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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.01.09 09:48:00 -
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So I'm getting ready for a PC with some of my favorite people I squad with. He's been telling me how much he needs me in this battle and I even set apart time to get ready for this thing so that I wouldn't disappoint him.
About an hour beforehand we're starting to create squads and he invites a member from Team Players into the squad. Apparently he has good connections with them and was able to get a couple guys to help out in case we went in without a full 16. Cool. I'm fine with that.
Then we have 4 TP guys in the chat channel and I'm starting to wonder what's going on. All I hear over comms is some guy talking about how this person or that person would be great to be in this PC battle and now I'm feeling uneasy. We already had a lineup of 16 players designated for our PC battle. I'm okay with 1-2 of them subbing in for players that didn't make it, but I don't want to make it look like we're relying on TP to win battles for us.
I start publically talking to the FC for the battle (one of the guys I enjoy squadding up with all the time) about who was going to be in this PC, and questioning why all these players from TP were here. Before I can even finish my thought one of them interrupts me and asks if I'm racist towards TP.
What the heck? He then starts saying that he wants to pull in yet another player, a proto tanker. At this point I told the FC that I was making some fittings with uplinks and stuff, and then someone else says something about a dropship and getting uplinks all around the city. I personally like my game experience, and didn't want to play another laggy PC, so I told them not to drop so many.
But that's when it all really went downhill because then that same guy from earlier tells me it only lags the enemy team if YOUR TEAM drops a bunch of uplinks. Really? So in every PC that I've been in so far, the other team does this specifically so that our side ends up with such horrible lag that we lose because we can't even play? I'm sorry, but I don't play unfair like that. According to him, "it's how you win".
I just...how is this even okay? How is it right? Why would anyone even want to play alongside people with this attitude? I've never had a reason to dislike TP before this, but now I just feel sad that this is what it all comes down to.
And worst of all, the FC, the one person who I've played with day after day, for months, with so many wins in our history, who keeps telling me he needs me, thinks that I'm replaceable for people with the mindset like this.
In case you were wondering, I was supposed to be the logi repping all of the heavies in that match. They replaced me with that tanker from earlier. Of course.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1019
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Posted - 2014.01.09 09:53:00 -
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This is why I dont play dust anymore.
Broken, stupid game where abusing makes you win.
Doesnt matter in Dust 514: PC. FW Standing. Tanking Type. Other mods than DMG or HP.
Does matter in Dust 514: Rifles.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
1803
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Posted - 2014.01.09 09:53:00 -
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Good you should not have anything against teamplayers, you should have something against your FC and the people that invited the TP into the chat from my point of view
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meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
658
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Posted - 2014.01.09 09:56:00 -
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Playing unfair is sadly a very common thing in New Eden, trust me. Our TS was attacked during fleets, people get's fleetspamed and a very lot more. And of course this is not the way it should be.
PS: I'm a logi as well.
My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
115
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Posted - 2014.01.09 10:01:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:So I'm getting ready for a PC with some of my favorite people I squad with. He's been telling me how much he needs me in this battle and I even set apart time to get ready for this thing so that I wouldn't disappoint him.
About an hour beforehand we're starting to create squads and he invites a member from Team Players into the squad. Apparently he has good connections with them and was able to get a couple guys to help out in case we went in without a full 16. Cool. I'm fine with that.
Then we have 4 TP guys in the chat channel and I'm starting to wonder what's going on. All I hear over comms is some guy talking about how this person or that person would be great to be in this PC battle and now I'm feeling uneasy. We already had a lineup of 16 players designated for our PC battle. I'm okay with 1-2 of them subbing in for players that didn't make it, but I don't want to make it look like we're relying on TP to win battles for us.
I start publically talking to the FC for the battle (one of the guys I enjoy squadding up with all the time) about who was going to be in this PC, and questioning why all these players from TP were here. Before I can even finish my thought one of them interrupts me and asks if I'm racist towards TP.
What the heck? He then starts saying that he wants to pull in yet another player, a proto tanker. At this point I told the FC that I was making some fittings with uplinks and stuff, and then someone else says something about a dropship and getting uplinks all around the city. I personally like my game experience, and didn't want to play another laggy PC, so I told them not to drop so many.
