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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.17 03:40:00 -
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After looking at the Warframe wiki a little...It makes me wonder would different melee weapons be viable. I mean, we have Nova Knives and those should be prime for killing soon but can we expand upon them? Talks of the Amarr AV blade(which sounds weird already) and people asking for other melee weapons is what sparked all of this.
What the Hell would the other racial variants be? I know I seen different racial knives but I don't see how different they could be if Nova Knives already ignore efficiency. And even then, with only the efficiency and small details to worry about racial knives seem kinda pointless and over complicated. No one's going to want to worry about whether or not their knife is better for slashing shields away or armor when they pretty much all play the same except charge up time or speed in hitting.
>.> I'd honestly say, go for more unique melee weapons. A mix between effective and realistic.
I'd go for Plasma Swords for Gallente, Nova Knives(obviously) for Caldari, Laser Cutter for Amarr, and a Space-Machete for Minmatar.
Plasma Sword cuts through shields but are not as effective against armor although the range of the blade is also a bonus because the enemy will have a harder time fleeing CQC. Another issue is that it's slow compared to the other melee weapons.
Nova Knives would still be boss because of their short range. They cut through armor effectively but you need the charge up to actually get max potential damage on shields. I feel that it's already pretty limited because of both the range and the actual speed that a user needs to effectively kill. Medium suits and Heavy suits only get bonuses in "shock" factor when an enemy see's them gunning so slowly towards them with knives.
Laser Cutter is highly effective against shields but not as effective against armor. While it doesn't have as large of a range as the Plasma Sword, it's way faster. The other major flaw is that after a while of being "active" it becomes weaker and this is due to the laser needing to "recharge" lore wise but also to stop most people from just dashing through clusters of people slashing them down like it's nothing. It would have the third shortest range.
The Machete would be made from a special material that allows for optimal armor damage but low shield damage. It's shaped to smash and cleave at a moderately fast pace(faster than the Plasma Sword but slower than the Laser Cutter). It's the second longest melee weapon(Plasma Sword as first) with the second longest range.
Also. Each melee weapon would deserve an ability to block melee damage. Melee battles would be much more epic.
Anyways, I'm done rambling like the bored idiot I am . What do you guys have in mind, if you think more melee weapons would be viable, that is?
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.01.17 03:53:00 -
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Or go play minecraft.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.17 04:03:00 -
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Glove gun
Punch a person to fire the bullet.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.01.17 04:04:00 -
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Let's move beyond 1-handed blades.
The Amarr should get some sort of Electrical Spear/Glaive, because it isn't feasable to make a laser based melee weapon, because its range would be too long, and lasers don't stop like they do in Star Wars.
The Caldari could get some sort of 2-handed Plasma-edged Katana, because their design is largely inspired from Japanese culture and a missile/railgun based melee weapon just doesn't make sense.
The Gallente should get the Nova Knife, seeing as they are the CQC race. Just reskin it and/or give it a new model.
The Minmatar... A simple iron alloy blade just wouldn't be enough to get through a dropsuit, so we have to get creative here. They would use something fast that has a medium range. Dual wielded waraxes of some sort would be fitting... I'm kind of stumped here. Any suggestions?
Yours Truly,
Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.01.17 04:09:00 -
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I give you theballistic fist.
Yes, that is a double-barreled 12g shotgun glove. It is fake, obviously, but it could be done IRL quite easily.
Edit: This could be the Minmatar Melee weapon!
Yours Truly,
Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
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Aizen Intiki
Hell's Gate Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.01.17 04:21:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Let's move beyond 1-handed blades.
The Amarr should get some sort of Electrical Spear/Glaive, because it isn't feasable to make a laser based melee weapon, because its range would be too long, and lasers don't stop like they do in Star Wars.
The Caldari could get some sort of 2-handed Plasma-edged Katana, because their design is largely inspired from Japanese culture and a missile/railgun based melee weapon just doesn't make sense.
The Gallente should get the Nova Knife, seeing as they are the CQC race. Just reskin it and/or give it a new model.
The Minmatar... A simple iron alloy blade just wouldn't be enough to get through a dropsuit, so we have to get creative here. They would use something fast that has a medium range. Dual wielded waraxes of some sort would be fitting... I'm kind of stumped here. Any suggestions?
hummm..... Flak cannon. No seriously, go with the throwing axe, however, tip them with a large amount of tritanium, much more than the bullets.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.17 04:27:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:I give you the ballistic fist. Yes, that is a double-barreled 12g shotgun glove. It is fake, obviously, but it could be done IRL quite easily. Edit: This could be the Minmatar Melee weapon! Yeah, I was thinking either Minmatar or Gallante.
