DUST Search - It's not you; it's the gun: Small railgun bug

XxGhazbaranxX wrote:

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If you have used small rail gun turrets in 1.7 and have found that your aim is less than perfect; it might not be your fault. The weapon has a bug with damage application. It deals no damage when it should have. This does not happen always but it happens most of the time, at least from my experience.

There are three example in the video:

The intro: from a moving dropship. Damage does manage to get done and the enemy killed but only after several shots that should have done the trick.

The second is from a dropship onto an LAV. My friend landed the dropship on a tower and I shot at a stationary LAV that was unmanned.

The third example is to infantry. Using a stationary test subject I shot at him directly and no damage was applied. Then we proceeded to test splash in which case one shot managed to damage the test subject.

Please post you experience with small railgun turrets IN 1.7 and refrain from posting any experiences from before 1.7 unless it is a full comparison on how you feel the weapon is functioning in 1.7 vs earlier builds.

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XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 872	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:52:00 - [1] - Quote VIDEO If you have used small rail gun turrets in 1.7 and have found that your aim is less than perfect; it might not be your fault. The weapon has a bug with damage application. It deals no damage when it should have. This does not happen always but it happens most of the time, at least from my experience. There are three example in the video: The intro: from a moving dropship. Damage does manage to get done and the enemy killed but only after several shots that should have done the trick. The second is from a dropship onto an LAV. My friend landed the dropship on a tower and I shot at a stationary LAV that was unmanned. The third example is to infantry. Using a stationary test subject I shot at him directly and no damage was applied. Then we proceeded to test splash in which case one shot managed to damage the test subject. Please post you experience with small railgun turrets IN 1.7 and refrain from posting any experiences from before 1.7 unless it is a full comparison on how you feel the weapon is functioning in 1.7 vs earlier builds. Plasma Cannon Advocate For every niche there is a Rifle
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3527	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:58:00 - [2] - Quote That would explain why I can blow **** up easily with advanced missiles, but not proto rails. We used to have a time machine
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 485	Posted - 2014.01.11 22:59:00 - [3] - Quote I haven't experienced this back when 1.7 got released, BUT I did notice that anything rail has crap hit detection. Two days ago, I shot half my clip at a starter fit with standard Rail Rifle and even though the shots clearly hit him, they did no damage. Yesterday, 1/5 of my sniper shots actually hit their target. What's going on, CCP?
Mdog 24158 D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 91	Posted - 2014.01.11 23:11:00 - [4] - Quote Thanks i appreciate you making videos that display bugs it helps the game Flying derpships and combat rifle destroyer fear me
Foundation Seldon Gespenster Kompanie 374	Posted - 2014.01.11 23:33:00 - [5] - Quote It's important that this is posted in the bug support forum, CCP doesn't check General for this sort of stuff. As someone who uses the Small Railgun pretty frequently on an LAV I can also confirm that this is a frequent issue. Saga v. Methana Balance
xxwhitedevilxx M Ave atque Vale. 1466	Posted - 2014.01.11 23:37:00 - [6] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: VIDEO If you have used small rail gun turrets in 1.7 and have found that your aim is less than perfect; it might not be your fault. The weapon has a bug with damage application. It deals no damage when it should have. This does not happen always but it happens most of the time, at least from my experience. There are three example in the video: The intro: from a moving dropship. Damage does manage to get done and the enemy killed but only after several shots that should have done the trick. The second is from a dropship onto an LAV. My friend landed the dropship on a tower and I shot at a stationary LAV that was unmanned. The third example is to infantry. Using a stationary test subject I shot at him directly and no damage was applied. Then we proceeded to test splash in which case one shot managed to damage the test subject. Please post you experience with small railgun turrets IN 1.7 and refrain from posting any experiences from before 1.7 unless it is a full comparison on how you feel the weapon is functioning in 1.7 vs earlier builds. +1 for the good work sir. Absolutely need ccp attention. I have another suggestion: small missile turrets on a moving LAV. they sometimes shoot far away from your target. Tank 514.
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 873	Posted - 2014.01.12 00:01:00 - [7] - Quote Foundation Seldon wrote: It's important that this is posted in the bug support forum, CCP doesn't check General for this sort of stuff. As someone who uses the Small Railgun pretty frequently on an LAV I can also confirm that this is a frequent issue. I sent in a support ticket as i always do with bugs. I just post it in general so the community can get a chance to know about it and discuss it Plasma Cannon Advocate For every niche there is a Rifle
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2427	Posted - 2014.01.12 00:12:00 - [8] - Quote A year ago I posted about how I parked 2 feet in front of a turret installation and fired at it 6x till overheat, but only "hit" it once. CCP does absolutely zero internal testing on half the things in this game.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2751	Posted - 2014.01.12 01:12:00 - [9] - Quote So, I think some of it at least is not so much a bug as also the way they program the recoil. I noticed how inaccurate small rails are against infantry a few weeks ago as I've been screwing around with them on the back of LAVs recently. Being full auto small rails have recoil and instead of applying the recoil AFTER the shot it applies it BEFORE the shot. As you charge it gains a verticle and some random horizontal recoil right before the charge finishes and the rail fires. It then quickly resets to where you had it before. This causes it to be very inaccurate against small targets (ie- infantry). Personally I believe they did this as it is listed as an antivehicle weapon to discourage it's use against infantry. It could be a happy accident or intended. Who knows. Small rails are awesome against infy when they do hit though. Using them on a dropship against infantry/equipment is a big ol' waste of time though. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7996	Posted - 2014.01.12 01:25:00 - [10] - Quote +1 Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+

XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 874	Posted - 2014.01.12 01:32:00 - [11] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: So, I think some of it at least is not so much a bug as also the way they program the recoil. I noticed how inaccurate small rails are against infantry a few weeks ago as I've been screwing around with them on the back of LAVs recently. Being full auto small rails have recoil and instead of applying the recoil AFTER the shot it applies it BEFORE the shot. As you charge it gains a verticle and some random horizontal recoil right before the charge finishes and the rail fires. It then quickly resets to where you had it before. This causes it to be very inaccurate against small targets (ie- infantry). Personally I believe they did this as it is listed as an antivehicle weapon to discourage it's use against infantry. It could be a happy accident or intended. Who knows. Small rails are awesome against infy when they do hit though. Using them on a dropship against infantry/equipment is a big ol' waste of time though. Maybe but it happens on vehicles too. The first test after the intro scene is against a vehicle. And even if the recoil where the culprit, the first shot in the test should have done damage but it did not. Plasma Cannon Advocate For every niche there is a Rifle
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 875	Posted - 2014.01.12 09:59:00 - [12] - Quote Any more input Plasma Cannon Advocate For every niche there is a Rifle
thomas mak STRONG-ARMED BANDITS Public Disorder. 13	Posted - 2014.01.12 11:22:00 - [13] - Quote I can aways hit a dropship with smalll rail on dropship I am flying *Real tanker dies with their tanks!*
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 440	Posted - 2014.01.12 11:50:00 - [14] - Quote Our corp's main tanker has informed me on numerous occasions since 1.7 that this has happened with his large railguns too. Gÿó +¦ +¦ Gÿó Trained Skills
Seeth Mensch Hawkborn Brotherhood IMMORTAL REGIME 122	Posted - 2014.01.16 02:22:00 - [15] - Quote I use a small rail gun all the time as a front gunner in a tank. Honestly, I've gotten reasonably good at it. What I have witnessed over and over: Rail gun will not hit when zoomed. Not all the time, but very frequently. It will continue to count down ammunition (and according to the pilot, firing) until it overheats, but not while I'm pressing the trigger. It will fail to hit someone, and then I move off target to something else and the original target takes damage/dies. When the tank is moving, frequently it simply will not register striking something (No, I wasn't missing!). All in all, it's still a strong weapon to use, but it is very, very buggy. Better than a blaster, though, IMO. Hi! Gosh, I've missed you...with every bullet, plasma shot, rail gun, and missile.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8933	Posted - 2014.02.07 16:26:00 - [16] - Quote All hail video evidence! Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 736	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:45:00 - [17] - Quote Can confirm, I think there was a thread about this a while ago too.


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