But that's when it all really went downhill because then that same guy from earlier tells me it only lags the enemy team if YOUR TEAM drops a bunch of uplinks. Really? So in every PC that I've been in so far, the other team does this specifically so that our side ends up with such horrible lag that we lose because we can't even play? I'm sorry, but I don't play unfair like that. According to him, "it's how you win".
I just...how is this even okay? How is it right? Why would anyone even want to play alongside people with this attitude? I've never had a reason to dislike TP before this, but now I just feel sad that this is what it all comes down to.
And worst of all, the FC, the one person who I've played with day after day, for months, with so many wins in our history, who keeps telling me he needs me, thinks that I'm replaceable for people with the mindset like this.
In case you were wondering, I was supposed to be the logi repping all of the heavies in that match. They replaced me with that tanker from earlier. Of course. Welcome to PC were have you been people will stop at nothing to win a video game i have been saying that corps are droping lag bombs all the time i don't know about TP i never have lag with them but some corps you play there is lag every time they show up. Its why when you see them in pub games they have no gun game.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2549
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Posted - 2014.01.09 10:04:00 -
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So you got booted cause you don't follow the mold?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
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Timothy Reaper
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
727
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Posted - 2014.01.09 10:14:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:This is why I dont play dust anymore.
Broken, stupid game where abusing makes you win. My corp did have a PC district, but most of time the enemy pulled the lag trick. When we finally lost it to a particularly lag-happy bunch, the general feeling was 'good riddance!'
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Mark Twain
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
1845
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Posted - 2014.01.09 10:18:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:So you got booted cause you don't follow the mold?
I left out of my own choice.
They tried to tell me things like "we're all on the same team right now" and "It's not like we have anything against you".
But I don't want to play with people using unfair tactics. It's just not as fun to win that way. I would rather lose a really good fight when we were both fighting fair than win unfairly.
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Dengru
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
369
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Posted - 2014.01.09 10:28:00 -
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What's the point of this thread, your feelings?
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1273
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Posted - 2014.01.09 10:35:00 -
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Nyan teach this: spam everything that can be spammed -_-
"Our Blueberries are better than yours"
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Chief-Shotty
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
100
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Posted - 2014.01.09 10:43:00 -
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Just the nature of gaming. People will find anything they can find to give them an advantage. Aim-bot, hacks, glitches, exploits, modded controller etc, etc.
(Especially you modded controller users. YOU PEOPLE KNOW WHO YOU ARE. Not you the one with a standard pad, your cool, YOU WITH THE SPECIAL CHIP IN HIS, YEAH, YOU BUDDY WE SEE YOU!! )
Is it fair? Yes and No. Does the game allow you to---yes. Was the game design intent on allowing said exploits as part of the game--no, unless game design allows to a certain extent but only if part of the game. This is why i am reluctant to play PC. Many corps will use exploits such as the uplink spam and lag that affects the other team. Not fair and not cool but i guess winning is winning. Many players will win by any means, even if its cheating, and then boast about how good they are.
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1450
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Posted - 2014.01.09 10:43:00 -
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honestly this has been going on since the begining of PC. i don't get why you are posting this.
Main - BobThe843CakeMan
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Prices are based on who ur facing and how i feel.
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
472
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Posted - 2014.01.09 11:04:00 -
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interesting read. Corps with not many powerful players will always hire a stronger corp to defend themselves. Some pay top isk for ringers in order to keep their district, that is one of the many aspects of how planetary conquest runs. i sometimes ring for people but it is usually for the alliance. |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1019
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Posted - 2014.01.09 11:11:00 -
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Timothy Reaper wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:This is why I dont play dust anymore.
Broken, stupid game where abusing makes you win. My corp did have a PC district, but most of time the enemy pulled the lag trick. When we finally lost it to a particularly lag-happy bunch, the general feeling was 'good riddance!'
People lag bomb to win districts, and then lock the districts to not get attacked. PC is such a skill based game. Almost makes me think only the average players are still playing this game now. Competitive game, my ass.
Ill be in Elder Scrolls Online later this year. At least that game will have more content at release. And large scale pvp.
Doesnt matter in Dust 514: PC. FW Standing. Tanking Type. Other mods than DMG or HP.
Does matter in Dust 514: Rifles.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1019
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Posted - 2014.01.09 11:14:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Michael Arck wrote:So you got booted cause you don't follow the mold? I left out of my own choice. They tried to tell me things like "we're all on the same team right now" and "It's not like we have anything against you". But I don't want to play with people using unfair tactics. It's just not as fun to win that way. I would rather lose a really good fight when we were both fighting fair than win unfairly.
