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Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 820	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:09:00 - [1] - Quote Why are the Gallente and Amarr backwards in term of stats? It doesn't make sense when looking at EVE and the weaponry and tactics you, CCP, encourage with racial bonuses and skills. The Amarr would be the actual Armor Tanker while the Gallente would be the hybrid tanker. I mean seriously look at the game right now. The Gallente are CQC-mid range lovers with Assault Rifles and are arguably still very mobile despite being more armor-focused. While they are flexible, they rely on intel and counter-intel to take advantage of the situation. Formations can vary as well. The Amarr are mid-long range lovers with their Scrambler Rifle and Pistol and this plays well with their inflexibility because they don't have to get up close to take down most enemies. And even if they have to get up close, their apparently intended wall formations are capable, or should be capable, of absorbing the damage and firing back. And when we take into their enemy faction's gear and how they work, it also doesn't make that much sense. Caldari have hybrid weapons but the Gallente don't dual tank. The Minmatar use explosives and projectiles yet the Amarr dual-tank. It's quite confusing and I'm sure most of the community would love a Dev-Post about this even if it's just short and ends with a "Soon." "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Hyborean Strain Immortal Guides 16	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:12:00 - [2] - Quote I was confused by this as well. Shield tanking Amarr just feels kinda... dirty.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5412	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:41:00 - [3] - Quote Give Gallente a 100% bonus to armor repairers. huehuehuehuehuehuehuehue Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Aero Yassavi Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 4478	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:50:00 - [4] - Quote You know what the best part is? In EVE, since Amarr are the heavy armor tankers they are made slow for balance, and since the Gallente are armor rep tankers they are made fast in order to take advantage of the armor reps. In Dust 514 the roles are swapped, Gallente are the heavy armor tankers and Amarr are the armor rep tankers, yet Amarr are still slow and Gallente are still fast. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5454	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:53:00 - [5] - Quote Yeah that sounds about right. We aren't just heavy armour tankers , we are heavy armour resistance tankers. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Aero Yassavi Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 4478	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:55:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Yeah that sounds about right. We aren't just heavy armour tankers , we are heavy armour resistance tankers. Sup It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Aisha Ctarl Pradox One Proficiency V. 2764	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:59:00 - [7] - Quote Because CCP forgot how EVE works and it would make for too much sense to mirror tanking styles between the games. Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
Aero Yassavi Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 4480	Posted - 2014.01.08 18:02:00 - [8] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Because CCP forgot how EVE works and it would make for too much sense to mirror tanking styles between the games. I don't think CCP Shanghai ever really knew what the themes of the races were. Either that or they must of mixed up the Amarr and Gallente files when CCP Reykjavik was handing them out. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
xSynnx x Requiem of Shadows 29	Posted - 2014.01.08 18:15:00 - [9] - Quote This seems a bit more appropriate. Amarr +Armor bonus Caldari +Shield Bonus Gallente +Armor rep bonus Minmatar +Shield rep bonus (or in this case recharge or recharge delay (or both))
Azri Sarum BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 227	Posted - 2014.01.08 18:37:00 - [10] - Quote Since ccp is already changing the numbers on these dropsuits they really should spend the time to get the racial preferences right. There is no reason not to. Considering DUST is made by the same company its honestly a little embarrassing that this even happened in the first place. EVE - Victor Maximus DUST - Azri Sarum

Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 821	Posted - 2014.01.08 18:50:00 - [11] - Quote xSynnx x wrote: This seems a bit more appropriate. Amarr +Armor bonus Caldari +Shield Bonus Gallente +Armor rep bonus Minmatar +Shield rep bonus (or in this case recharge or recharge delay (or both)) Meh. I wouldn't give the Minmatar that unless it's to the point where Shields are like Armor for them, in terms of repping speed. They're hit and run and so the damage buff was perfect, imo. With 5% per level and the Combat Rifle and maybe a change to suits to allow for more high slots, the Minmatar would be pretty damn legit. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3155	Posted - 2014.01.08 19:40:00 - [12] - Quote To be honest, it is do to their weapon selection. The Amarr would be OP they were able to have the most Armor while also having a mid to long range rifle. Also, they couldn't make the Gallante the ultimate CQC run and gun race, because that is the Minmatar department. So, there are a lot of issues that would need to be worked completely around to mirror each race with EVE. So.............. how is using something the way I want OP? -Spkr4theDead
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 823	Posted - 2014.01.08 21:01:00 - [13] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: To be honest, it is do to their weapon selection. The Amarr would be OP they were able to have the most Armor while also having a mid to long range rifle. Also, they couldn't make the Gallante the ultimate CQC run and gun race, because that is the Minmatar department. So, there are a lot of issues that would need to be worked completely around to mirror each race with EVE. Yeah. I agree. The Amarr would be combination but with the current bonuses, having the stats fixed so that the Amarr get the 210 Armor and the Gallente are 180/180, would definitely work for balance. Amarr can still stack plates but they'll be losing out on a lot if they don't put an Armor Rep and the same for Gallente. Truthfully, I might become OP with Armor Rep bonus...I can get 12.5 with two Complex right now but I could push that even further...especially with my 25 Rep suit. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus


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