DUST Search - The 101 about FPS cloaks

Surt gods end wrote:

That there is a 90% your going to die if your the target of cloaked player.

70% chance that he will kill another player after killing you.

40% he's going to kill a third player.

So here are the stats. You won't see cloaked players beating any records in FPS games. They just won't get the k/d that AS or heavy put out. If your cloaked your not going into the front lines. your still going around for the flank.

Take KZ for example which had a great cloaking in place. It has changed from what it was in KZ2, and 3. As in only knives are only usable in cloak, but the stats remain the same. someone cloaked can still flank and take out two guys before dying. AND STILL WON'T BEAT THE AS OR HEAVY WHO CAN TAKE OUT MORE BEFORE DYING.

Surt Gods End Scout Notice the days I've played. Now notice my melee kills. all of which have been while cloaked.

Cloaking have yet to break a FPS game. It won't this one. BUT THEY MUST REALLY BE MORE DEFINED FOR THE SCOUT MORE THEN ANY OTHER ROLE. This game unlike other FPS has a weird FOTM thing going on, so I'll be careful at how you introduce this to other suits.

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Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1508	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:22:00 - [1] - Quote That there is a 90% your going to die if your the target of cloaked player. 70% chance that he will kill another player after killing you. 40% he's going to kill a third player. So here are the stats. You won't see cloaked players beating any records in FPS games. They just won't get the k/d that AS or heavy put out. If your cloaked your not going into the front lines. your still going around for the flank. Take KZ for example which had a great cloaking in place. It has changed from what it was in KZ2, and 3. As in only knives are only usable in cloak, but the stats remain the same. someone cloaked can still flank and take out two guys before dying. AND STILL WON'T BEAT THE AS OR HEAVY WHO CAN TAKE OUT MORE BEFORE DYING. Surt Gods End Scout Notice the days I've played. Now notice my melee kills. all of which have been while cloaked. Cloaking have yet to break a FPS game. It won't this one. BUT THEY MUST REALLY BE MORE DEFINED FOR THE SCOUT MORE THEN ANY OTHER ROLE. This game unlike other FPS has a weird FOTM thing going on, so I'll be careful at how you introduce this to other suits.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 464	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:28:00 - [2] - Quote You're forgetting the lack of ability when it comes to balancing with CCP. First, it'll be OP. Then, it'll be UP and it might stay that way fora while. I'd be surprised if it is balanced the first day of release.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1508	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:30:00 - [3] - Quote Joel II X wrote: You're forgetting the lack of ability when it comes to balancing with CCP. First, it'll be OP. Then, it'll be UP and it might stay that way fora while. I'd be surprised if it is balanced the first day of release. You beat me to it. Yeah I'll bet dust will be the first to have cloaking break a FPS huh? lol
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2348	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:38:00 - [4] - Quote IGÇÖm pretty sure theyGÇÖll just copy and paste the Covert Ops Cloaking mechanics that they currently have in EVE (that they can only be fitted to certain types of suits) and rework their cooldown to re cloak based on the skill of the suit/module. Heres the Covert Ops Cloaking Device stats how it is in EVE. Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Subdreddit Recruitment Video Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 79	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:38:00 - [5] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: That there is a 90% your going to die if your the target of cloaked player. 70% chance that he will kill another player after killing you. 40% he's going to kill a third player. So here are the stats. You won't see cloaked players beating any records in FPS games. They just won't get the k/d that AS or heavy put out. If your cloaked your not going into the front lines. your still going around for the flank. Take KZ for example which had a great cloaking in place. It has changed from what it was in KZ2, and 3. As in only knives are only usable in cloak, but the stats remain the same. someone cloaked can still flank and take out two guys before dying. AND STILL WON'T BEAT THE AS OR HEAVY WHO CAN TAKE OUT MORE BEFORE DYING. Surt Gods End Scout Notice the days I've played. Now notice my melee kills. all of which have been while cloaked. Cloaking have yet to break a FPS game. It won't this one. BUT THEY MUST REALLY BE MORE DEFINED FOR THE SCOUT MORE THEN ANY OTHER ROLE. This game unlike other FPS has a weird FOTM thing going on, so I'll be careful at how you introduce this to other suits. Scrubs don't care, they align themselves with one of the two camps, camp crutchmore or camp itkilledmethereforeitisOP.
Seeth Mensch Hawkborn Brotherhood IMMORTAL REGIME 113	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:41:00 - [6] - Quote um. Those numbers. Where do they come from? Hi! Gosh, I've missed you...with every bullet, plasma shot, rail gun, and missile.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1508	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:47:00 - [7] - Quote Seeth Mensch wrote: um. Those numbers. Where do they come from? KZ4 stats. I play mostly scout (hence my king of scouts emblem I was awarded) And almost always go cloak. They back up the stats I posted. As in I'm able to take out more then one player while cloaked. But i still don't pump out the k/d that Assault players put out. Not that k/d matters in KZ or dust, but just saying.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2476	Posted - 2014.01.09 07:09:00 - [8] - Quote 80% of all statistics are made up on the spot. All we have are the bonuses on two suits to tell us how cloaks will work. I'm saving my theory crafting for when we have more data. // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 337	Posted - 2014.01.09 07:17:00 - [9] - Quote I never had any intention of front lining as I drooled over the idea of being cloaked. I'm probably going Gal scout because I just wan't to be invisible as I go about my business. Electronic Warfare GOD in the making
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1261	Posted - 2014.01.09 07:26:00 - [10] - Quote Seeth Mensch wrote: um. Those numbers. Where do they come from? This. And as far as I know, isn't KZ knife cloaked abit OHK/ death animation. Dust doesn't have that, its doesn't have an unbreakable death animation where if you press X close enough, guy dies. I have complete faith that Dust cloaky scouts will leave themselves enough rope to be hung by the angry mob. "We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"