My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.17 04:38:00 -
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Lol space machete.
An AV melee weapon is the kinda thing I would take to proficiency 20.
No.
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Christiphoros von Poe
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.17 04:45:00 -
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Daedric Mace!
Oh wait... Wrong game...
I fought at Caldari Prime
Closed Beta Vet
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
TheLostLegion
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Posted - 2014.01.17 04:49:00 -
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All races have Knives or some variant of a set of racial Nova Knives already guys, you can even find concept art for them. It's just that CCP hasn't introduced them yet. What I would propose is: Amarr - Two handed Energy Spear/Haldberg -Similair to the Proton Axe from Fallout New Vegas Old World Blue dlc, it should do equal but moderate damage to both shield and armour. (Reason, well the Amarr Assault remind me of the royal guard from star wars episode I,II,III that protect the senator and padame, you know the big red guys who carry haldbergs and wear long red robes) Gallente - Some kind of Big ass Plasma Sledge, you know, something that's big and heavy like the Gallentes penchant for armour, with a long swing but high impact damage to both shield and armour. (Something like the sledgehammer from Resistance 3) Caldari - I like the idea of a long two handed Nova dai-Katana, something like an enchanted Dai-Katana from TES: Morrowind with an electrical charge animation like something from SKYRIM. Minmitar - I thought about this and I figured something like the aforementioned Power Gauntlet used by the Brotherhood of Steel from F3/FNV, with the sort of explosive round impact effect of "Two-Step Goodbye" from the FNV Gun Runner Arsenal DLC, or a jury-rigged fusion cutter like an industrial chainsaw that has to start up and be revved to increase the rotation speed of its rotary blades at the cost of an accelerated heat build up which would cause it to jam, just like the HMG. Rudimentary but brutally effective and very gory, maybe have it reserved for a heavy only melee weapon to give it an imposing size, to chew scouts up and spit out biomass.
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
904
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Posted - 2014.01.17 05:26:00 -
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I gave you guys bladed weaponry and you give me power gloves?
Lol I wasn't expecting that at all.
>.> I would love to punch people in the face though. CoughDoomTreeCough.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Lucrezia LeGrand
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Posted - 2014.01.17 05:34:00 -
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Minmatar would have a swiss army knife held together with spit and glue. lol
on a side note, I think I'm becoming racist towards Minmatar. T-T this will be the last joke I'll make about them.
ya- hoi hoi
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.01.17 06:03:00 -
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Saying that the Minmatar anything is held together with spit and glue isn't being racist; it's true. Just like saying that the Caldari love money isn't racist, the Amarr want to rule the world, or that the Gallente have sexual relations with their livestock because their women are hideous. It isn't racist if it is true. Caldari Prime: We will get it back.
Anyhoo, I actually think Melee weapons are kind of silly in this game, especially considering how they work. Why use a Nova Knife when I can use a Shotgun? Even as a Sidearm, SMG is better. I think Melee weapons should stay in the realm of "push button to knife" but that is just me. Even if there were more melee weapons added, what is the point? It isn't like a Rail Rifle or Laser Rifle that have completely different ways of murdering people and at different ranged. Nova Knife kills people at Melee range and "Graviton Hammer" kills at Melee range.
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Sgt Buttscratch
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Posted - 2014.01.17 06:38:00 -
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I think the minmatar should get a buzz axe.
Picture of said buzz axe
Video of said buzz axe
This weapon would give the minnie scout good close range melee ability and pretty good med range damage.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen
340
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:02:00 -
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http://www.officialpsds.com/images/thumbs/Spiked-Brass-Knuckles-psd72464.png heres 1
Dropship Surfer/Ninja
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:03:00 -
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sgt your a genius
Dropship Surfer/Ninja
Trust me, you don't WANT me to play COD multiplayer.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen
340
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:04:00 -
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http://www.thepartyworks.com/ip/images19/198352/800414.jpg heres another
Dropship Surfer/Ninja
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Nosid Katona
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:05:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote: Gallente - Some kind of Big ass Plasma Sledge, you know, something that's big and heavy like the Gallentes penchant for armour, with a long swing but high impact damage to both shield and armour. (Something like the sledgehammer from Resistance 3)
I was thinking more along the lines of the sledgehammer from Red Faction: Guerrilla. Smashes through walls, floors, and people alike. :D
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