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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

Name: Assassin
Frame: light

Slots/stats:

No light weapon slot

3 sidearm slots

Otherwise same as a basic light

Role bonus:

2% sidearm damage per level

Racial bonuses:

Amarr: 5% reduction reduction in PG/CPU of Amarr racial knife + laser sidearms (scrambler pistol) per level.

Gallente: 5% reduction reduction in PG/CPU of Gallente racial knife + hybrid-baster sidearms (ion pistol) per level.

Caldari: 5% reduction reduction in PG/CPU of nova knives + hybrid-railgun sidearms (bolt pistol & magsec SMG) per level.

Minmatar: 5% reduction reduction in PG/CPU of Minmatar racial knife + projectile & explosive sidearms (flaylock pistol & SMG) per level.

*It may seem like the Caldari and Minmatar will be benefit the most out of the racial bonuses since they each have (or soon will have) an SMG in addition to their pistols and knives, but I'm willing to bet that the Amarr and Gallente will eventually get their own SMG for racial symmetry*

The reasoning behind this is that the Minmatar scout should not have a bonus to a Caldari knife since it doesn't make sense to have a bonus to a nother race's weapon, and even if it did have a bonus to its own race's weapon, it wouldn't fit a scout to have such narrow and combat-oriented bonuses; this is why I am proposing this combat oriented light specialization instead. Also each race will have their own knives and pistols (shown at Fanfest 2013), and I don't want scouts to get bonuses to weapons since it would just encourage them into a narrow combat path instead of stealth, etc. This is meant to be a sidearm/knife suit.

This dropsuit specialization would be perfect for a ninja-knifer, or any sidearm specialist.

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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7997	Posted - 2014.01.12 07:15:00 - [1] - Quote Name: Assassin Frame: light Slots/stats: No light weapon slot 3 sidearm slots Otherwise same as a basic light Role bonus: 2% sidearm damage per level Racial bonuses: Amarr: 5% reduction reduction in PG/CPU of Amarr racial knife + laser sidearms (scrambler pistol) per level. Gallente: 5% reduction reduction in PG/CPU of Gallente racial knife + hybrid-baster sidearms (ion pistol) per level. Caldari: 5% reduction reduction in PG/CPU of nova knives + hybrid-railgun sidearms (bolt pistol & magsec SMG) per level. Minmatar: 5% reduction reduction in PG/CPU of Minmatar racial knife + projectile & explosive sidearms (flaylock pistol & SMG) per level. It may seem like the Caldari and Minmatar will be benefit the most out of the racial bonuses since they each have (or soon will have) an SMG in addition to their pistols and knives, but I'm willing to bet that the Amarr and Gallente will eventually get their own SMG for racial symmetry The reasoning behind this is that the Minmatar scout should not have a bonus to a Caldari knife since it doesn't make sense to have a bonus to a nother race's weapon, and even if it did have a bonus to its own race's weapon, it wouldn't fit a scout to have such narrow and combat-oriented bonuses; this is why I am proposing this combat oriented light specialization instead. Also each race will have their own knives and pistols (shown at Fanfest 2013), and I don't want scouts to get bonuses to weapons since it would just encourage them into a narrow combat path instead of stealth, etc. This is meant to be a sidearm/knife suit. This dropsuit specialization would be perfect for a ninja-knifer, or any sidearm specialist. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 341	Posted - 2014.01.12 07:20:00 - [2] - Quote Don't want to kill this but how about two side arm slots , a grenade slot and two equipment slots ??? Explosives and scanner or just straight explosives . I like your idea though and you always have the work behind to back it up so no argument from me there . Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7998	Posted - 2014.01.12 07:21:00 - [3] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Don't want to kill this but how about two side arm slots , a grenade slot and two equipment slots ??? Explosives and scanner or just straight explosives . I like your idea though and you always have the work behind to back it up so no argument from me there . That would also work, I like that Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 341	Posted - 2014.01.12 07:25:00 - [4] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Don't want to kill this but how about two side arm slots , a grenade slot and two equipment slots ??? Explosives and scanner or just straight explosives . I like your idea though and you always have the work behind to back it up so no argument from me there . That would also work, I like that You know the people that you are dealing with on the game and they are cut-throat , so to give them three side arms whew ... it would be a field day for most . A knife , pistol and SMG is bad enough . I'm not even going to lie but that would be one light suit that would make me turn and run . Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 341	Posted - 2014.01.12 07:27:00 - [5] - Quote You know I like the idea and the work behind it . Like always . Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7999	Posted - 2014.01.12 09:09:00 - [6] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: You know I like the idea and the work behind it . Like always . Updated OP with your idea Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8004	Posted - 2014.01.13 01:43:00 - [7] - Quote Who else wants? Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3239	Posted - 2014.01.13 02:07:00 - [8] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Who else wants? Me! But I don't think it should be a light Frame. I think we should go medium frames. But I definitely like the idea, I always wanted a sidearm oriented suit. I thought the Minmatar Assault would be it, but it suck for anything outside AV. You can make it work with a CR but Heck the CR is even good on the Commando. You wanna battle / Aztec's not afraid of you / I could care less about your reputation / Even though it maybe true.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 372	Posted - 2014.01.13 03:39:00 - [9] - Quote i think the current mimnassault bonus should be this, just take away light slot and add second equipment and its pretty much this Proud Christian one of the most essential parts of eve is left out of dust: freedom, exploration, open-world gameplay.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8020	Posted - 2014.01.13 16:58:00 - [10] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Don't want to kill this but how about two side arm slots , a grenade slot and two equipment slots ??? Explosives and scanner or just straight explosives . I like your idea though and you always have the work behind to back it up so no argument from me there . Scouts will be getting 2 equipment slots according to CCP Remnant. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+

