DUST Search - R.I.P. Mass Driver ++++++

demens grimwulff wrote:

I don't think the Mass Driver was ever supposed to be as strong as it was. The major problem with explosives before have now been fixed... If you don't know what they are, I will list it, and hopefully you will see why the explosives were a problem and have now been equalized:

1) Before, explosive blast radius ignored the reduction of damage to shields and did the same damage to shields as to armor. This had been proven several times over via video and posted on the forums

2) Before, explosive blast radius gave no reduction to damage based on range, meaning that someone standing directly above the explosion at distance 0 got the same amount of damage as the person on the edge of the blast at 7.2m (for instance). This has been fixed as, it not only makes sense, but mimics real world impacts of explosions. Now mass driver users have to be more accurate...

This post isn't meant to be mean, but to point out where Mass Drivers were O/P... It isn't the weapons fault, you just got used to faulty code or code that wasn't fully finished.

~Art, CEO and Head Instructor at Learning Coalition College, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition

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Smoky The Bear The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 122	Posted - 2014.01.13 08:49:00 - [1] - Quote Theres no smoke no arc no damage no fear no POINT Just target practice for anyone holding a militia rifle or better.. It was right the way it was originally..
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 359	Posted - 2014.01.13 10:24:00 - [2] - Quote lik dis if you cry evry tiem
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3989	Posted - 2014.01.13 10:26:00 - [3] - Quote I know Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5522	Posted - 2014.01.13 10:37:00 - [4] - Quote No fear? A weapon that can hit me behind cover while I try to lick my wounds. I have to either move into the crossfire or bear the brunt of the MD shell on my armor Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
thomas mak STRONG-ARMED BANDITS Public Disorder. 16	Posted - 2014.01.13 11:33:00 - [5] - Quote rest in piece...... I have ADV MD too *Real tanker dies with their tanks!*
Makuta Miserix Better Hide R Die 220	Posted - 2014.01.13 15:46:00 - [6] - Quote I still use mine from time to time. Unfortunately the rifles outclass it. May Scout's rise up again, and bring forth terror upon their enemies. Among the last of BHD Dust 514 Private Beta Vet
Al the destroyer NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 41	Posted - 2014.01.13 16:01:00 - [7] - Quote I miss you mass driver we had some good times together
demens grimwulff Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 103	Posted - 2014.01.13 16:27:00 - [8] - Quote I don't think the Mass Driver was ever supposed to be as strong as it was. The major problem with explosives before have now been fixed... If you don't know what they are, I will list it, and hopefully you will see why the explosives were a problem and have now been equalized: 1) Before, explosive blast radius ignored the reduction of damage to shields and did the same damage to shields as to armor. This had been proven several times over via video and posted on the forums 2) Before, explosive blast radius gave no reduction to damage based on range, meaning that someone standing directly above the explosion at distance 0 got the same amount of damage as the person on the edge of the blast at 7.2m (for instance). This has been fixed as, it not only makes sense, but mimics real world impacts of explosions. Now mass driver users have to be more accurate... This post isn't meant to be mean, but to point out where Mass Drivers were O/P... It isn't the weapons fault, you just got used to faulty code or code that wasn't fully finished.
DustMercsBlog Galactic News Network 88	Posted - 2014.01.13 16:52:00 - [9] - Quote ?!
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1626	Posted - 2014.01.13 17:29:00 - [10] - Quote It needs a 10% DMG buff. A boundless with a complex DMG mod isn't nearly as OP as it was in 1.4, but it does inspire fear and people don't just walk through the boom. 10%. That would be perfect. Also, it needs to have more ammo, BC since logi cannot play as assaults in 1.8, and only logistics suits can really use ot BC you basically have to carry 2 nanohives. Assaults run it dry in quickly unless theyre carrying ishukone hives. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!

