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P14GU3
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:56:00 -
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but we cant pop one solo with a full mag from swarms? and tankers say we shouldn't be able to? |
Earl E Bird
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:33:00 -
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If i can keep up with the tank, and not get blapped by infantry in the process, then a full mag of proto swarms with prof and dmg mods takes down just about all tanks
But again, its not always as easy as unloading a full clip with so much chaos going on around
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
470
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:40:00 -
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Earl E Bird wrote:If i can keep up with the tank, and not get blapped by infantry in the process, then a full mag of proto swarms with prof and dmg mods takes down just about all tanks
But again, its not always as easy as unloading a full clip with so much chaos going on around
You would need at least prof 4 or 5 (coupled with at least two dmg mods) to achieve that or the help of AV nades... I have tested prof 3 with two complex damage mods on a proto swarm vs an unhardened soma and it was not enough damage to kill the soma in one clip... |
Earl E Bird
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:51:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Earl E Bird wrote:If i can keep up with the tank, and not get blapped by infantry in the process, then a full mag of proto swarms with prof and dmg mods takes down just about all tanks
But again, its not always as easy as unloading a full clip with so much chaos going on around
You would need at least prof 4 or 5 (coupled with at least two dmg mods) to achieve that or the help of AV nades... I have tested prof 3 with two complex damage mods on a proto swarm vs an unhardened soma and it was not enough damage to kill the soma in one clip...
yeah i meant mag not clip
I use two complex dmg mods with prof only at 2, and again, 99% of tanks that i "can" get the full mag out on, die, also, i have + 2 on the mag size also, so i got a extra two vollys
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Leonid Tybalt
Dark Knightz Corp.
160
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:51:00 -
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Correction: one man, one rocket propelled grenade, one dead SOVIET and STATIONARY tank.
The T-72 is a typical obsolete ****-tank (which is why the video depicts some of the Assad regimes forces).
Drawing a comparison between sci-fi tech tanks in dust and that heap of junk is like comparing a T-Ford with a modern Ferrari.
The tanks in dust would more be like a Leopard 2 on steroids with shield projection technology to boot. There's just no comparing it with a T-72. -.- |
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
474
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:12:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote: here but we cant pop one solo with a full mag from swarms? and tankers say we shouldn't be able to? Why can't the warbarge just precision strike all our enemies? Why can't the nanites that destroy our bodies after we die be weaponized against our enemies? Why do weapons have such short ranges? Why are we putting boots on the ground to do what artillery, airstrikes, and space strikes can do better?
If you try to balance things based on how modern day technology works it doesn't make sense and won't be any fun. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1576
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:16:00 -
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We run around in Iron Man suits.
Please continue to make real world references.
1.8 Analysis - Sentinel Damage Efficiency Calcs
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HiddenBrother
Days of Ruin
32
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:17:00 -
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It's very much possible to take out a tank with proto swarms, but the weapon is now mainly used as a supplemental weapon. If you want to put a tank down; get a forge gun.
Ruin.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1063
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:32:00 -
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I posted about this stuff before.
SWARMS NOT RPG!
Show me where the RPG can lock on, fire multiple volleys, chase the tank around a corner.
Show me how the RPG user reloads several times from hammer space AND then a nanohive.
Tank doesn't have armor or shield resists. Wait a minute! It doesn't have any shields! It also doesn't even have the reactive armor packs that those tanks normally have pasted all over them.
Watch how the guy has to run like hell after one lucky shot.
Also, not on a map the size of a football field with the same bowl design as a football field.
Also, the tanks were just sitting there.
So, no you shouldn't be able to solo a tank in this game with a fantasy weapon that does the work of four real world weapons especially when you can just run to a supply depot or respawn on a roof with one.
In RL I can solo a guy from 500m away with an M-16 with one shot but you don't see that happening to well in this game.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Our Deepest Regret
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
488
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:44:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote: here but we cant pop one solo with a full mag from swarms? and tankers say we shouldn't be able to?
Bro, that's a T-72 tank. Not to get too lost in specifics, but t-72's were absolute garbage. Mass produced soviet trash that were completely ineffective on the battlefield. The biggest showing they ever had was in the first gulf war where a fleet of them got ruthlessly frog stomped by the Americans.
