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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.17 15:29:00 -
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I'm still curious as to what changes the Assaults and Logis will have. There will likely be other changes to module (maybe damage mods?) and possibly retweaking the new rifles. There is also a high probability there will either be a new gamemode, retweaking and old one, or major new game mechanic (player trading *fingers crossed*).
So assuming we get all these suits we will have 8 new suits and the remaining will be reworked. We can speculate on whether there will be a respec, but it's not necessary. Though if there was to be one for dropsuits now would be the perfect time. If the min scout has the hacking bonus than it is very likely the Minmatar are getting a new one, confirming the Singularity stats. I personally wouldn't need a respec but I can see a lot of people who would, like those who chose min logis for the hacking bonus and those who wanted heavy suits but hate Amarr.
I would recommend a dropsuit respec for everyone if there were drastic changes to turn Logis back into a support specialization role and turn Assaults into the primary assault role (notice I said assault not slayer). Like I said though, I won't mind if they don't, I'm saving up in time for the new Gallente heavies (so much extra LP) and put most of my SP in cores so have weathered most changes.
Now each race will have 5 suits, and each suit a racial variant. Coupling that with the racial rifles, sidearms, and equipment this game has taken a huge step in being where it should have been at release. By balancing the racial versions of everything fac war could become another hub of activity with an open market and standing tweaks.
We still don't know when 1.8 will be released or what the final suits and weapons will look like but assuming there are no game breaking bugs or balance issues 1.8 so far looks amazing.
Where is my Gallente sidearm?
SoonGäó514
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LOADED'HORN
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:50:00 -
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We can only hope they allow at least an optional respect for suits. It would be nice to reclaim the sp that is ineffective. Would also go a very long way to refresh the core game play!
So many aspects of the game are still wonky. Might as well respec the suits for what we have put up with for a year. I missed the optional respec and still have meaningless suit sp sinks. I don't think it would add imbalance, overall it would smooth it out IMO.
Making 1000's of players happy would be good for CCPs player base.
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:54:00 -
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I'd be all for a respec if there was an Assault/Logi fix. I'd still stick to my Gal Logi. I want all the tryhards who tarnish my suits name to chose something else.
Where is my Gallente sidearm?
SoonGäó514
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Cosgar
ParagonX
9110
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:58:00 -
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At this rate, logis are going to be restricted to sidearms thanks to forum butthurt. Never mind the fact that everything in this game is broken. So glad I quit weeks ago. I'd actually be really pissed off right now about all these sweeping changes and not a thing being done about homing bullet aim assist, recoiless rifles and new player experience.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2008
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:02:00 -
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I think the reason we haven't seen the stats yet is because they are probably still up in the air with the numbers.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:05:00 -
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Assaults are still being discussed we're at an awful cross road on what do with bonuses. I am sure some of the 'leaked' feedback is proving useful but its not useful enough. Discussions will be ongoing. Logistics other than the new bonuses I think its safe to say don't expect much more. Assaults however is an unknown story at this point still. So until the blue tag posts about it no concrete is poured out yet.
As for the heavies and light bonuses the concrete was just poured so you have some time to give feedback on those if they're not up to snuff before it dries.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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pagl1u M
The Rainbow Effect
240
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:21:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Assaults are still being discussed we're at an awful cross road on what do with bonuses. I am sure some of the 'leaked' feedback is proving useful but its not useful enough. Discussions will be ongoing. Logistics other than the new bonuses I think its safe to say don't expect much more. Assaults however is an unknown story at this point still. So until the blue tag posts about it no concrete is poured out yet.
As for the heavies and light bonuses the concrete was just poured so you have some time to give feedback on those if they're not up to snuff before it dries.
Dont you think logis will need some kind of buff to help them survive in the battlefield? I know they are meant to only support but they wont be able to do it if they ll be destroyed by all these monsters that there will be.
What are You discussing about Assaults? The role bonus? The amarr bonus?
Also: what do you (cpm) think about a respec? What do ccp thinks? |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Assaults are still being discussed we're at an awful cross road on what do with bonuses. I am sure some of the 'leaked' feedback is proving useful but its not useful enough. Discussions will be ongoing. Logistics other than the new bonuses I think its safe to say don't expect much more. Assaults however is an unknown story at this point still. So until the blue tag posts about it no concrete is poured out yet.
As for the heavies and light bonuses the concrete was just poured so you have some time to give feedback on those if they're not up to snuff before it dries.
I'd like to see Logis either lose slots so they can be maximize the few they have, or lose CPU/PG so they remain flexible but can never outdo another class at anything other than fielding equipment, not as big a fan of that because CPU and PG upgrades. This is coming from a career Gal Logi. The sidearm only idea is terrible for Logis. We still need to be able to fight effectively, the problem is that it's too easy to stack max weapons and armor to outdo most other classes in a fight. It's no coincidence that the Cal, Min, and Gal Logi are used by all the try hard,s they have the most slots and the CPU/PG to fill them out.
Where is my Gallente sidearm?
SoonGäó514
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
1103
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:23:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Assaults are still being discussed we're at an awful cross road on what do with bonuses. I am sure some of the 'leaked' feedback is proving useful but its not useful enough. Discussions will be ongoing. Logistics other than the new bonuses I think its safe to say don't expect much more. Assaults however is an unknown story at this point still. So until the blue tag posts about it no concrete is poured out yet.
As for the heavies and light bonuses the concrete was just poured so you have some time to give feedback on those if they're not up to snuff before it dries. Dont you think logis will need some kind of buff to help them survive in the battlefield? I know they are meant to only support but they wont be able to do it if they ll be destroyed by all these monsters that there will be. What are You discussing about Assaults? The role bonus? The amarr bonus? Also: what do you (cpm) think about a respec? What do ccp thinks?
I think the new logi bonuses look awesome. specialization is the name of the game. |
Maken Tosch
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
6478
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:31:00 -
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Wow!
I can't believe we are now soooooo close to racial parity. It's incredible. The only except to this are the vehicles. Other than that, I am so happy to even see the new stats that have been posted for the suits. I especially like the stats for the scouts.
Scouts are definitely getting some love in the CPU. The PG has been buffed quite a bit for the Gallente scout while the Minmatar scout gets a marginal buff to PG but since the CPU on both suits has increased by nearly 100 for one and over 100 for the other, I think we're in the right direction.
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Overall, there definitely needs to be a respec given out for dropsuits and weapons once these babies come out. It would feel wrong if we don't get one for this. Vehicles users got one after all.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
866
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:44:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:At this rate, logis are going to be restricted to sidearms thanks to forum butthurt. Never mind the fact that everything in this game is broken. So glad I quit weeks ago. I'd actually be really pissed off right now about all these sweeping changes and not a thing being done about homing bullet aim assist, recoiless rifles and new player experience.
QFT.. If patch notes and/or 1.8 does nothing for controls, TTK and NPE, this game is just going to continue to sink,I for one im glad I haven't put a dime in CCP'S pocket in the last month or so... |
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