demens grimwulff Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 103	Posted - 2014.01.13 17:34:00 - [11] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: It needs a 10% DMG buff. A boundless with a complex DMG mod isn't nearly as OP as it was in 1.4, but it does inspire fear and people don't just walk through the boom. 10%. That would be perfect. Also, it needs to have more ammo, BC since logi cannot play as assaults in 1.8, and only logistics suits can really use ot BC you basically have to carry 2 nanohives. Assaults run it dry in quickly unless theyre carrying ishukone hives. I still cringe at the thought of Mass Driver in 1.4 and the spam use of MD in PC... That was crazy bad. Now... I actually think, "Wow... A MD?! Haven't seen that in a while..."
Jammer Jalapeno Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 120	Posted - 2014.01.13 20:35:00 - [12] - Quote It can still be evil, you just need the right map/scenario. MmMmMm TanKs....delicious TanKs
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2014.01.13 20:54:00 - [13] - Quote I started an alt just to try the MD out. It was fun but ineffective, it did the job a couple of times better than anything else could maybe, but most of the time it was nothing but a noisemaker. Why is there no choice of ammo? An AV option at least?
Thor Odinson42 molon labe. Public Disorder. 2512	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:07:00 - [14] - Quote It's been a long time since I've run with it regularly. I miss it. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Yeeeuuuupppp KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 18	Posted - 2014.01.13 23:52:00 - [15] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: It needs a 10% DMG buff. A boundless with a complex DMG mod isn't nearly as OP as it was in 1.4, but it does inspire fear and people don't just walk through the boom. 10%. That would be perfect. Also, it needs to have more ammo, BC since logi cannot play as assaults in 1.8, and only logistics suits can really use ot BC you basically have to carry 2 nanohives. Assaults run it dry in quickly unless theyre carrying ishukone hives. Lol. No thanks. People would complain about it being OP... Again.. Save the poor weapon the pain before it gets broken beyond repair. You know how CCP is Carving Hearts in People's Backs, One Day At A Time ~ Nova Knives
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 430	Posted - 2014.01.14 00:56:00 - [16] - Quote The Mass Driver was never OP. Never Ever. It was always one of the lowest DPS weapons in the game. The only difference is that now aim assist has greatly narrowed the gun-game gap between mediocre players and great players, and random scrubs are now able to apply rifle damage more reliably. The Mass Driver has its niche applications, but it is no longer a competitive primary weapon, and it never was.
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 2680	Posted - 2014.01.14 01:12:00 - [17] - Quote Not to pisss on your depression parade but you exaggerate it's death. I continue it's use and as previously explained, have merely had to resort to finding perches. It's useable range was pushed back a bit but really it feels the same and when paired with certain situations can be extra deadly when the otherrifles can't poke out for a shot. In fact I just got op 5 today and proficiency one. Got 2 Breach MD kills too. Check out latest BSOTT Guide
Cosgar ParagonX 9085	Posted - 2014.01.14 05:22:00 - [18] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Not to pisss on your depression parade but you exaggerate it's death. I continue it's use and as previously explained, have merely had to resort to finding perches. It's useable range was pushed back a bit but really it feels the same and when paired with certain situations can be extra deadly when the otherrifles can't poke out for a shot. In fact I just got op 5 today and proficiency one. Got 2 Breach MD kills too. There's no doubts you can get kills with the MD, that's not really an issue. The problem is that it doesn't do what it was originally intended to do: area denial. It's a terror weapon that nobody is afraid of. It doesn't suppress, doesn't disorient, and doesn't have the teeth it once had. Killing someone is nice, but being able to scatter entire squads like before would be nicer. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Artificer Ghost Learning Coalition College 991	Posted - 2014.01.14 07:02:00 - [19] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: I don't think the Mass Driver was ever supposed to be as strong as it was. The major problem with explosives before have now been fixed... If you don't know what they are, I will list it, and hopefully you will see why the explosives were a problem and have now been equalized: 1) Before, explosive blast radius ignored the reduction of damage to shields and did the same damage to shields as to armor. This had been proven several times over via video and posted on the forums 2) Before, explosive blast radius gave no reduction to damage based on range, meaning that someone standing directly above the explosion at distance 0 got the same amount of damage as the person on the edge of the blast at 7.2m (for instance). This has been fixed as, it not only makes sense, but mimics real world impacts of explosions. Now mass driver users have to be more accurate... This post isn't meant to be mean, but to point out where Mass Drivers were O/P... It isn't the weapons fault, you just got used to faulty code or code that wasn't fully finished. Don't forget they fixed the bug where explosive damage counted twice (Reason why MLT Locus Grenades could OHK a Proto G-Assault). ~Art, CEO and Head Instructor at Learning Coalition College, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition Collage > College
Ivy Zalinto Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 247	Posted - 2014.01.14 08:05:00 - [20] - Quote My scout suit says mass drivers as still evil...then again so are 3 foot drops -.- Dedicated Stealth Scout. Scout instructor; Learning Coalition Scrambler Pistol dedication

