
Alt of the great Godin
I like chocolate ^___^
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Aizen Intiki
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.22 02:33:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Gates in EVE are a funnel forcing players into a choke point to increase PVP.
Dust already has these choke points with CRUs, uplinks and objectives. Camping these is just like gate camping.
I don't think you got my point.
"Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say
Alt of the great Godin
I like chocolate ^___^
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Aizen Intiki
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.22 02:35:00 -
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Reiki Jubo wrote:would be nice to see a CRU with 100 dust clones in it inside one of those jet cans. they take it inside their ship and?..............TROJAN HORSE. Dustbunnies bust out, fight vs the ship defenses, work their way to the pilot, kill him and voila! free ship.
That.... that sir is a really good idea. Only problem is you could jet can the CRU, so you would have to be active clones inside of the CRU, and since there's no air in them, you would probably die. Also, the Cap could just not pick the CRU up.
"Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say
Alt of the great Godin
I like chocolate ^___^
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Aizen Intiki
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.22 02:37:00 -
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Christiphoros von Poe wrote:That's sounds like a great experience for new players...
Yes, it is actually. Teaches them that this cluster of stars is a *****, and you must pimp slap dat' ***** to survive.
"Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say
Alt of the great Godin
I like chocolate ^___^
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
2014
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Posted - 2014.01.22 02:37:00 -
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Never ganked or been ganked, but i would do it in Dust
Selling Templar BPO 250Mil
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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
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Posted - 2014.01.22 02:42:00 -
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If I ever play eve, I'll make sure that during my first trip into low-sec, my cargo will be completely filled with strippers and booze.
For those moments you know you're going to get ganked,
We used to have a time machine
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Aizen Intiki
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.22 02:52:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:If I ever play eve, I'll make sure that during my first trip into low-sec, my cargo will be completely filled with strippers and booze.
For those moments you know you're going to get ganked,
But..... that would kill like half the strippers, and those booze is probably gone.
"Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say
Alt of the great Godin
I like chocolate ^___^
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Namirial Kensai
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.22 03:14:00 -
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Reiki Jubo wrote:would be nice to see a CRU with 100 dust clones in it inside one of those jet cans. they take it inside their ship and?..............TROJAN HORSE. Dustbunnies bust out, fight vs the ship defenses, work their way to the pilot, kill him and voila! free ship. I'd like to see your ground troops bust through a shell thats not only in a completely sealed off section of the ship, capable of remotely venting plasma into the corridors, and can stand being hit by A (not an entire rack, but A [1]) 1400mm nuclear artillery shell. |
Dusters Blog
Galactic News Network
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Posted - 2014.01.22 03:22:00 -
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Namirial Kensai wrote:Reiki Jubo wrote:would be nice to see a CRU with 100 dust clones in it inside one of those jet cans. they take it inside their ship and?..............TROJAN HORSE. Dustbunnies bust out, fight vs the ship defenses, work their way to the pilot, kill him and voila! free ship. I'd like to see your ground troops bust through a shell thats not only in a completely sealed off section of the ship, capable of remotely venting plasma into the corridors, and can stand being hit by A (not an entire rack, but A [1]) 1400mm nuclear artillery shell.
ur no fun...i always see this from EVE players any time anyone mentions this but the old EP basically confirmed penetration style gameplay. isnt there any ship type or scenario where mercs could do a boarding party? |
fawkuima juggalo
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.01.22 03:35:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Or whatever we call them. Why you ask? This is why. If you have no clue what I'm talking about, it's quite simple: There's assholes in EVE that ganks people coming thorough gates (warp gates are how you get from system to system in EVE), then loots their ship of anything they have left (will get to that) in the cargo, and scraps from salvagig the hull itself. In hisec, normally, doing so would be illegal, and you would get insta-ganked by CONCORD, which is known as the Concorddoken by the capusleer community. HOWEVER, there is a way around this, but with a slight risk: leave something in a jet can (a little cargo container that holds stuff when you chuck it out of your ship), and wait for it to be stolen, wait on the other side of the gate (all gates leading into the system if you can), then when the person goes to the otherside, gank them. How is this change CONCORD's mind about ganking you is what you're wondering now, isn't it? Well, when you steal **** in EVE, for 30 minutes, you are wanted and any capusleer can gank you no matter the security level of the system, so gate camps in Hisec become legal. So, what are these risks? Well, there's only two, and both suck ass. The first one is simple, and this is if the GC works. IF you manage to kill the guy, then you get to loot him. BUT, since you blew the poor sod up,you also blew p some of the stuff in the cargo hold. This tatic usually works only on new guys (in Hisec anyways), so they don't have anything in their cargo in the first place. That means you're purposefully blowing up your own ****. Sucks to be you. But even worse, what if someone like me comes along? Takes the stuff, and hides inside the sstem inside of a station, or even better, runs around the system for the 30 mins. you got to find him/her, adn failing to do so, at the last second, the person shows up, and is free to do whatever he/she wants. Basically, what I'm trying to say is, you lose your ****, and you can't get it back. So, why would I want this to be in open world Dust? simple: free ISK for me, as I would jack the **** and drive of in a cloaked SLAV Peace, AIzen ok fun post and alll but.....
this has nothing to do with dust.
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itorca
The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.01.22 04:06:00 -
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What about a kind of star wars battlefront approach, with the drop ships landing on the vessel and drilling in or using electronic warfare to open the bay hatch? whats to say though the pilot does not self destruct and ejects his capsule? this type of warfare would not be to kill the pilot but to force the pilot to relinquish control, assets going to corps capsuleers, and dust mercs as materials of value . |
Aizen Intiki
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.22 04:06:00 -
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Dusters Blog wrote:Namirial Kensai wrote:Reiki Jubo wrote:would be nice to see a CRU with 100 dust clones in it inside one of those jet cans. they take it inside their ship and?..............TROJAN HORSE. Dustbunnies bust out, fight vs the ship defenses, work their way to the pilot, kill him and voila! free ship. I'd like to see your ground troops bust through a shell thats not only in a completely sealed off section of the ship, capable of remotely venting plasma into the corridors, and can stand being hit by A (not an entire rack, but A [1]) 1400mm nuclear artillery shell. ur no fun...i always see this from EVE players any time anyone mentions this but the old EP basically confirmed penetration style gameplay. isnt there any ship type or scenario where mercs could do a boarding party?
Actually, yes. most ships have their pods not sealed off as he says. It is very reachable, and very easily reachable. also, if you do reach the Cap, the pod will kill the clone so no tampering can occur.
"Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say
Alt of the great Godin
I like chocolate ^___^
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