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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2014.01.11 09:40:00 -
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It's not so much losing proto suits to cloaked scouts that puts fears in you. cause lets face it, your losing them to stealth scouts now. and thale snipers. Before you even see us now, your dead. But it's this...how does a great scout now, that knows how to sneak close to you use cloak? AFTER the deed. Clean escape. That what worries you? |
Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.01.11 09:45:00 -
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Plasma Cannon... from no where in front of me... to the face.
MCC Lounge Lizard
Forums > Game
Fix the game CCP
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.01.11 10:01:00 -
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It's a free kill.
A kill must be earned is how I think about it.
If there is an option for a free kill, that item or weapon needs to be nerfed until you actually have to work for that.
Thale's included.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
150
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Posted - 2014.01.11 10:04:00 -
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I don't get why people want it prenerfed.. :(
Do the nerfing after its officially recognized as OP
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THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.01.11 10:27:00 -
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People are afraid of change and are not willing to accommodate or deal with mechanics outside of the old damage/armor game. People are adverse to the scanner which is the counter to stealth scouts.
Electronic Warfare GOD in the making
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.11 10:31:00 -
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I'm scared of an entire squad of cloaked Scouts simultaneously meleeing me in the face with Swarm Launchers all at once.... |
THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
351
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Posted - 2014.01.11 10:35:00 -
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I can't wait to see how it ends up being implemented and how scouts go about using it. I'm going to have a speccing orgy come the next content update; Over 8 mill unallocated come this time next month.  I don't need or want it to be OP or FotM material, just to serve its purpose and make scouts fun again.
Electronic Warfare GOD in the making
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Paladin Sas
Pro Hic Immortalis
284
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Posted - 2014.01.11 10:38:00 -
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if the cloak is not scout specific... why is noone worried about the cloaked logi droping REs? |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.11 10:40:00 -
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Paladin Sas wrote:if the cloak is not scout specific... why is noone worried about the cloaked logi droping REs?
Isn't the cloak an equipment? I'd imagine using another equipment item would disable the cloaking effect. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2014.01.11 10:44:00 -
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Seeing how the assassination role of the scout is handled will have a direct correlation to how well this game will get retention wise. I'm saying it now. It a staple (pillar) in almost all FPS games. And one of the few left standing since closed beta. How many pillars is removed before the whole thing collapses as FPS game? |
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.11 10:59:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:It's a free kill.
A kill must be earned is how I think about it.
If there is an option for a free kill, that item or weapon needs to be nerfed until you actually have to work for that.
Thale's included.
Its hardly like you will be entirely invisible. At worst it will be like playing The Hidden, at best you will see constant air shimmer and outline of the scouts form.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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demonkiller 12
G.L.O.R.Y
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.11 11:05:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:It's not so much losing proto suits to cloaked scouts that puts fears in you. cause lets face it, your losing them to stealth scouts now. and thale snipers. Before you even see us now, your dead. But it's this...how does a great scout now, that knows how to sneak close to you use cloak? AFTER the deed. Clean escape. That what worries you?
i thought you werent able to have a weapon out while cloaked |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.01.11 11:13:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Cat Merc wrote:It's a free kill.
A kill must be earned is how I think about it.
If there is an option for a free kill, that item or weapon needs to be nerfed until you actually have to work for that.
Thale's included. Its hardly like you will be entirely invisible. At worst it will be like playing The Hidden, at best you will see constant air shimmer and outline of the scouts form.
And that's without considering the fact that the cloak doesn't reduce your scan profile, so you can still be picked up on a suit's passive scanners or with an active scanner. Your physical shape might be hard to see, but the red arrow over where your head should be? That isn't cloaked. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2014.01.11 11:56:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Paladin Sas wrote:if the cloak is not scout specific... why is noone worried about the cloaked logi droping REs? Isn't the cloak an equipment? I'd imagine using another equipment item would disable the cloaking effect.
shhh dont tell people my plan......
im going to be the ultimate dust terrorist |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.11 12:15:00 -
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if its seeable like crysis or predator it won't be OP, if CCP copouts and just makes you straight up not there, it'll be OP. Its sounds farfetched to say you'll be straight up invisible but its CCP we're talking about.
Also, just realise cloaks are gonna cause scanners to be even more common. That isn't exactly good.
That's "MR." Pothead to you.
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2014.01.11 12:18:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:It's a free kill.
A kill must be earned is how I think about it.
If there is an option for a free kill, that item or weapon needs to be nerfed until you actually have to work for that.
Thale's included.
As annoying as snipers are cat. They.. along with shotty users have yet to break a FPS game. And they have been staples of FPS games since the very beginning. |
Zelorian Dexter snr
Nex Miles Militis
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Posted - 2014.01.11 12:41:00 -
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I think you will find any action other than moving will break the cloak. They will also have cool downs before they can be activated again. Sure they will be invisible to the eye but they will still make noise. So as the current active / passive scan works on sound detection Db they will still be picked up. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2014.01.11 12:51:00 -
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all I'm thinking is this scenerio "mollerz sneaks behind heavy and stabs it to death. heavy calls his buddies over to catch and avenge him. Mollerz hit's cloak and vengeance is denied. Rinse and repeat. because of the process for cloaking and taking out enemies one at a time, mollerz goes 15-1 (sniper picked him off) still behind the leaders in kill count at end of match.
Now mollerz goes to forums to find threads like "CLOAK IS OP!!!" Mollerz is then forced to write a letter of apology after every stealth kill he makes. regardless if he's cloaked on not.
snipers are also forced to sit on time out for 2min after each sniper kill"
*thats scary...*
This is dust. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.01.11 13:06:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Cat Merc wrote:It's a free kill.
A kill must be earned is how I think about it.
If there is an option for a free kill, that item or weapon needs to be nerfed until you actually have to work for that.
Thale's included. As annoying as snipers are cat. They.. along with shotty users have yet to break a FPS game. And they have been staples of FPS games since the very beginning.
They didn't break them because they were designed properly.
I never had problems with shotgunners because they had clear limits, and they had no way to avoid engaging people outside of that limit.
Snipers? They could just sit some place safe miles away.
HOWEVER, in games like Battlefield, there is bullet drop and bullet travel time, making it a lot harder than point and shoot, and that's why they are balanced in those games.
In this game you can be completely safe, doing massive damage with extreme ease.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Criteria Shipment
Blood Unit 13
Zero-Day
715
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Posted - 2014.01.11 13:08:00 -
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Dust getting turned into cawadootz.
Goodbye, world!
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