DUST Search - Mining

Maken Tosch wrote:

Ulysses Knapse wrote:

Denn Maell wrote:

The materials harvested from Planetary Interaction are very different from mining asteroids. If CCP ever decides to let Dust compete with Eve over these resources (which are required for many more sophisticated item creation) things will be quite interesting indeed. Twisted

I disagree. Commodities produced by capsuleer colonies are rather niche in usage, mostly used for starbase construction and fueling. Having unique resources was pretty much required as otherwise planetary interaction would simply become a steady stream of resources that are already easy to acquire in EVE.

Mining on planetary districts, which would be done by Dust 514 mercenaries rather than EVE capsuleers, should be for the procurement of tritmega minerals and lunic materials, as these resources are standard for most production in New Eden.

I don't think PI materials are that much of a niche group. Remember, they are the ONLY source of materials available for the production and maintenance of POSes (player-owned structures). This means that their demand is a bit high. There is also the recent change made to high-sec Customs Offices in which they are now destructible and can now be replaced by player-owned customs offices (POCOs). This means higher taxes set by their owners against anyone who harvests materials on those planets that are affected and consequently higher prices. The change is pretty recent so don't expect their impact to be noticed until after a while as more and more POCOs are established throughout high-sec.

PI can also be used as a means of introducing a new level of gameplay in both Dust and Eve. Think about it. Imagine Eve players contracting Dust players to attack other colonies. Suddenly a new market is born.

The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.

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Squagga The State Protectorate 4	Posted - 2014.01.19 02:30:00 - [1] - Quote I understand that your jobs are very difficult and it's close to impossible to get anything right the first time. Also you're trying to get so many things sorted to make the game work, especially with trying to combine it with EVE. However with that last thought in mind. Why dont get any of the ores or minerals or whatever EVE players are constantly fighting for, Isn't that what's on these planets? Isn't that what we're fighting over? It can't just to be hold planets with no monetary value, could it? So I think that, sometime down to the future, we should get some of these ores or veldspars or whatevers. To use to sell or trade or even build! Reloading, the silent killer.
Banjo Robertson Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 44	Posted - 2014.01.19 02:32:00 - [2] - Quote I agree, there needs to be more of a 'market' for dust players. We need more things to do. I want to participate in an interactive world, not just shoot people in the face all day.
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 80	Posted - 2014.01.19 02:34:00 - [3] - Quote The materials harvested from Planetary Interaction are very different from mining asteroids. If CCP ever decides to let Dust compete with Eve over these resources (which are required for many more sophisticated item creation) things will be quite interesting indeed. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
Squagga The State Protectorate 4	Posted - 2014.01.19 02:45:00 - [4] - Quote Yes I want a more interactive world. I always have. Made a eight page thread about WiS a year or so ago. Trying to get more out of the game. Obviously that didn't see fruition. If we don't get more options out of this game other than different ways to kill, don't get me wrong I love killin you guys, then the game will die. People will find other avenues that do have more options. I don't want the game to die. I don't mean to disagree with you, but we aren't supposed to be competing with EVE. We're supposed to be working with them and well .. some of us, myself included, need to learn from them. In this New Eden. Reloading, the silent killer.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 1082	Posted - 2014.01.19 05:28:00 - [5] - Quote Denn Maell wrote: The materials harvested from Planetary Interaction are very different from mining asteroids. If CCP ever decides to let Dust compete with Eve over these resources (which are required for many more sophisticated item creation) things will be quite interesting indeed. I disagree. Commodities produced by capsuleer colonies are rather niche in usage, mostly used for starbase construction and fueling. Having unique resources was pretty much required as otherwise planetary interaction would simply become a steady stream of resources that are already easy to acquire in EVE. Mining on planetary districts, which would be done by Dust 514 mercenaries rather than EVE capsuleers, should be for the procurement of tritmega minerals and lunic materials, as these resources are standard for most production in New Eden. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage is more lethal.
Squagga The State Protectorate 27	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:45:00 - [6] - Quote Bumping for greater justice Reloading, the silent killer.
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6508	Posted - 2014.01.20 04:36:00 - [7] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Denn Maell wrote: The materials harvested from Planetary Interaction are very different from mining asteroids. If CCP ever decides to let Dust compete with Eve over these resources (which are required for many more sophisticated item creation) things will be quite interesting indeed. I disagree. Commodities produced by capsuleer colonies are rather niche in usage, mostly used for starbase construction and fueling. Having unique resources was pretty much required as otherwise planetary interaction would simply become a steady stream of resources that are already easy to acquire in EVE. Mining on planetary districts, which would be done by Dust 514 mercenaries rather than EVE capsuleers, should be for the procurement of tritmega minerals and lunic materials, as these resources are standard for most production in New Eden. I don't think PI materials are that much of a niche group. Remember, they are the ONLY source of materials available for the production and maintenance of POSes (player-owned structures). This means that their demand is a bit high. There is also the recent change made to high-sec Customs Offices in which they are now destructible and can now be replaced by player-owned customs offices (POCOs). This means higher taxes set by their owners against anyone who harvests materials on those planets that are affected and consequently higher prices. The change is pretty recent so don't expect their impact to be noticed until after a while as more and more POCOs are established throughout high-sec. PI can also be used as a means of introducing a new level of gameplay in both Dust and Eve. Think about it. Imagine Eve players contracting Dust players to attack other colonies. Suddenly a new market is born. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 87	Posted - 2014.01.20 04:51:00 - [8] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: Denn Maell wrote: The materials harvested from Planetary Interaction are very different from mining asteroids. If CCP ever decides to let Dust compete with Eve over these resources (which are required for many more sophisticated item creation) things will be quite interesting indeed. I disagree. Commodities produced by capsuleer colonies are rather niche in usage, mostly used for starbase construction and fueling. Having unique resources was pretty much required as otherwise planetary interaction would simply become a steady stream of resources that are already easy to acquire in EVE. Mining on planetary districts, which would be done by Dust 514 mercenaries rather than EVE capsuleers, should be for the procurement of tritmega minerals and lunic materials, as these resources are standard for most production in New Eden. I don't think PI materials are that much of a niche group. Remember, they are the ONLY source of materials available for the production and maintenance of POSes (player-owned structures). This means that their demand is a bit high. There is also the recent change made to high-sec Customs Offices in which they are now destructible and can now be replaced by player-owned customs offices (POCOs). This means higher taxes set by their owners against anyone who harvests materials on those planets that are affected and consequently higher prices. The change is pretty recent so don't expect their impact to be noticed until after a while as more and more POCOs are established throughout high-sec. PI can also be used as a means of introducing a new level of gameplay in both Dust and Eve. Think about it. Imagine Eve players contracting Dust players to attack other colonies. Suddenly a new market is born. Suddenly Planetary Interaction goes from being the thing to do if you want to seriously contend in a FPS Arena to a whole other strategic meta game. And the outcomes of these matches will be of interest to both Dust and Eve. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
Lonegnr Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 53	Posted - 2014.01.20 05:01:00 - [9] - Quote Squagga wrote: It can't just to be hold planets with no monetary value, could it? Actually as it currently stands you're fighting for district control on planets located in buffer zones between empires. Although holding the planet does benefit factions, resource-wise the planets seem to be of low/no value.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 1087	Posted - 2014.01.20 05:35:00 - [10] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I don't think PI materials are that much of a niche group. Remember, they are the ONLY source of materials available for the production and maintenance of POSes (player-owned structures). This means that their demand is a bit high. As a capsuleer of three and a half years, I'm calling your bluff. Planetary Commodities: -Starbase Components -Mobile Structures -Starbase Fuel -Limited T2 Production -Nanite Repair Paste *Tritmega Minerals:* -Starbase Components -Mobile Structures -Station Components -All Ships (T1, T2, T3 and Faction) -All Modules (T1, T2, T3 and Faction) -Almost Everything Else Compared to tritmega minerals, planetary commodities are niche. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage is more lethal.