BAD FURRY Oh No You Didn't 252	Posted - 2014.01.14 10:27:00 - [21] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Theres no smoke no arc no damage no fear no POINT Just target practice for anyone holding a militia rifle or better.. It was right the way it was originally.. Noun1.supporting fire - fire delivered by supporting units to protect or assist a unit in combat firing, fire - the act of firing weapons or artillery at an enemy; "hold your fire until you can see the whites of their eyes"; "they retreated in the face of withering enemy fire" close supporting fire - fire on enemy troops or weapons or positions that are near the supported unit and are the most immediate and serious threat to it deep supporting fire - fire on objectives not in the immediate vicinity of your forces but with the objective of destroying enemy reserves and weapons and interfering with the enemy command and supply and communications direct supporting fire - fire delivered in support of part of a force (as opposed to general supporting fire delivered in support of the force as a whole) look what all you can do still if you only stop running out in the open on one on ones Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
McFurious TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 450	Posted - 2014.01.14 10:56:00 - [22] - Quote There is supposedly readjustments to rifles in the works. Maybe once rifles aren't instant death and TTK isn't 0.2 seconds the MD will become more useful. At least I hope so. Rifles are so boring. Half Irish. Often angry. Closed Beta Masshole
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1209	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:43:00 - [23] - Quote I only use my mass driver in the research hub to defend the area around the supply depot during dominations. It's still a beast in the right situation. Where is my Gallente sidearm? SoonGäó514
Medical Crash cobra connection Public Disorder. 167	Posted - 2014.01.15 04:12:00 - [24] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Theres no smoke no arc no damage no fear no POINT Just target practice for anyone holding a militia rifle or better.. It was right the way it was originally.. When is the open casket ceremony being held? I head uncle Flaylock is coming, he's not doing to well, he has the nerf virus.
Yeeeuuuupppp KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 18	Posted - 2014.01.16 00:52:00 - [25] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: The Mass Driver was never OP. Never Ever. It was always one of the lowest DPS weapons in the game. The only difference is that now aim assist has greatly narrowed the gun-game gap between mediocre players and great players, and random scrubs are now able to apply rifle damage more reliably. The Mass Driver has its niche applications, but it is no longer a competitive primary weapon, and it never was. Nope, OP. Just annoying as hell. Especially to scouts Carving Hearts in People's Backs, One Day At A Time ~ Nova Knives
Yeeeuuuupppp KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 18	Posted - 2014.01.16 00:53:00 - [26] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: KA24DERT wrote: The Mass Driver was never OP. Never Ever. It was always one of the lowest DPS weapons in the game. The only difference is that now aim assist has greatly narrowed the gun-game gap between mediocre players and great players, and random scrubs are now able to apply rifle damage more reliably. The Mass Driver has its niche applications, but it is no longer a competitive primary weapon, and it never was. Nope, OP. Just annoying as hell. Especially to scouts Not OP* Carving Hearts in People's Backs, One Day At A Time ~ Nova Knives
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 4061	Posted - 2014.01.19 07:21:00 - [27] - Quote I just want to use it as a support weapon, would some smoke and a aim flinch effect be too much to ask for? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)


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