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![Zekain K Zekain K](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
999
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:28:00 -
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Let's talk about cloaked commandos, logis, and assaults.
K thnxs.
Everyone will use it with everything. The ability to not be seen is a massive advantage to those who use it. Just because the scout suits get the cloaking bonus does not mean they will be the best suits to use it.
A cloaked gal logi perma scanning everything. A glass cannon caldari assault stacking 4 damage mods that only reveals himself to pop you. Cloaked commandos kicking fat ass.
Ghost operated lavs.
CALDARI not so MASTER RACE
Forum Warrior Level: 10
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![Aero Yassavi Aero Yassavi](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Aero Yassavi
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
4552
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:38:00 -
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Cloaked Commandos, lol. Considering how much the cloak is going to cost in CPU/PG, I highly doubt the Commando will be able to fit one with anything given it's low CPU/PG values.
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
No, it's Super Amarr!
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![Oswald Rehnquist Oswald Rehnquist](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Oswald Rehnquist
1016
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:42:00 -
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The gal logi is literally thy ultimate decloaking unit,
with such a hard counter, I can't image the other suits using up enough low slots to dampen their cloak unit to anything significant to bypass the scanners.
Below 28 dB
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![Lt Royal Lt Royal](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2348
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:43:00 -
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IGÇÖm pretty sure theyGÇÖll just copy and paste the Covert Ops Cloaking mechanics that they currently have in EVE (that they can only be fitted to certain types of suits) and rework the fitting costs and cooldown to re cloak based on the skill of the suit/module.
Heres the Covert Ops Cloaking Device stats how it is in EVE.
Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Subdreddit Recruitment Video Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
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![The Robot Devil The Robot Devil](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
1441
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:46:00 -
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Might as well start QQing about AFK cloakers like all the null/low sec carebears. LOL
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
Hunter S. Thompson
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![Supernus Gigas Supernus Gigas](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Supernus Gigas
Star Giants
45
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Posted - 2014.01.09 07:00:00 -
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We need cloaked Heavies. Could you imagine the horror?
After a close firefight with an enemy squad you and your squad mates are beaten, barely alive. You take the time to recuperate and heal up before moving on. But out of the corner of your eye you see something. The air before you glistens with an uncomfortable malice. The distance warped by this unseen horror, just imagining what lies before you could drive a man to insanity. But before you can get the attention of your squad it's too late. Before you stands the looming mass of a Sentinel wielding Death incarnate itself. You cannot run, you cannot hide, you cannot scream. You are frozen in fear as you hear the roar of the meat grinder. You watch as your squad mates drop dead as if their very souls were ripped from their bodies. Then Death's gaze finally focuses on you, before you can react he takes you into his cold embrace. You then quickly go to the forums to QQ about invisi-Heavies.
WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE SUCH TERRIBLE IDEAS ALL THE TIME?
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![Maken Tosch Maken Tosch](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
6330
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Posted - 2014.01.09 07:07:00 -
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In the meantime, this is happening.
http://new.livestream.com/stanleyartgermlau/events/2671989
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD
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![Ryder Azorria Ryder Azorria](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
798
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Posted - 2014.01.09 07:09:00 -
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You act like actions such as firing and scanning won't have serious effects on the stability of the cloak. You also act like it will be easy to jam on to a non bonused suit. |
![Broonfondle Majikthies Broonfondle Majikthies](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
696
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Posted - 2014.01.09 08:17:00 -
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My prediction is that it will be seriously detrimental to equip more than the basic cloak to anything less than a proto suit (I imagine the more advanced ones to have more capacity and/or shorter recharge) I also speculate that the cloak will decrease charge over time, even walking will decrease the charge faster and there will still be a visual effect which will be lessened on a light suit.
I also speculate that the current scout skills for Min and Gal to change to something like less movement cost for the Min (unless there has been an update I missed I only saw the other races getting a direct cloak skill)
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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![Ryder Azorria Ryder Azorria](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
799
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Posted - 2014.01.09 08:21:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:My prediction is that it will be seriously detrimental to equip more than the basic cloak to anything less than a proto suit (I imagine the more advanced ones to have more capacity and/or shorter recharge) I also speculate that the cloak will decrease charge over time, even walking will decrease the charge faster and there will still be a visual effect which will be lessened on a light suit.
I also speculate that the current scout skills for Min and Gal to change to something like less movement cost for the Min (unless there has been an update I missed I only saw the other races getting a direct cloak skill) Well the other two do indirectly affect cloaking - Min scout can be all sneaky sneaky staby staby, while the Gal scout will be harder to scan while cloaked (and in general). |
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
696
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Posted - 2014.01.09 08:35:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:My prediction is that it will be seriously detrimental to equip more than the basic cloak to anything less than a proto suit (I imagine the more advanced ones to have more capacity and/or shorter recharge) I also speculate that the cloak will decrease charge over time, even walking will decrease the charge faster and there will still be a visual effect which will be lessened on a light suit.
I also speculate that the current scout skills for Min and Gal to change to something like less movement cost for the Min (unless there has been an update I missed I only saw the other races getting a direct cloak skill) Well the other two do indirectly affect cloaking - Min scout can be all sneaky sneaky staby staby, while the Gal scout will be harder to scan while cloaked (and in general). Oh yes I do hope the skills don't change - I love the Mins knife bonus (It actually makes it usable against heavies... currently) I simply speculated that it will change in terms of overall suit balance so a heavy can't hide in a corner indefinably or make everyone go completely unnoticed while covering ground.
I also want to add that its been proposed that the cloak give a slight decrease to suit profile (Remnant's Dev blog) Which I think would work well. If it has the same ability of a basic dampener I don't feel that will be too powerful - allowing medium frames to avoid only a basic scanner while giving a good proto scout enough to avoid proto scanners while cloaked.
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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![Charlotte O'Dell Charlotte O'Dell](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_gallente_128.jpg)
Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1507
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Posted - 2014.01.09 09:09:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:We need cloaked Heavies. Could you imagine the horror?
After a close firefight with an enemy squad you and your squad mates are beaten, barely alive. You take the time to recuperate and heal up before moving on. But out of the corner of your eye you see something. The air before you glistens with an uncomfortable malice. The distance warped by this unseen horror, just imagining what lies before you could drive a man to insanity. But before you can get the attention of your squad it's too late. Before you stands the looming mass of a Sentinel wielding Death incarnate itself. You cannot run, you cannot hide, you cannot scream. You are frozen in fear as you hear the roar of the meat grinder. You watch as your squad mates drop dead as if their very souls were ripped from their bodies. Then Death's gaze finally focuses on you, before you can react he takes you into his cold embrace. You then quickly go to the forums to QQ about invisi-Heavies.
Lol. You have earned this like.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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![KEROSIINI-TERO KEROSIINI-TERO](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
982
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Posted - 2014.01.09 09:15:00 -
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CLOAKED ROOFTOP FORGE GUNS!!!![Pirate](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_pirate.png)
Tank spam getting onto your nerves?
An improvement:
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