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Noremac Nagaho
Red Hand Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.01.19 11:07:00 -
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If you want an amazing glass cannon in 1.8, try out the Caldari Sentinel with a Six Kin Burst HMG.
If my math is correct it will do 1,065 damage each burst. (IF everything hits)
Just imagine: A tanked assault or logi with ~900 hp pops through the doorway you're camping *BRRR!!* +50
~~~~~~~~~The Math~~~~~~~~~
LV 5 Prof + 4 Complex Damage Mods = ~49.4% damage bonus
Six Kin does 15.84 x (45 rounds/burst) = 712.8 damage per burst
712.8 x 149.4% = 1,064.9 damage per burst
~~~~~~~~~More Math~~~~~~~~
Burst HMG fires 45 rounds at 4615.38 RPM = each burst lasts 0.58 seconds (with a 1/2 second pause in between)
You will be firing at a grand total of 1836 DPS during each burst (1065 damage each burst / .58 seconds to fire 1 burst) |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
4066
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Posted - 2014.01.19 11:08:00 -
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as a scout this bothers me non.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5413
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Posted - 2014.01.19 11:11:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:as a scout this bothers me non.
One of the nice things about scouts, you are dead in under a second no matter what type of DPS the enemy is dishing out 
Glass cannon heavies don't really kill scouts much faster, they just get killed by scouts faster.
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Noremac Nagaho
Red Hand Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.01.19 11:14:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:as a scout this bothers me non.
Lol you would instantly die even if 75% of the bullets magically missed.
Shooting a scout with this is like swatting a fly with a sledge hammer. |
Turtle Hermit Roshi
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.01.19 11:17:00 -
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Noremac Nagaho wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:as a scout this bothers me non. Lol you would instantly die even if 75% of the bullets magically missed. Shooting a scout with this is like swatting a fly with a sledge hammer.
have you ever tried hitting a fly with a sledgehammer i assure you its not as easy as killing a scout
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2014.01.19 11:18:00 -
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Noremac Nagaho wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:as a scout this bothers me non. Lol you would instantly die even if 75% of the bullets magically missed. Shooting a scout with this is like swatting a fly with a sledge hammer.
actually......you wouldn't hit the fly |
Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
172
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Posted - 2014.01.19 11:21:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Meee one is smexy One of the nice things about scouts, you are dead in under a second no matter what type of DPS the enemy is dishing out
LAWL!
Sexy jutsu
Time to jaaam!
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
995
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Posted - 2014.01.19 11:21:00 -
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You forgot to mention that the burst goes through ammo at an obscene rate. And very long reloads are quits frequent.
I hate the burst.
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Noremac Nagaho
Red Hand Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.01.19 11:22:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Noremac Nagaho wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:as a scout this bothers me non. Lol you would instantly die even if 75% of the bullets magically missed. Shooting a scout with this is like swatting a fly with a sledge hammer. actually......you wouldn't hit the fly
Well honestly a scout would be tricky to hit with this to....
This may be a rare case were speed tanking may trump brick tanking. |
Noremac Nagaho
Red Hand Syndicate
4
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Posted - 2014.01.19 11:26:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:You forgot to mention that the burst goes through ammo at an obscene rate. And very long reloads are quits frequent.
I hate the burst.
Hence the glass cannon:
PRO:
+ King of damage output in tight corridors
CONS:
- Burns through ammo
- Overheats quickly
- Reload takes forever
- Below average HP for a heavy
- Flux gernades |
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
229
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Posted - 2014.01.19 11:26:00 -
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lol
5-6 sec to take out a tank
I like =ƒæì
War never changes
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
2092
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Posted - 2014.01.19 11:50:00 -
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More then 3 damage mods are a waste of PG+CPU. Use shield extenders to enhance your HP. And you forget that the HMG has alot of spread which is good for close quarters but bad in conserving ammo. You will probs miss somewhere between 15-25% of your shots. And you are better off with a regular HMG cause you deal more damage per bullet and its better against people who are strafing. Another downside is facing multiple people with a burst HMG
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
573
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Posted - 2014.01.19 12:02:00 -
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I'd be interested in seeing what damage a Caldari Sentinel would do with a Breach Forge gun
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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Noremac Nagaho
Red Hand Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.01.19 12:04:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:More then 3 damage mods are a waste of PG+CPU. Use shield extenders to enhance your HP. And you forget that the HMG has alot of spread which is good for close quarters but bad in conserving ammo. You will probs miss somewhere between 15-25% of your shots. And you are better off with a regular HMG cause you deal more damage per bullet and its better against people who are strafing. Another downside is facing multiple people with a burst HMG
Thats all true, however this fitting is for squeezing out the craziest damage possible.
