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Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 849	Posted - 2014.01.11 15:43:00 - [1] - Quote I haven't seen a Pro or Adv tank in ages. Are militia tanks that good that players don't need to upgrade? Also, are Adv-Pro really much more harder now to kill than militia or are they just as susceptible to being destroyed? Despite the nerf, I am still able to smash up a tank if done right. After I break through their shields, it's easier going from there with my modified Anti-Armor suit. Most militia tanks, even driven by those "hardcore" tankers, are easy to get up on. My major issue is usually them expanding the distance and lowering my effectiveness due to range. Going to-to-toe is where I really shine. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 104	Posted - 2014.01.11 15:46:00 - [2] - Quote Ask yourself this: why do you need an adv/pro tank, if you're just killing infantry?
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2190	Posted - 2014.01.11 15:47:00 - [3] - Quote We dont have any which is unfair Intelligence is OP
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 849	Posted - 2014.01.11 15:48:00 - [4] - Quote @Asha true. But once they get two or three of them destroyed, you'd imagine they would switch. Takahiro Kashuken wrote: We dont have any which is unfair Wait is that the truth? "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 1063	Posted - 2014.01.11 15:49:00 - [5] - Quote Lol, we never even had ADV/PRO tanks except for the Sagaris and Surya. Those were worth the ISK and SP investment but infantry cried they couldn't take them out with MLT AV so they were removed. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 849	Posted - 2014.01.11 15:51:00 - [6] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Lol, we never even had ADV/PRO tanks except for the Sagaris and Surya. Those were worth the ISK and SP investment but infantry cried they couldn't take them out with MLT AV so they were removed. well... Can you tell me the major differences in these tanks were compared to militia? HP, hardeners? "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1179	Posted - 2014.01.11 15:51:00 - [7] - Quote No ADV/PRO tanks yet. Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault Forum warrior lvl 1
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 1064	Posted - 2014.01.11 15:59:00 - [8] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Harpyja wrote: Lol, we never even had ADV/PRO tanks except for the Sagaris and Surya. Those were worth the ISK and SP investment but infantry cried they couldn't take them out with MLT AV so they were removed. well... Can you tell me the major differences in these tanks were compared to militia? HP, hardeners? From what I remember, 5 high/low and 3low/high slots while Sica was 3/2 and Soma 2/4. They also had higher PG and CPU than the Gunnlogi and Madrugar, so you could have better fittings. I believe their base shield/armor values were higher as well. And finally, I think they had a damage bonus per HAV level (which you needed at 5 anyways as a prerequisite for Mauraders) for blasters and missiles for the appropriate hulls. In other words, much better Enforcers. No movement penalty, higher base EHP, and better fitting resources. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 44	Posted - 2014.01.11 16:14:00 - [9] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Lol, we never even had ADV/PRO tanks except for the Sagaris and Surya. Those were worth the ISK and SP investment but infantry cried they couldn't take them out with MLT AV so they were removed. Heh, and now you can't even kill a MLT tank without two proto forges.... funny how CCP works.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 493	Posted - 2014.01.11 16:40:00 - [10] - Quote Sagaris and Surya's were adv shield and armour tanks respectively. More pg cpu, base shield and armour. We had more modules for fitting than we do now. They removed almost half vehicle mods. These tanks were removed and Gunlogi and Maddy given five high and five low respectively. 1.7, we are back to three high and three low respectively, I believe they will be introducing adv tanks back into the game soon hence the removal of two slots on each hull. I don't ever remember a true proto tank hull in this game to date. Taking out tanks with AV is very do-able, I take out many tanks with proto swarms and AV nades. Just wait for these rookies to make a mistake with their spam tank cause they really don't have any idea what they are doing in it and pop em. CEO Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"

Amarrgheddon Warcaste 82	Posted - 2014.01.11 16:43:00 - [11] - Quote I doubt we need ADV or Proto tanks. Give a good reason for them. Most people cant even deal with the basic ones we have now.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1172	Posted - 2014.01.11 16:46:00 - [12] - Quote We don't need Adv and Proto tanks. They need to get rid of tiered dropsuits. Tarn chose peace. Tallen chose war. Where is my Gallente sidearm? SoonGäó514
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3916	Posted - 2014.01.11 16:47:00 - [13] - Quote Amarrgheddon wrote: I doubt we need ADV or Proto tanks. Give a good reason for them. Most people cant even deal with the basic ones we have now. Balance perhaps, with ADV and PRO tanks on the field ADV and PRO AV can be balanced to deal with them, removing the current MLT tank problem. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1553	Posted - 2014.01.11 16:50:00 - [14] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: @Asha true. But once they get two or three of them destroyed, you'd imagine they would switch. Takahiro Kashuken wrote: We dont have any which is unfair Wait is that the truth? There are no adv or proto HULLS and with good reason a double hardened tank is bad enough let alone a cycled double hardner tank. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 850	Posted - 2014.01.11 16:56:00 - [15] - Quote >.> Then yeah...AV would definitely be too UP if we use the same stats to go against brought in ADV-PRO tanks. I do agree @Sinboto, that bringing in the other tanks means we could get a re-balance in stats. It would only make sense. And yeah @Monkey, that crap is annoying. Do you know what EVE pilots do to deal with it? Or do they just wait it out? "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1554	Posted - 2014.01.11 16:59:00 - [16] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Amarrgheddon wrote: I doubt we need ADV or Proto tanks. Give a good reason for them. Most people cant even deal with the basic ones we have now. Balance perhaps, with ADV and PRO tanks on the field ADV and PRO AV can be balanced to deal with them, removing the current MLT tank problem. No that doesn't work, consodering the gap between a std and mlt tanks proto will be massive. It was when Proto Tanks were removed the terrible disparity between Proto and Mlt became obvious, which in turn led to the overpowered AV of 1.6. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1554	Posted - 2014.01.11 17:00:00 - [17] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: >.> Then yeah...AV would definitely be too UP if we use the same stats to go against brought in ADV-PRO tanks. I do agree @Sinboto, that bringing in the other tanks means we could get a re-balance in stats. It would only make sense. And yeah @Monkey, that crap is annoying. Do you know what EVE pilots do to deal with it? Or do they just wait it out? They blow up the Logi Ship first, then they just out DPS it . . . probably. I'm no EvE expert. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1


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