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Aizen Intiki
Hell's Gate Inc
League of Infamy
655
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:08:00 -
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Thought of a way to make missiles balanced:
Step one: Take away missile full auto (it'll be semo-auto), slow down the ROF, and give it slight tracking. Slightly buff direct damage. keep splash the same.
Step two: Create a new turret type, call them Rockets, give them full auto, but slightly less missiles per mag, dumbfire, less damage than missiles (both splash and direct), but mkae splash radius higher.
step three: Watch as likes are thrown at you.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1426
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:15:00 -
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Are missiles really that problematic? I get killed by one once in a blue moon.
1.8 Analysis - Sentinel Damage Efficiency Calcs
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Aizen Intiki
Hell's Gate Inc
League of Infamy
655
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:17:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Are missiles really that problematic? I get killed by one once in a blue moon.
Because nobody has figured out yet that they're OP. Pokey, trust me when I say this, they are monsters.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1427
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:21:00 -
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Oh I know, I use them all the time, I just never have issues surviving them. People are just idiots and sit still with their hardener off while the missile tank lines up the shot. I dont blame the turret for being OP, I blame the pilot for making it easy to kill them.
1.8 Analysis - Sentinel Damage Efficiency Calcs
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lDocHollidayl
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
433
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:23:00 -
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Like many things in this game, before one asks for the nerf hammer, understand the weapon and all its skills.
OP often feels OP until you discover the SP sinks and vulnerability of said situation. An assault dropship with proto type missiles can seem OP...especially when infantry never bring out AV. But 1 forge gun and the dropship leaves. One railgun turret and the dropship dies.
No one sees a LAV with a missile turret wrecking players day. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3506
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:24:00 -
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1. Missiles aren't OP, the rest of the small turrets just royally suck, as usual.
2. Making them semi-auto wouldn't do ****. The fire rate is already so slow that they practically are already.
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Aizen Intiki
Hell's Gate Inc
League of Infamy
656
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:26:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Oh I know, I use them all the time, I just never have issues surviving them. People are just idiots and sit still with their hardener off while the missile tank lines up the shot. I dont blame the turret for being OP, I blame the pilot for making it easy to kill them.
I was somehow able to get on another team of a friend of mine, told him to call out a Maddy, and let me see if I could 1 burst him. With 2 hardeners on, and him moving (wouldn't been fun otherwise), I still 1 bursted him. They are OP.
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Aizen Intiki
Hell's Gate Inc
League of Infamy
656
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:28:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:1. Missiles aren't OP, the rest of the small turrets just royally suck, as usual.
2. Making them semi-auto wouldn't do ****. The fire rate is already so slow that they practically are already.
Not small, large. Smalls aren't really OP, and yes I agree that the rest suck. Maybe this should be a variation of the Large ones only?
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Aizen Intiki
Hell's Gate Inc
League of Infamy
656
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:29:00 -
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lDocHollidayl wrote:Like many things in this game, before one asks for the nerf hammer, understand the weapon and all its skills.
OP often feels OP until you discover the SP sinks and vulnerability of said situation. An assault dropship with proto type missiles can seem OP...especially when infantry never bring out AV. But 1 forge gun and the dropship leaves. One railgun turret and the dropship dies.
No one sees a LAV with a missile turret wrecking players day.
Why is everyone think I'm talking about small missiles lol
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
104
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:32:00 -
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missiles are not OP. as soon as1 missile from your volley misses a tank its going to live.
missiles are far worse at fighting double shield hardnered tanks than blasters are mainly mainly due to shields resiistng 20-30% base explosive damage befor hardners.
if you catch any tank off guard with modded at-xt missiles it will be 1 volleyed. but these are ridicluos hard to aim and kill targets with.
hitting infantry is a challenge and is satisying if you hit them.
so no missiles are not OP.
they have low tracking and slow reloading and basically reley on that 1 volley to kill. and if a missile misses enemy tank lives.