Mordecai Sanguine What The French 269	Posted - 2014.01.13 17:33:00 - [11] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Name: Assassin Frame: light Slots/stats: No light weapon slot 3 sidearm slots Otherwise same as a basic light Role bonus: 2% sidearm damage per level Racial bonuses: Amarr: 5% reduction reduction in PG/CPU of Amarr racial knife + laser sidearms (scrambler pistol) per level. Gallente: 5% reduction reduction in PG/CPU of Gallente racial knife + hybrid-baster sidearms (ion pistol) per level. Caldari: 5% reduction reduction in PG/CPU of nova knives + hybrid-railgun sidearms (bolt pistol & magsec SMG) per level. Minmatar: 5% reduction reduction in PG/CPU of Minmatar racial knife + projectile & explosive sidearms (flaylock pistol & SMG) per level. It may seem like the Caldari and Minmatar will be benefit the most out of the racial bonuses since they each have (or soon will have) an SMG in addition to their pistols and knives, but I'm willing to bet that the Amarr and Gallente will eventually get their own SMG for racial symmetry The reasoning behind this is that the Minmatar scout should not have a bonus to a Caldari knife since it doesn't make sense to have a bonus to a nother race's weapon, and even if it did have a bonus to its own race's weapon, it wouldn't fit a scout to have such narrow and combat-oriented bonuses; this is why I am proposing this combat oriented light specialization instead. Also each race will have their own knives and pistols (shown at Fanfest 2013), and I don't want scouts to get bonuses to weapons since it would just encourage them into a narrow combat path instead of stealth, etc. This is meant to be a sidearm/knife suit. This dropsuit specialization would be perfect for a ninja-knifer, or any sidearm specialist. That's perfect but to be balanced : Only 2 sidearms slot. (One knife and one weapon.) No grenade slots. 1 equipements. That was for the drawbacks. Now the best is yet to come ^^ Same Slots and PG/CPU than assault : But well faster almost scouts. Just a little lessl ife base than Logi. Same scanned profile than scouts.
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 1204	Posted - 2014.01.13 17:57:00 - [12] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: That's perfect but to be balanced : Only 2 sidearms slot. (One knife and one weapon.) No grenade slots. 1 equipements. That was for the drawbacks. Now the best is yet to come ^^ Same Slots and PG/CPU than assault : But well faster almost scouts. Just a little lessl ife base than Logi. Same scanned profile than scouts. Wrong direction. If the assassin is going to be proficient with knives, they are going to need speed (movement and sprint), not tank. T3 off of the scout Gets the scout's bonuses and base profile Higher base movement and sprint than scout Same or a little higher base eHP Reduced slot count 2-3 sidearms No grenades 1 equipment Assassins fight with stealth, surprise, and speed. A discovered assassin is a dead assassin. If unable to get the kill on initial encounter, they can use their high speed to retreat and quickly flank the weakened foe. Scout Roles: M-Speedy Anarchist \| C-Chaos Weaver \| G-Stealth Recon \| A-Endurance Hunter
mollerz Minja Scouts 1817	Posted - 2014.01.13 20:06:00 - [13] - Quote IMHO- A proto assassin minja would be what a proto Ginja is lot wise married with a faster sprint/walk stats than a proto minja. 4L - to tank biotics/ferroscale 1H- to tank a Dam mod or an extender 1L/1S 1EQ- presumably for a cloak. ADV- 3L/1H BAS- 2L/1H +Sidearm Dam per level as well as Dampening per level. I say ditch the 2nd EQ because an assassin would pack light (cloak), and use knives (no ammo). But any assassin would also require a backup weapon. This also still gives you freedom to EHP tank, or adjust for different roles. Or perhaps 2Sidearms and 2 equipment? hmm.... You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8039	Posted - 2014.01.13 22:30:00 - [14] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: That's perfect but to be balanced : Only 2 sidearms slot. (One knife and one weapon.) No grenade slots. 