Do the right thing and stop playing Dust in protest. So many other games to play in the meantime until the game is out of beta stage.
Doesnt matter in Dust 514: PC. FW Standing. Tanking Type. Other mods than DMG or HP.
Does matter in Dust 514: Rifles.
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4538
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Posted - 2014.01.09 11:19:00 -
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And here comes the inevitable butt hurt about names being thrown out.
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Blaze Ashra
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.09 11:41:00 -
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From how it sounds to me, they're not talking about using the lag bomb, just doing what I do and putting uplinks in areas that they can get to the objectives quickly so they can keep striking at different points while clearing the field. And what is the point of uplinks if not to set a position to spawn on? If you want to hike the 300+ meters to the objective then dont spawn on an uplink.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.01.09 11:43:00 -
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The most important thing, of course - did your team win, in the end?
In other words, were their actions justified? (In that limited context, I mean?)
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Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD)
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Faquira Bleuetta
0uter.Heaven
143
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Posted - 2014.01.09 11:48:00 -
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playing this game in fairness should get u platinum trophy achievement All's fair in love and war |
ResistanceGTA
Valor Tactical Operations Immortal Coalition of New-Eden
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Posted - 2014.01.09 11:53:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:The most important thing, of course - did your team win, in the end?
In other words, were their actions justified? (In that limited context, I mean?)
^This...
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
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Posted - 2014.01.09 11:55:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:The most important thing, of course - did your team win, in the end?
In other words, were their actions justified? (In that limited context, I mean?)
No idea. I got off the game and will probably find out tomorrow. Honestly, I don't even care. I rarely take part in PC, and only did this once because he said he needed me.
He keeps saying I should join his corp, but I like my nameless one better.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
2001
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Posted - 2014.01.09 11:57:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:So I'm getting ready for a PC with some of my favorite people I squad with. He's been telling me how much he needs me in this battle and I even set apart time to get ready for this thing so that I wouldn't disappoint him.
About an hour beforehand we're starting to create squads and he invites a member from Team Players into the squad. Apparently he has good connections with them and was able to get a couple guys to help out in case we went in without a full 16. Cool. I'm fine with that.
Then we have 4 TP guys in the chat channel and I'm starting to wonder what's going on. All I hear over comms is some guy talking about how this person or that person would be great to be in this PC battle and now I'm feeling uneasy. We already had a lineup of 16 players designated for our PC battle. I'm okay with 1-2 of them subbing in for players that didn't make it, but I don't want to make it look like we're relying on TP to win battles for us.
I start publically talking to the FC for the battle (one of the guys I enjoy squadding up with all the time) about who was going to be in this PC, and questioning why all these players from TP were here. Before I can even finish my thought one of them interrupts me and asks if I'm racist towards TP.
What the heck? He then starts saying that he wants to pull in yet another player, a proto tanker. At this point I told the FC that I was making some fittings with uplinks and stuff, and then someone else says something about a dropship and getting uplinks all around the city. I personally like my game experience, and didn't want to play another laggy PC, so I told them not to drop so many.
But that's when it all really went downhill because then that same guy from earlier tells me it only lags the enemy team if YOUR TEAM drops a bunch of uplinks. Really? So in every PC that I've been in so far, the other team does this specifically so that our side ends up with such horrible lag that we lose because we can't even play? I'm sorry, but I don't play unfair like that. According to him, "it's how you win".
I just...how is this even okay? How is it right? Why would anyone even want to play alongside people with this attitude? I've never had a reason to dislike TP before this, but now I just feel sad that this is what it all comes down to.
And worst of all, the FC, the one person who I've played with day after day, for months, with so many wins in our history, who keeps telling me he needs me, thinks that I'm replaceable for people with the mindset like this.
In case you were wondering, I was supposed to be the logi repping all of the heavies in that match. They replaced me with that tanker from earlier. Of course.
This is why pc is a joke and always will be.
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1791
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Posted - 2014.01.09 11:58:00 -
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Now you know why PC is looked down upon, why the majority of us would rather see it gone than take part in it. It's a disgrace.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
Use the Commando A-I suit and show your worth.