missiles : currently fine. |
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Aizen Intiki
Hell's Gate Inc
League of Infamy
656
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:37:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:missiles are not OP. as soon as1 missile from your volley misses a tank its going to live.
missiles are far worse at fighting double shield hardnered tanks than blasters are mainly mainly due to shields resiistng 20-30% base explosive damage befor hardners.
if you catch any tank off guard with modded at-xt missiles it will be 1 volleyed. but these are ridicluos hard to aim and kill targets with.
hitting infantry is a challenge and is satisying if you hit them.
so no missiles are not OP.
they have low tracking and slow reloading and basically reley on that 1 volley to kill. and if a missile misses enemy tank lives.
missiles : currently fine.
1: I've had no trouble with not missing. I also got rapid reload.
2: I can easily pop shield hardened Gunnlogi's with a ST missile launcher. I usually use the AT. I haven't used the XT yet.
3: read #1
4: I said nothing about infantry. fighting infantry is balanced with missiles.
5: I just proved twice that it is.
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
364
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:48:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:5: I just proved twice that it is.
*winces*
Ugh, don't use the word "proof" when your only evidence is anecdotes.
But honestly, Aizen, maybe it's only your aim that's OP. 
Amarr HAV Speculation
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Aizen Intiki
Hell's Gate Inc
League of Infamy
656
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:52:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:5: I just proved twice that it is.
*winces* Ugh, don't use the word "proof" when your only evidence is anecdotes. But honestly, Godin, maybe it's only your aim that's OP.
Nope, I've seen others who have caught on as well. Also, fixed 
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
365
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:35:00 -
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My tanker alt skilled into missiles and in my first game and first use of them, I volleyed a Soma or Madrugar into DUST. After that, my missile turret began to sputter and I started to have to "feather" R1 to get it to fire as fast as it should, and started to miss more or not fire fast enough, causing tanks to survive and then kill me during the reload.
Maybe I just do not deserve them.
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Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
1062
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:37:00 -
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Missiles are perfectly balanced. So are blasters.
But railguns are OP and iWin buttons.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Aizen Intiki
Hell's Gate Inc
League of Infamy
658
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:51:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:My tanker alt skilled into missiles and in my first game and first use of them, I volleyed a Soma or Madrugar into DUST. After that, my missile turret began to sputter and I started to have to "feather" R1 to get it to fire as fast as it should, and started to miss more or not fire fast enough, causing tanks to survive and then kill me during the reload.
Maybe I just do not deserve them.
That's a glitch.
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Aizen Intiki
Hell's Gate Inc
League of Infamy
658
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:52:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Missiles are perfectly balanced. So are blasters.
But railguns are OP and iWin buttons.
I've already explained why they aren't, and haven't seen proof to the contrary.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1017
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:55:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Thought of a way to make missiles balanced:
Step one: Take away missile full auto (it'll be semo-auto), slow down the ROF, and give it slight tracking. Slightly buff direct damage. keep splash the same.
Step two: Create a new turret type, call them Rockets, give them full auto, but slightly less missiles per mag, dumbfire, less damage than missiles (both splash and direct), but mkae splash radius higher.
step three: Watch as likes are thrown at you.
Call them rockets? Lol.
Rockets exist in EVE. They are short range missiles. Sorry, idea already taken. Just needs to be implemented in DUST. But, then so do ammo types too.
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Aizen Intiki
Hell's Gate Inc
League of Infamy
658
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:57:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:Thought of a way to make missiles balanced:
Step one: Take away missile full auto (it'll be semo-auto), slow down the ROF, and give it slight tracking. Slightly buff direct damage. keep splash the same.
Step two: Create a new turret type, call them Rockets, give them full auto, but slightly less missiles per mag, dumbfire, less damage than missiles (both splash and direct), but mkae splash radius higher.
step three: Watch as likes are thrown at you. Call them rockets? Lol. Rockets exist in EVE. They are short range missiles. Sorry, idea already taken. Just needs to be implemented in DUST. But, then so do ammo types too.
That's where I got the idea from actually.
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I like chocolate ^___^
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