1 equipements. That was for the drawbacks. Now the best is yet to come ^^ Same Slots and PG/CPU than assault : But well faster almost scouts. Just a little lessl ife base than Logi. Same scanned profile than scouts. Wrong direction. If the assassin is going to be proficient with knives, they are going to need speed (movement and sprint), not tank. T3 off of the scout Gets the scout's bonuses and base profile Higher base movement and sprint than scout Same or a little higher base eHP Reduced slot count 2-3 sidearms No grenades 1 equipment Assassins fight with stealth, surprise, and speed. A discovered assassin is a dead assassin. If unable to get the kill on initial encounter, they can use their high speed to retreat and quickly flank the weakened foe. How would T3 stuff work? would you need level 3 or higher scout skill to unlock it? Would scout bonus stack with new assassin bonuses bonuses? (I hope yes, cloaked assassin would be sooo Predator) Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 1216	Posted - 2014.01.13 22:34:00 - [15] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: How would T3 stuff work? would you need level 3 or higher scout skill to unlock it? Would scout bonus stack with new assassin bonuses bonuses? (I hope yes, cloaked assassin would be sooo Predator) (If I was deciding things) Yes (lvl3 at least) and yes. (Think of a gal assassin with the gal scout's bonus profile reduction + cloak. The true predator.) Scout Roles: M-Speedy Anarchist \| C-Chaos Weaver \| G-Stealth Recon \| A-Endurance Hunter
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8039	Posted - 2014.01.13 22:46:00 - [16] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: How would T3 stuff work? would you need level 3 or higher scout skill to unlock it? Would scout bonus stack with new assassin bonuses bonuses? (I hope yes, cloaked assassin would be sooo Predator) (If I was deciding things) Yes (lvl3 at least) and yes. (Think of a gal assassin with the gal scout's bonus profile reduction + cloak. The true predator.) Updated the OP Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 1227	Posted - 2014.01.14 13:03:00 - [17] - Quote Honestly, this is something CCP could add pretty easily. Uniquely colored textures can wait (though I recommend their class color is grey since a grey and black proto assassin seems fitting). Scout Roles: M-Speedy Anarchist \| C-Chaos Weaver \| G-Stealth Recon \| A-Endurance Hunter
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5044	Posted - 2014.01.14 16:59:00 - [18] - Quote I swear I made the suggestion of an Assassin class in a couple threads recently Nonetheless, I like the idea. Doesn't need multiple equipment, maybe doesn't even need any equipment. The goal is to assassinate. Three sidearm slots will make it unique, and also focus on more assassination as light weapons are more about field combat. So basically the most common fits you'd see are pistol, smg, and knives. Probably make it faster than scouts. In general, we need more specializations so I'm all for this. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8061	Posted - 2014.01.14 17:18:00 - [19] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: I swear I made the suggestion of an Assassin class in a couple threads recently Nonetheless, I like the idea. Doesn't need multiple equipment, maybe doesn't even need any equipment. The goal is to assassinate. Three sidearm slots will make it unique, and also focus on more assassination as light weapons are more about field combat. So basically the most common fits you'd see are pistol, smg, and knives. Probably make it faster than scouts. In general, we need more specializations so I'm all for this. Should definitely keep the equipment slot for cloak. Cloak + assassin = predator deliciousness. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8203	Posted - 2014.01.20 02:22:00 - [20] - Quote I want Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+



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