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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5454	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:26:00 - [1] - Quote I've seen people say it's quite useless. And on the surface it looks useless. But.... if I had it in my assault suit... I run a single complex armor rep, so the time it takes me to regenerate to full health: 504 HP / 6.25 HP/s =~ 80 seconds If I had that 1hp/s: 504 / 7.25 =~ 69 So I shave off 11 seconds from restoring my armor. If you don't want it, I will gladly take it Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Eltra Ardell Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 279	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:27:00 - [2] - Quote Cool story
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5456	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:28:00 - [3] - Quote Eltra Ardell wrote: Cool story Indeed it is. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1940	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:29:00 - [4] - Quote Heck, the new Amarr bonus seems awesome but they wanna throw it away. People just don't care bout repping. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5456	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:31:00 - [5] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Heck, the new Amarr bonus seems awesome but they wanna throw it away. People just don't care bout repping. Well, compared to 25% armor plates, it's not much IMHO. They should be switched, Gal get repair and Amarr get plates (racial logic), and then up the bonus to like 40% or 50%. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2752	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:33:00 - [6] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Heck, the new Amarr bonus seems awesome but they wanna throw it away. People just don't care bout repping. Well, compared to 25% armor plates, it's not much IMHO. They should be switched, Gal get repair and Amarr get plates (racial logic), and then up the bonus to like 40% or 50%. Wow....I can't believe I'm saying this but.....good idea Proud member of the Commando 6 <3 Commando AK.0
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5456	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:34:00 - [7] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Heck, the new Amarr bonus seems awesome but they wanna throw it away. People just don't care bout repping. Well, compared to 25% armor plates, it's not much IMHO. They should be switched, Gal get repair and Amarr get plates (racial logic), and then up the bonus to like 40% or 50%. Wow....I can't believe I'm saying this but.....good idea Of course it is. I'm a cat. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5457	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:42:00 - [8] - Quote meow Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1940	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:56:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Heck, the new Amarr bonus seems awesome but they wanna throw it away. People just don't care bout repping. Well, compared to 25% armor plates, it's not much IMHO. They should be switched, Gal get repair and Amarr get plates (racial logic), and then up the bonus to like 40% or 50%. I'd swap, Amarr is meant to have a ton of ehp anyway(actually they are meant to have a ton of armour) so it makes sense. I'd be happy with repping 15 armour per sec. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5457	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:56:00 - [10] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Heck, the new Amarr bonus seems awesome but they wanna throw it away. People just don't care bout repping. Well, compared to 25% armor plates, it's not much IMHO. They should be switched, Gal get repair and Amarr get plates (racial logic), and then up the bonus to like 40% or 50%. I'd swap, Amarr is meant to have a ton of ehp anyway(actually they are meant to have a ton of armour) so it makes sense. I'd be happy with repping 15 armour per sec. Yup, I'm a Gallente and I would use both suits because both bonuses would be great. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos

Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1733	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:00:00 - [11] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I've seen people say it's quite useless. And on the surface it looks useless. But.... if I had it on my assault suit... I run a single complex armor rep, so the time it takes me to regenerate to full health: 504 HP / 6.25 HP/s =~ 80 seconds If I had that 1hp/s: 504 / 7.25 =~ 69 seconds So I shave off 11 seconds from restoring my armor. If you don't want it, I will gladly take it You have the low slots to make it work. I only have two. No reason to run armor + repair because I lose my speed. No reason to run repair without more than base armor. Now you see the dilemma. For us, the base 1hp/s isn't useless, it's just not enough to matter. It takes me 80 seconds to restore half my armor. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5458	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:04:00 - [12] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I've seen people say it's quite useless. And on the surface it looks useless. But.... if I had it on my assault suit... I run a single complex armor rep, so the time it takes me to regenerate to full health: 504 HP / 6.25 HP/s =~ 80 seconds If I had that 1hp/s: 504 / 7.25 =~ 69 seconds So I shave off 11 seconds from restoring my armor. If you don't want it, I will gladly take it You have the low slots to make it work. I only have two. No reason to run armor + repair because I lose my speed. No reason to run repair without more than base armor. Now you see the dilemma. For us, the base 1hp/s isn't useless, it's just not enough to matter. It takes me 80 seconds to restore half my armor. It's better than nothing. Most suits have to fit an armor repairer just to have 2/5th of their total HP regen. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 539	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:12:00 - [13] - Quote The fact is though, Cat, that a Minmatar assault can't fit a complex rep without a lot of sacrifice because we only get 2 low slots on adv and proto suits, shields suck compared plates, and "speed tanking" in a assault suit is a laughable concept with TTK as it is now. So CCP has pretty much forced minmatar assaults to put 2 plates on our suits to even come close to the EHP of other assault, basically leaving most of us repping at 1 HP/sec.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 539	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:15:00 - [14] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I've seen people say it's quite useless. And on the surface it looks useless. But.... if I had it on my assault suit... I run a single complex armor rep, so the time it takes me to regenerate to full health: 504 HP / 6.25 HP/s =~ 80 seconds If I had that 1hp/s: 504 / 7.25 =~ 69 seconds So I shave off 11 seconds from restoring my armor. If you don't want it, I will gladly take it You have the low slots to make it work. I only have two. No reason to run armor + repair because I lose my speed. No reason to run repair without more than base armor. Now you see the dilemma. For us, the base 1hp/s isn't useless, it's just not enough to matter. It takes me 80 seconds to restore half my armor. I must have been mid-typing as you posted LOL. Try putting 2 enhanced plates on your suit and squeeze on K/17 hives if you can. I haven't found our speed advantage all too advantageous since aim assist, hit detection, and kill everything they point at rifles anyway.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1419	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:21:00 - [15] - Quote Maybe it's just because I'm a heavy, but I don't get all this hate against armor repair. Do you guys only plan on living through one fight? Does everyone in the game have a personal logi armor repping sherpa except me? Do you guys just hump the supply depot the whole match and hope reds come to you? If you don't repair armor, you WILL die. It's a matter of battle attrition. Take your free 1hp/s repair point and shaddap. <3 Armor Reps I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 541	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:28:00 - [16] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Maybe it's just because I'm a heavy, but I don't get all this hate against armor repair. Do you guys only plan on living through one fight? Does everyone in the game have a personal logi armor repping sherpa except me? Do you guys just hump the supply depot the whole match and hope reds come to you? If you don't repair armor, you WILL die. It's a matter of battle attrition. Take your free 1hp/s repair point and shaddap. <3 Armor Reps I <3 armor repair, thus I'm truly bummed about my logi suits probably losing their armor reps. On just about any suit I run I try to fit at least 1 enhanced plate and 1 enhanced rep, but I just can't do it with my minmatar assault because I really feel like I need the 2 plates and I only have 2 low slots
Galthur CrimeWave Syndicate 220	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:28:00 - [17] - Quote All Gallente in favor of taking the Minmatar armor regen say I. Seasoned players never left academy because it did not exist, that's why we fight alongside and against noobs.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1941	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:36:00 - [18] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Maybe it's just because I'm a heavy, but I don't get all this hate against armor repair. Do you guys only plan on living through one fight? Does everyone in the game have a personal logi armor repping sherpa except me? Do you guys just hump the supply depot the whole match and hope reds come to you? If you don't repair armor, you WILL die. It's a matter of battle attrition. Take your free 1hp/s repair point and shaddap. <3 Armor Reps Yeah, I don't get why people hate them. Also are you suppose to engage anyone with only 8 hp? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1298	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:40:00 - [19] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Heck, the new Amarr bonus seems awesome but they wanna throw it away. People just don't care bout repping. Well, compared to 25% armor plates, it's not much IMHO. They should be switched, Gal get repair and Amarr get plates (racial logic), and then up the bonus to like 40% or 50%. Yup, me thinks the dust team havn't done their homework. "We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1411	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:40:00 - [20] - Quote For one, Amarr and Gallente bonuses should be reversed to by synonymous with EVE. Secondly that 1HP/sec is great for just maintenance. WIth the removal of the armor repair bonus on Logistics suits, I'd very much like to see a similar passive repair built into some of the logistics suits. Not a full +5/sec of course, but 1 or 2 would be swell. Sadly the reason people don't like repair bonuses is because generally speaking a Basic armor plate with 65HP is worth a lot more than 2HP/second. Percentage bonuses are bad for armor repairers because they have such a small base value that the benefit is tiny. I'd suggest a significant increase to the %/level for armor repair efficacy. ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes



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