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Vulcanus Lightbringer
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.14 10:07:00 -
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I'd rather not have grenades to be honest... |
Blood Spades
Lokapalas.
4
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Posted - 2014.01.14 10:09:00 -
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Grenades.
Donuts.
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
721
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Posted - 2014.01.14 10:10:00 -
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Sidearm
Without grenades It would be harder for me to solo tanks 
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
Top Men.
915
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Posted - 2014.01.14 10:13:00 -
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Lose the sidearm if I must choose.
Smeehf.
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
461
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Posted - 2014.01.14 10:14:00 -
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Neither.
My Channel : Valhalla South
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hgghyujh
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
219
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Posted - 2014.01.14 10:15:00 -
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neither is optimal personally grenades, but that's 'cause I really don't use them. Frankly which ever way it goes I could care less I'm mainly bumping this 'cause I want to see where this conversation goess.
maybe instead of minmatar not getting the second equip slot they lose grenades??? |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
722
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Posted - 2014.01.14 10:18:00 -
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hgghyujh wrote:neither is optimal personally grenades, but that's 'cause I really don't use them. Frankly which ever way it goes I could care less I'm mainly bumping this 'cause I want to see where this conversation goess.
maybe instead of minmatar not getting the second equip slot they lose grenades???
From what I heard the devs were thinking of Min scouts loosing the 2nd equipment slot.
I say they should just man up and make us run around with just knives. Our enemies can't complain about cloaks then if we're so helpless when we're spotted.
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
144
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Posted - 2014.01.14 10:22:00 -
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For me they are equal important, but it's too much utility lost to lose grenades. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
3253
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Posted - 2014.01.14 10:23:00 -
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Neither.
You wanna battle / Aztec's not afraid of you / I could care less about your reputation / Even though it maybe true.
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Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
556
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Posted - 2014.01.14 10:28:00 -
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Currently, I have to sacrifice my grenades just so I can have a decent weapon AND modules that don't suck. So I would prefer not having a grenade slot.
But ultimately, a scout should not have to loose grenades or a sidearm. It is not like they'd be OP if they had them both in conjunction with two equipment. And considering how much CPU&PG scouts have... well, they'd have to sacrifice SOMETHING when making their fit, just like they do now. |
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
722
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Posted - 2014.01.14 10:40:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Currently, I have to sacrifice my grenades just so I can have a decent weapon AND modules that don't suck. So I would prefer not having a grenade slot.
But ultimately, a scout should not have to loose grenades or a sidearm. It is not like they'd be OP if they had them both in conjunction with two equipment. And considering how much CPU&PG scouts have... well, they'd have to sacrifice SOMETHING when making their fit, just like they do now.
My understanding is that scouts are getting a systems buff as well. Looks like we'll be able to fit pretty much whatever the hell we want in the future
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Leonid Tybalt
Dark Knightz Corp.
137
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Posted - 2014.01.14 11:05:00 -
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Im not a scout but knowing how squishy they are from having killed a buttload of them, I look at it this way:
If a scout runs into a situation where he basically has has to switch to his sidearm (i.e a strafing close range firefight) then he's not likely to survive anyway, making the sidearm slot pretty redundant.
Grenades on the other hand is both useful for surprise assault purposes (lobbing them on an unsuspecting enemy before shooting them) AND aid in escape from firefights that scouts aren't supposed to handle (lobbing your grenades at a pursuers feet while retreating).
Thus I'd rather have grenades and that extra equipment slot rather than a sidearm and no grenades.
Besides, i'm used to playing as a logi anyway and we don't have sidearms and do just fine. |
Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
250
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Posted - 2014.01.14 11:05:00 -
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Scout should not have to sacrifice versatility for the sake of a class ability. Loss of either will reduce the effective of the class.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=135730&find=unread |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1972
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Posted - 2014.01.14 11:53:00 -
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Yeah, I don't want a 2nd equipment slot.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4330
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Posted - 2014.01.14 11:56:00 -
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That's actually a good idea.
At least one Racial Scout should have 2 weapons, grenade and equipment, at least one with no sidearm and extra equipment, and at least one with no grenades and extra equipment. Then we see where people go and how effective the different options are. |
negative49er
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
487
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Posted - 2014.01.14 12:00:00 -
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Grenade, cause i don't even put grenade on my scout and the sidearm save my butt more than a grenade
Dedicated Shotgun Scout
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Fusion Commander
molon labe.
Public Disorder.
55
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Posted - 2014.01.14 12:18:00 -
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Grenades |
dzizur
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2014.01.14 13:18:00 -
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sidearm
i can fit a sidearm on my light slot if i need it.
and nades... ahh pretty pretty flux nades, 1000 ehp heavies just love to have 1/2 their hp gone in half a second and the "armor" half by a CR :) seriously, without nades i would have to resort to RE and plasma cannons (at which I suck badly) to somehow kill the tanked dudes before they just turn around and wipe the floor with me |
Sgt Buttscratch
1294
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Posted - 2014.01.14 13:22:00 -
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Why do we have to lose something?
Can't we just be fixed then improved?
CCP need to let people who actually rely on something other than spam to have a little fun also.
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
497
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Posted - 2014.01.14 13:24:00 -
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I never use grenades on my scout. |
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Faquira Bleuetta
0uter.Heaven
161
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Posted - 2014.01.14 13:24:00 -
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dropsuit bcuz i liek raping |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1568
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Posted - 2014.01.14 13:25:00 -
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Vulcanus Lightbringer wrote:I'd rather not have grenades to be honest...
None but if I really have to then grenades. Although 1 light weapon for 2 side arms and 2 eq would work to. |
noob cavman
Tickle My Null-Sac
409
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Posted - 2014.01.14 13:47:00 -
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Neither, ccp buff and nerf my scout at the same time... really?
Hey mlt tank guess what my lav is ready and I GOT TWO TICKETS TO PARADISE!!!
British ninja cowboy
scout, logi, heavy
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2819
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Posted - 2014.01.14 13:48:00 -
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With a CPU/PG buff, I'd rather have two sidearms. But I'm a little touched.
No.
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Onesimus Tarsus
812
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Posted - 2014.01.14 13:56:00 -
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Scouts can give up sidearms and grenades when all suits lose them. Until then, nope. Unless, of course, in exchange, CCP is going to give scouts the HP of the heavy and all the highs and lows and CPU and PG of a proto logi. That would be ok, I guess, but I still would miss the idea of having equipment (including paid-for BPOs) being rendered useless to me. Scouts are weak enough, quit pretending to be having to make hard choices when scouts are the only suits getting the shaft in this game.
So, to sum up: if CCP takes away sidearms or grenades, they are bad people and even poorer game designers.
I got my hand around the pistol grip, and the safety's off.
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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
1970
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Posted - 2014.01.14 13:58:00 -
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Let's say each suit has 9 slots and the suit itself. (this is probably high). And lets say you kill 80% of the enemy clones.
25% of salvage divided 16 ways (6.25% remaining salvage) of the 80% of 150 clones, and a good chunk of those things might be BPO, let's say 10% conservatively...
You are looking at 15-20 pieces of salvage if you kill most of their clones. |
Onesimus Tarsus
812
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Posted - 2014.01.14 14:04:00 -
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Vulcanus Lightbringer wrote:I'd rather not have grenades to be honest...
Then don't carry them.
I got my hand around the pistol grip, and the safety's off.
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Marc Rime
224
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:38:00 -
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Uh, scouts need more slots, not less.
And more PG/CPU. I don't always carry grenades on my scouts, but that is because I lack CPU or PG. |
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