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Baal Omniscient
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Posted - 2014.01.18 11:27:00 -
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What would the Minmatar racial variant of the LR be? Obviously it couldn't be laser based, but it would have to be at it's most effective at a distance to keep within the parameters of the LR. So I thought..... Acid hose? If you hit someone too close to yourself, you catch splash and that makes it at it's best at range. It would also make it have persistent damage though, and would be extremely hard to balance out with resistances and whatnot.... so then I thought.... Flame thrower? Make it a super narrow stream of fire that does little damage at close range, then about 20-30m out have it become something of an AOE cloud about the size of an assault MD blast where it does the most damage (not much damage mind you, but constant damage for as long as you are within the cloud). It obscures your vision and does constant damage (20hp/sec?), making it a spectacular short/mid range suppression/support weapon.
What do you think the LR racial variants for the different races should be?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2014.01.18 11:28:00 -
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Precision rifle, maybe?
I guess I've always wanted to think of the LR as a sniper. It's also the only way it'd be viable in its current state tbh, though I'd like to see what the devs plan for it in the apparently planned hotfix.
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Baal Omniscient
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Posted - 2014.01.18 11:35:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Precision rifle, maybe?
I guess I've always wanted to think of the LR as a sniper. It's also the only way it'd be viable in its current state tbh, though I'd like to see what the devs plan for it in the apparently planned hotfix. Well, in the past I've always seen the LR as a great, though extremely situational, gank machine. Back in Chromosome you could melt a brick tanked heavy in 3 seconds with a prof. 5 Viziam and 3 damage mods, and you could do so at HUGE ranges once your sharpshooter was leveled up. I remember many hilarious matches with an A-Series assault suit sitting on a spire with an LR in the old ambush bowl map
I'm very interested to see where they take the LR with that hotfix as well, hopefully it doesn't reach Chromo levels, but it would be great to see them be viable again.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2014.01.18 11:40:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Precision rifle, maybe?
I guess I've always wanted to think of the LR as a sniper. It's also the only way it'd be viable in its current state tbh, though I'd like to see what the devs plan for it in the apparently planned hotfix. Well, in the past I've always seen the LR as a great, though extremely situational, gank machine. Back in Chromosome you could melt a brick tanked heavy in 3 seconds with a prof. 5 Viziam and 3 damage mods, and you could do so at HUGE ranges once your sharpshooter was leveled up. I remember many hilarious matches with an A-Series assault suit sitting on a spire with an LR in the old ambush bowl map I'm very interested to see where they take the LR with that hotfix as well, hopefully it doesn't reach Chromo levels, but it would be great to see them be viable again.
I always ran an A-series with an LR in Chrome.
I don't think the LR can fulfill that role anymore - the SCR does the same thing. I think it would be better for it to move out to a longer range, but that's probably just personal preference.
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.18 11:43:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:What would the Minmatar racial variant of the LR be? Obviously it couldn't be laser based, but it would have to be at it's most effective at a distance to keep within the parameters of the LR. So I thought..... Acid hose? If you hit someone too close to yourself, you catch splash and that makes it at it's best at range. It would also make it have persistent damage though, and would be extremely hard to balance out with resistances and whatnot.... so then I thought.... Flame thrower? Make it a super narrow stream of fire that does little damage at close range, then about 20-30m out have it become something of an AOE cloud about the size of an assault MD blast where it does the most damage (not much damage mind you, but constant damage for as long as you are within the cloud). No persistent damage, since I've yet to see anything on a dropsuit that looks the least bit flammable. It obscures your vision and does constant damage (20hp/sec?), making it a spectacular short/mid range suppression/support weapon. What do you think the LR racial variants for the different races should be?
You wont have a LR variant. Like the LR is a unique Amarrian weapon, no doubt the Minmatar will have their own unique weapon to fit an aspect of their own racial combat doctrine......oh wait they do its called the Mass Driver.
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Posted - 2014.01.18 11:48:00 -
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Caldari long-range rifle: Sniper Rifle Amarr long-range rifle: Laser Rifle Minmatar long-range rifle: Precision Rifle Gallente long-range rifle: ???
Each race will eventually have their own version of each type of weapon. For instance we're still missing Minmatar and Amarr light AV, Gallente and Amarr heavy weapons, Amarr and Caldari CQC light weapons, etc. The 3 new sidearms coming soon will give each race a pistol, and give us another racial SMG. But eventually you'll be able to play any role using weapons from only one race.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.01.18 11:58:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Caldari long-range rifle: Sniper Rifle Amarr long-range rifle: Laser Rifle Minmatar long-range rifle: Precision Rifle Gallente long-range rifle: ???
Each race will eventually have their own version of each type of weapon. For instance we're still missing Minmatar and Amarr light AV, Gallente and Amarr heavy weapons, Amarr and Caldari CQC light weapons, etc. The 3 new sidearms coming soon will give each race a pistol, and give us another racial SMG. But eventually you'll be able to play any role using weapons from only one race.
Why are you assuming the Laser is the Amarrian sniper rifle? Its not and doesn't function in a nearly effective manner enough to ever fulfil that hyper long range precision role like the current sniper rifle can.
Assuming the Scrambler Rifle is capable of projecting its pulse lasers out to 70m+ I don't see why there won't one day be a Focus Pulse Laser of single shot beam rifle.
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Posted - 2014.01.18 12:40:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: Why are you assuming the Laser is the Amarrian sniper rifle? Its not and doesn't function in a nearly effective manner enough to ever fulfil that hyper long range precision role like the current sniper rifle can.
lol
I never assumed anything, I just stated that it is the Amarr long-range rifle. The idea behind the long-range rifles is that they are not at all effective at close/medium range, and are incredibly pinpoint accurate. I am in no way saying that the laser rifle is anywhere close to a sniper, and I sure hope that the precision rifle isn't just projectile version of the current rail sniper.
That said, I'd rather see a variant of the laser rifle be what you were describing instead of creating an entirely new weapon for it. Same thing for the other two long-range rifles.
CCP did this with the Assault Rifle and made Assault variants of every other rifle. If you want an automatic rifle, but want it to shoot lasers instead of plasma bolts, then you can use the Assault Scrambler Rifle. It fits CCP's design scheme better if there were sniper variants of the long-range rifles, that's all.
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BL4CKST4R
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Posted - 2014.01.18 13:31:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:What would the Minmatar racial variant of the LR be? Obviously it couldn't be laser based, but it would have to be at it's most effective at a distance to keep within the parameters of the LR. So I thought..... Acid hose? If you hit someone too close to yourself, you catch splash and that makes it at it's best at range. It would also make it have persistent damage though, and would be extremely hard to balance out with resistances and whatnot.... so then I thought.... Flame thrower? Make it a super narrow stream of fire that does little damage at close range, then about 20-30m out have it become something of an AOE cloud about the size of an assault MD blast where it does the most damage (not much damage mind you, but constant damage for as long as you are within the cloud). No persistent damage, since I've yet to see anything on a dropsuit that looks the least bit flammable. It obscures your vision and does constant damage (20hp/sec?), making it a spectacular short/mid range suppression/support weapon. What do you think the LR racial variants for the different races should be?
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