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Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:03:00 -
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please dont forget to reslot and do a pass over on the longtime weapons to make sure they are operating as intended. Pokey Dravon made some really good suggestions about how to differentiate the 4 races.
Gallente weapons are obsolete if they are designed for close range. they should have high ammo counts, great hipfire, high ROF, fast ADS on iron sights, high damage and faster base reload speed.
Amarr weapons should be 2nd in range behind the Caldari. This means the LR (the Amarr sniper) should outrange everything but the caldari sniper. this includes the gallente tac ar, the caldari RR and the scrambler rifle. make sense that it should be able to hit targets at 150m.
the Minmatar weapons seem like they would be in the middle (but higher ROF sort of makes sense if they do less damage than the Gal wpns)with medium range, avg ADS speed and avg hipfire.
In that same sense the Amarr/Caldari weapons should have slower ADS, bad hipfire (terrible for the caldari) and slower base reload speed. The caldari RR could probably use a longer charge time as its 2 effective in CQC right now. separating the weapons has to be tough but if its done right it mirrors the lore and lets people choose the one that best suits their style of play. |
Tyjus Vacca
Valor Coalition
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:13:00 -
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totally agree with this +1. |
Iago Templar
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:18:00 -
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The Laser Rifle may be getting a hotfix next week according to this dev reply
So one guesses that they may be looking at rebalancing other stuff over a bit of time to bring them into line with the new weapons. |
Dusters Blog
Galactic News Network
561
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:18:00 -
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PD has some very good ideas on mechanics to use as separators. +1 |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:21:00 -
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/me hugs his Assault Rifle
Don't worry buddy, I won't leave you, the other rifles are tempting but you're still Gallente 
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Tolen Rosas
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
291
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:21:00 -
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this makes sense. Do can a dev confirm that the Tac AR is the gallente version of the sniper? |
Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
212
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:48:00 -
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slotting the old Gallente and Amarr weapons is super important. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1578
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:50:00 -
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I support this message 
EDIT: I'd like to point out that in my suggestions I'm talking VERY slight changes, nothing big. I have no way to test this obviously so I can't give exact numbers, and I understand that balancing these weapons between one another is going to be VERY delicate process.
1.8 Analysis - Sentinel Damage Efficiency Calcs
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DustMercsBlog
Galactic News Network
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:24:00 -
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+1 |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:28:00 -
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I'm fine with this it every happens. But that plasma rifle still needs to kick like a Ascr.
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
212
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:28:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:I'm fine with this if it every happens. But that plasma rifle still needs to kick like an Ascr.
why wouldnt recoil be average? hipfire should be really good tho. |
Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
399
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:36:00 -
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Tolen Rosas wrote:this makes sense. Do can a dev confirm that the Tac AR is the gallente version of the sniper?
The TAR is a gallente knockoff of the Scrambler rifle, so no, it shouldn't be approaching anything we'd consider "sniper" range.
Honestly, since blasters are the short ranged version of hybrids and rails are the long range, we already have what the Gallente would use as the sniper rifle: The Sniper Rifle.
Maybe CCP could just throw in/change some of the variants to be made by Gallente companies, like Duvolle or Allotek.
Amarr HAV Speculation
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
7938
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:38:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Tolen Rosas wrote:this makes sense. Do can a dev confirm that the Tac AR is the gallente version of the sniper? The TAR is a gallente knockoff of the Scrambler rifle, so no, it shouldn't be approaching anything we'd consider "sniper" range.
By this argument, the assault variants of the rail rifle, scrambler rifle, and combat rifle should be terrible.
They're not though. In fact, some are better.
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Dunce Masterson
Savage Bullet
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:40:00 -
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ill agree with every thing but bad hip fire from the laser weapons because they are lasers and have no recoil and the amarr weapons ads is fine where its at. |
Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
400
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:44:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Arx Ardashir wrote:Tolen Rosas wrote:this makes sense. Do can a dev confirm that the Tac AR is the gallente version of the sniper? The TAR is a gallente knockoff of the Scrambler rifle, so no, it shouldn't be approaching anything we'd consider "sniper" range. By this argument, the assault variants of the rail rifle, scrambler rifle, and combat rifle should be terrible. They're not though. In fact, some are better.
Yes, they should.
Amarr HAV Speculation
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
7939
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:47:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Arx Ardashir wrote:Tolen Rosas wrote:this makes sense. Do can a dev confirm that the Tac AR is the gallente version of the sniper? The TAR is a gallente knockoff of the Scrambler rifle, so no, it shouldn't be approaching anything we'd consider "sniper" range. By this argument, the assault variants of the rail rifle, scrambler rifle, and combat rifle should be terrible. They're not though. In fact, some are better. Yes, they should.
Huh.
I wasn't quite expecting you to agree there. 
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
3600
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Posted - 2014.01.18 01:05:00 -
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Realistically, I think the laser rifle should be thought of as its own class of weapon.
Or CCP needs to put a damn scope on it; either way.
Amarr dropsuits may be incredibly stupid, but I really like their weapons.
We used to have a time machine
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5360
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Posted - 2014.01.18 01:07:00 -
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I'm not sure the laser rifle was ever designed to be the Amarr sniper rifle, if it were then why did it ever have iron sights and why does it currently have a reflex sight? Definitely needs more range, but not anywhere near sniper rifle range. Their will probably be a new weapon that will act as the Amarr sniper later down the road.
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
400
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Posted - 2014.01.18 01:08:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Huh. I wasn't quite expecting you to agree there.
I think that they should have their damage profile and some semblance of their range (but shorter than their "standard" versions) but other than that be inferior to the GAR.
Amarr HAV Speculation
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