The only viable use for this specialized fitting would be to camp entrances and blap reds as they come in.
The goal here is to kill the opponent 1 on 1 before they have a chance to fire back, if that fails, you'r in trouble. |
NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2014.01.19 12:05:00 -
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Spademan wrote:I'd be interested in seeing what damage a Caldari Sentinel would do with a Breach Forge gun
inb4breachgetsabuffandnerf |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1606
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Posted - 2014.01.19 12:52:00 -
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Unless something had changed with damage modifiers 4 damage mods would give 29.96%.
Armor and Shields are not the same!
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Yoma Carrim
Situation Normal all fraked up
266
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Posted - 2014.01.19 13:11:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Unless something had changed with damage modifiers 4 damage mods would give 29.96%.
Note he said proficeny LVL5 as well. That would still only bring it up to 44.96 not the 49.4 he posted in the OP (if my math is correct that is xD)
When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck
Logi, Tanker, Heavy
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Noremac Nagaho
Red Hand Syndicate
6
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Posted - 2014.01.19 13:11:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Unless something had changed with damage modifiers 4 damage mods would give 29.96%.
I added in HMG proficiency 5 (which is 15%)
If 29.96% is the correct value for 4 Complex Heavy Damage modifiers the total comes to +44.96%
I'll redo the calculations...
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
555
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Posted - 2014.01.19 13:29:00 -
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Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote:Noremac Nagaho wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:as a scout this bothers me non. Lol you would instantly die even if 75% of the bullets magically missed. Shooting a scout with this is like swatting a fly with a sledge hammer. have you ever tried hitting a fly with a sledgehammer i assure you its not as easy as killing a scout
What? That analogy doesn't make sense
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
4067
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Posted - 2014.01.19 13:31:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote:Noremac Nagaho wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:as a scout this bothers me non. Lol you would instantly die even if 75% of the bullets magically missed. Shooting a scout with this is like swatting a fly with a sledge hammer. have you ever tried hitting a fly with a sledgehammer i assure you its not as easy as killing a scout What? That analogy doesn't make sense
It's overkill, you don't need a weapon that devastating for the job.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Big Popa Smurff
The Rainbow Effect
924
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Posted - 2014.01.19 13:52:00 -
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does this 44.96% damage bonus include the stacking penalty with damage mods?
Original AFK Hunter
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2027
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Posted - 2014.01.19 13:54:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:as a scout this bothers me non. One of the nice things about scouts, you are dead in under a second no matter what type of DPS the enemy is dishing out Glass cannon heavies don't really kill scouts much faster, they just get killed by scouts faster.
This is true.
And with bullet magnetism, you can guarantee that all those rounds will hit.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Noremac Nagaho
Red Hand Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.01.19 14:04:00 -
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Big Popa Smurff wrote:does this 44.96% damage bonus include the stacking penalty with damage mods?
Yes. 4 complex damage mods with stacking penalties is 29.96% (then add 15% from proficiency 5) |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1498
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Posted - 2014.01.19 14:09:00 -
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4 Damage Mods is (approx) 29.9%, then add in Prof 5 and you get about 49% total.
Why 49%? Because it's 1.15 (Prof 5) * 1.299 (Damage Mods) and not 15+29.9.
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Sky Kage
Immortal Guides
631
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Posted - 2014.01.19 14:15:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Noremac Nagaho wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:as a scout this bothers me non. Lol you would instantly die even if 75% of the bullets magically missed. Shooting a scout with this is like swatting a fly with a sledge hammer. actually......you wouldn't hit the fly
The burst of air coming from the path of the sledge hammer would push the "Fly" out of the sledge hammer's direct impact.
I wish scouts worked like that.... 
I die alot AND have fun... Who knew?
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