Draco Cerberus BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 701	Posted - 2014.01.20 06:12:00 - [11] - Quote Mining on planets was outlawed by the Yulai Accord due to careless destruction. We cannot stand for this type of behavior. Learn your history and know that all 4 empires would come and crush us if we tried this. In addition to this do you not realize the untold wealth of minerals in space. What we could mine from planets would be but a pittance in comparison to what a miner in a Hulk could do in but a day in an asteroid belt. If you are so determined to take up mining go, find a capsule and take to the stars. LogiGod earns his pips
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6512	Posted - 2014.01.20 19:04:00 - [12] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I don't think PI materials are that much of a niche group. Remember, they are the ONLY source of materials available for the production and maintenance of POSes (player-owned structures). This means that their demand is a bit high. As a capsuleer of three and a half years, I'm calling your bluff. Planetary Commodities: -Starbase Components -Mobile Structures -Starbase Fuel -Limited T2 Production -Nanite Repair Paste *Tritmega Minerals:* -Starbase Components -Mobile Structures -Station Components -All Ships (T1, T2, T3 and Faction) -All Modules (T1, T2, T3 and Faction) -Almost Everything Else Compared to tritmega minerals, planetary commodities are niche. Dude, have you even looked at the control tower blueprints? I have produced control towers before and every time I tried looking for alternative sources of materials, the planets were the only sources available. POS fuels do have some components that don't require planetary sources like the stuff minded from ice belts, but a part of it does require planetary sources such as mechanical parts to name one example. Again, I have experimented with this stuff before. Also, I'm an Eve player since 2008. A few more years than you. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Squagga The State Protectorate 32	Posted - 2014.01.22 04:11:00 - [13] - Quote Your support in this matter actually means quite a bit to me Maken Tosch. We don't know eachother very well but I do know that you're a seasoned EVE and DUST player. I really would like to get more going with this game. What we have is good but it's just not enough to keep peoples interest other than shooting eachother over and over again Reloading, the silent killer.


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