Aero Yassavi Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 4553	Posted - 2014.01.09 07:33:00 - [11] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: 80% of all statistics are made up on the spot. All we have are the bonuses on two suits to tell us how cloaks will work. I'm saving my theory crafting for when we have more data. If this near year old dev blog is to be believed, we also know: It only makes you mostly invisible, not completely It is undectable by enemy AI turrets You can still get scanned Moving will disrupt how cloaked you are Firing a weapon will cause the cloak to shut down It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Azura Sakura Blood Eye Ravens 546	Posted - 2014.01.09 07:42:00 - [12] - Quote In KZ3, you can fire silenced weapons while cloaked. IDK if that has changed.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 442	Posted - 2014.01.09 07:45:00 - [13] - Quote Joel II X wrote: You're forgetting the lack of ability when it comes to balancing with CCP. First, it'll be OP. Then, it'll be UP and it might stay that way fora while. I'd be surprised if it is balanced the first day of release. As this is equipment especially for scouts it may come in UP and then stay that for a while...
Dreniella Expert Intervention Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.01.09 07:48:00 - [14] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: 90% your going to die 70% chance that he will kill another player 40% he's going to kill a third player. wow -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á much accurate -á-á-á-á-á very math -á-ásuch sources -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á many reliables.
Rusty Shallows 725	Posted - 2014.01.09 07:56:00 - [15] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: 80% of all statistics are made up on the spot. All we have are the bonuses on two suits to tell us how cloaks will work. I'm saving my theory crafting for when we have more data. If this near year old dev blog is to be believed, we also know: It only makes you mostly invisible, not completely It is undectable by enemy AI turrets You can still get scanned Moving will disrupt how cloaked you are Firing a weapon will cause the cloak to shut down I was expecting it to be like Eve Online. A delay on when you can open fire after decloaking. To be honest that kind of rule in an FPS might be a bit impractical. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
dust badger SOUND Mercs Of Sound Mind 358	Posted - 2014.01.09 08:11:00 - [16] - Quote Why so many cloaking threads all of a sudden? Have they released more info ?
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1509	Posted - 2014.01.09 08:32:00 - [17] - Quote Dreniella wrote: Surt gods end wrote: 90% your going to die 70% chance that he will kill another player 40% he's going to kill a third player. wow -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á much accurate -á-á-á-á-á very math -á-ásuch sources -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á many reliables. Thanks! I try. I actually based it off of my skill and re ducted 10% for new players. I don't think Dren was complimenting you.. what you talking about? You don't see the "WOW"?


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