If you absolutely have to make a real world comparison to Dust, then Gunlogis are K2 Black Panthers, and Madrugars are M1A2 Abrams. One man with a rocket cannot beat either of these behemoths.
A T-72 would be sub-militia. [/i]unter[/i]-militia. Any country still deploying one of those things as part of its arsenal probably has a teensy G.N.P. That's Banana republic level garbage. |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2241
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:50:00 -
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Tank got ammoracked
Plus i didnt see its hardeners on either, oh wait we dont have hardeners or shields or fancy sci fi weapons
Intelligence is OP
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2704
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:56:00 -
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Reality:
One infantry unit, one single bullet, one dead enemy infantry unit. TTK 0.001 seconds.
We are playing a game. |
MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
777
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:57:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Tank got ammoracked
Plus i didnt see its hardeners on either, oh wait we dont have hardeners or shields or fancy sci fi weapons
I never actually saw a projectile hit the tank either.
Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1063
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Posted - 2014.01.17 20:04:00 -
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Our Deepest Regret wrote:P14GU3 wrote: here but we cant pop one solo with a full mag from swarms? and tankers say we shouldn't be able to? Bro, that's a T-72 tank. Not to get too lost in specifics, but t-72's were absolute garbage. Mass produced soviet trash that were completely ineffective on the battlefield. The biggest showing they ever had was in the first gulf war where a fleet of them got ruthlessly frog stomped by the Americans. If you absolutely have to make a real world comparison to Dust, then Gunlogis are K2 Black Panthers, and Madrugars are M1A2 Abrams. One man with a rocket cannot beat either of these behemoths. A T-72 would be sub-militia. unter-militia. Any country still deploying one of those things as part of its arsenal probably has a teensy G.N.P. That's Banana republic level garbage.
Not to mention they go boom due to where the ammo is stored GÇö which is around the turret base. That's why they pop there top.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2241
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Posted - 2014.01.17 20:04:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Tank got ammoracked
Plus i didnt see its hardeners on either, oh wait we dont have hardeners or shields or fancy sci fi weapons I never actually saw a projectile hit the tank either.
True
Intelligence is OP
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
504
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:23:00 -
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Lol, thx guys. I knew this would cause some nerd rage.
The one shot to kill a person irl quote is priceless. What about armor? Do soldiers not where it? Ive seen a guy shot multiple times and live. So no, ttk is NOT .001 secs. (Btw i can one shot u in game with a proto sniper, whoops there goes 200k, about the price of a tank right?)
You guys just dont get it. There are only 16 men to a team. If a tank takes multiple people to down it, that leaves a major imbalance to the team. No one person should EVER take more than one person to down (unless it was open world where i could stack a team of 32 vs 16.)
So yes, this isnt real life, and thank you all for proving my point. That games should not be balanced around real life, but around actual balance. Go figure. A tank needed more than one person to kill, is not balance |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
504
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:31:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:I posted about this stuff before.
SWARMS NOT RPG!
Show me where the RPG can lock on, fire multiple volleys, chase the tank around a corner.
Show me how the RPG user reloads several times from hammer space AND then a nanohive.
Tank doesn't have armor or shield resists. Wait a minute! It doesn't have any shields! It also doesn't even have the reactive armor packs that those tanks normally have pasted all over them.
Watch how the guy has to run like hell after one lucky shot.
Also, not on a map the size of a football field with the same bowl design as a football field.
Also, the tanks were just sitting there.
So, no you shouldn't be able to solo a tank in this game with a fantasy weapon that does the work of four real world weapons especially when you can just run to a supply depot or respawn on a roof with one.
In RL I can solo a guy from 500m away with an M-16 with one shot but you don't see that happening to well in this game.
Have you ever even fired a swarm? Those missiles are stupid as hell. I love the whole you dont have to aim arguement, because if i could actually aim with it, you would be dead. I hate lock-on weapons, they just cant compare to a human brain. All you have to do is turn a corner and the swarms will miss everytime. These things dont track around corners contrary to popular belief. The fire and forget arguement is a joke, and so are swarms |
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