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Dericha
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Posted - 2014.01.18 19:42:00 -
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I know you (CCP) have reduced the strafe speed from a flat run and I thank you for that. At the same time, standing in open space and strafing back and forth (jiggling) is still a hallmark of Dust play. My thought to reduce the CODness of the game and encourage more tactical play is to make the first few steps of strafe slower than max speed. This better mirrors real life, still allows players to make a sideways move to change position, and encourages players to think about their positioning. Winning a gun fight would be more about who got the jump on who and who had overing positions than who is better at strafe firing. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.01.18 19:46:00 -
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I see no problems with strafing. Furthermore, strafing is completly unviable in COD because of the extremely low TTK, so I don't understand your comment about "CODness".
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2014.01.18 19:52:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I see no problems with strafing. Furthermore, strafing is completly unviable in COD because of the extremely low TTK, so I don't understand your comment about "CODness".
Some Minmatarr / Calda strafe too fast. It creates frames of invicibilty. (I'm a really good shooter i didn't miss them.)
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Dericha
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:04:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I see no problems with strafing. Furthermore, strafing is completly unviable in COD because of the extremely low TTK, so I don't understand your comment about "CODness".
COD as the poster child for stereotypical FPS individual game play based on kills. Or if you prefer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHv8rfVy35g @5:30. |
Maitue Mae
Vortex State Empire Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:07:00 -
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This strafing 'issue' is just speed tanking. It is meant to be this way. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:12:00 -
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Dericha wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I see no problems with strafing. Furthermore, strafing is completly unviable in COD because of the extremely low TTK, so I don't understand your comment about "CODness". COD as the poster child for stereotypical FPS individual game play based on kills. Or if you prefer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHv8rfVy35g @5:30. How would nerfing strafe make things less kill-based, or less individual-based? it would just make the guy with the better dropsuit and better gun even more likely to get the kill.
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Dericha
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:17:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:This strafing 'issue' is just speed tanking. It is meant to be this way.
In EVE speed tanking makes sense and is able to be countered by tracking speed increases or webs. It doesn't take away from strategic game play. In Dust, unlike many other FPS, strategic game play is a part of the game and I think jiggling takes away from that, which is why I am opposed to it. |
Dericha
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:22:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:[quote=Dericha][quote=KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf] How would nerfing strafe make things less kill-based, or less individual-based? it would just make the guy with the better dropsuit and better gun even more likely to get the kill.
One-on-one, absolutely. And because of that, individuals would be forced to work together to take down tougher targets. So flanking and angles become more important. You're using quick-twitch skills as a gear equalizer and I think team play should be that equalizer. I find it more in keeping with the trajectory of Dust' squad-based play. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:31:00 -
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Dericha wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:[quote=Dericha][quote=KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf] How would nerfing strafe make things less kill-based, or less individual-based? it would just make the guy with the better dropsuit and better gun even more likely to get the kill. One-on-one, absolutely. And because of that, individuals would be forced to work together to take down tougher targets. So flanking and angles become more important. You're using quick-twitch skills as a gear equalizer and I think team play should be that equalizer. I find it more in keeping with the trajectory of Dust' squad-based play. Flanking and group attacks are already more effective than one individual strafing. I still don't see how any changes are needed.
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