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Oswald Rehnquist
1023
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Posted - 2014.01.09 12:02:00 -
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Its actually a subtle benefit that fw payout is low at the moment, as long as they keep this in PC and out of FW I'm good, which FW rewards have pushed them out.
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843-BANE
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
249
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Posted - 2014.01.09 12:17:00 -
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Sounds like you're in the wrong corp, bud!
Director // Ranking Officer // BurgezzE.T.F
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
1853
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Posted - 2014.01.09 12:40:00 -
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843-BANE wrote:Sounds like you're in the wrong corp, bud!
Look at my corp My corp tag is "SHAYZ" We have 1 member.
I am in a nameless corp, created by me, my corp.
I am actually in the RIGHT corp :P
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
394
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Posted - 2014.01.09 12:58:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:So I'm getting ready for a PC with some of my favorite people I squad with. He's been telling me how much he needs me in this battle and I even set apart time to get ready for this thing so that I wouldn't disappoint him.
About an hour beforehand we're starting to create squads and he invites a member from Team Players into the squad. Apparently he has good connections with them and was able to get a couple guys to help out in case we went in without a full 16. Cool. I'm fine with that.
Then we have 4 TP guys in the chat channel and I'm starting to wonder what's going on. All I hear over comms is some guy talking about how this person or that person would be great to be in this PC battle and now I'm feeling uneasy. We already had a lineup of 16 players designated for our PC battle. I'm okay with 1-2 of them subbing in for players that didn't make it, but I don't want to make it look like we're relying on TP to win battles for us.
I start publically talking to the FC for the battle (one of the guys I enjoy squadding up with all the time) about who was going to be in this PC, and questioning why all these players from TP were here. Before I can even finish my thought one of them interrupts me and asks if I'm racist towards TP.
What the heck? He then starts saying that he wants to pull in yet another player, a proto tanker. At this point I told the FC that I was making some fittings with uplinks and stuff, and then someone else says something about a dropship and getting uplinks all around the city. I personally like my game experience, and didn't want to play another laggy PC, so I told them not to drop so many.
But that's when it all really went downhill because then that same guy from earlier tells me it only lags the enemy team if YOUR TEAM drops a bunch of uplinks. Really? So in every PC that I've been in so far, the other team does this specifically so that our side ends up with such horrible lag that we lose because we can't even play? I'm sorry, but I don't play unfair like that. According to him, "it's how you win".
I just...how is this even okay? How is it right? Why would anyone even want to play alongside people with this attitude? I've never had a reason to dislike TP before this, but now I just feel sad that this is what it all comes down to.
And worst of all, the FC, the one person who I've played with day after day, for months, with so many wins in our history, who keeps telling me he needs me, thinks that I'm replaceable for people with the mindset like this.
In case you were wondering, I was supposed to be the logi repping all of the heavies in that match. They replaced me with that tanker from earlier. Of course.
Corp should come first! And yeah, uplink spam is CHEAP. May be how some WIN, but our team does more than enough winning without a crutch.
And DDB is always looking for slayers.
Nuff Said
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
1857
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Posted - 2014.01.09 13:10:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote: Corp should come first! And yeah, uplink spam is CHEAP. May be how some WIN, but our team does more than enough winning without a crutch.
And DDB is always looking for slayers.
I was actually invited to your corp twice and denied both offers.
Personally, I work alone, but I'm no slayer. There are definitely times I've done well killing, but I enjoy support much more (especially now that heavies are back)
This is me at my best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9OUEQFfao0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1011
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Posted - 2014.01.09 13:15:00 -
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This is why I don't bother playing with other ppl. Most of these ret*ards I'd probably beat down with a reed in RL. They are such low end ppl. This really is the mentality these ppl carry with them in RL. there is no "only because it's a game" mentality. I don't suddenly become cheap because it's a game. Good sportsmanship applies.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
1160
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Posted - 2014.01.09 13:33:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:This is why I don't bother playing with other ppl. Most of these ret*ards I'd probably beat down with a reed in RL. They are such low end ppl. This really is the mentality these ppl carry with them in RL. there is no "only because it's a game" mentality. I don't suddenly become cheap because it's a game. Good sportsmanship applies.
Ironically, good sportsmanship is most valued in games.
Of a different sort, admittedly... But perhaps there's something to be learned from those other games?
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Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD)
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