DUST Search - Logi nerf? Not really.

The Robot Devil wrote:

I am a full time logi, I am good at being a logi and I like being a logi. The rep bonus is bad and should be removed. Just like all the skill based bonuses should be removed and added to the suit not the skill. The suit should become better because of SP placement and the suit used not a across the board generic bonus that doesn't change with the suit. I don't like the skill bonuses and I feel like they stifle diversity and make all the suits more similar than different. I know what bonus a Gal logi has no matter what tier suit they are in because the bonus comes from the skill not the suit.

Each suit should have a different set of bonuses instead of the across the board bonus we get now. It is boring and repetitive and we should push for change. The logi rep bonus is ugly and bad and we should reject the idea because it doesn't promote diverse games or make mercs think. Amarr logis are the same from standard to prototype so I know that when I see a proto Amarr logi that all I have to do is put more damage on him because the only difference between advanced an prototype is the number of slot and resources the suit has.

How do we expect go have new and different suits if all the bonuses are the same? How is that diversity? There can only be one type of logi suit for Min because the bonuses come from the skill not the suit, there can only be one type of Cal commando because the skill gives the bonus. I don't want to have four suits for each race because there is no way to have different assaults in the same class from the same race.

With the way we have it now if I want an Amarr assault with a different bonus I have to skill into an entirely new class of suits and, to me, it is bad design. They did it correctly in EVE ships and they are screwing it up in DUST. It is truly one of the most disappointing things about DUST.

I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"

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Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 457	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:03:00 - [1] - Quote First off, none of this is even confirmed. CCP could keep everything as it is for all we know. With that in mind. Logis got a pg/cpu equipment reduction bonus, and two bonuses to a certain type of equipment. How is this a nerf? Not one mention of reducing base pg/cpu, or reducing slot counts, or anything at all beyond bonus changes.
Logi Bro Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 2580	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:06:00 - [2] - Quote Because wah my crutch is being removed. Just to clarify, there are no legitimate excuses for why these changes would be a nerf, it's just the logissaulters upset that they must grind SP to get a new FotM No, I am not CCP Logibro. Not actually a Logi Bro anymore, more like a Big Bro.
Scalesdini BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 214	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:07:00 - [3] - Quote Slayer logis are buttmad they won't be able to have a free complex armor repper anymore. So now they'll either have to fit reppers, meaning they won't be able to have over 900 armor, or rely entirely on the 45 armor repping nanohives they can carry to keep them alive. Terrible, isn't it?
Denn Maell PIanet Express 39	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:16:00 - [4] - Quote I'm not a slayer logo, but I am a little miffed that the PG/CPU reduction bonus is being shared across all suitsGÇªthat was why I loved the Gal Logi. A free complex repper was nice for my Logibro fit which was the only thing I dual-tanked on really. I just needed to survive to walk my pit bulls. Are there any links to the logi changes? I've seen the new heavies and assault changes but haven't found the changes to the logi's yet.
Logi Bro Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 2580	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:18:00 - [5] - Quote Denn Maell wrote: I'm not a slayer logo, but I am a little miffed that the PG/CPU reduction bonus is being shared across all suitsGÇªthat was why I loved the Gal Logi. A free complex repper was nice for my Logibro fit which was the only thing I dual-tanked on really. I just needed to survive to walk my pit bulls. Are there any links to the logi changes? I've seen the new heavies and assault changes but haven't found the changes to the logi's yet. Do you just want the bonuses? Look no further. Otherwise, no other info has been released, to my knowledge. No, I am not CCP Logibro. Not actually a Logi Bro anymore, more like a Big Bro.
Cosgar ParagonX 9063	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:27:00 - [6] - Quote Short sighted, race specific equipment bonuses sure as hell isn't a buff. What's going to happen when we get new gadgets to use in the next 10 or so years and you're stuck with a bonus to repair tool range? Hell, I feel sorry for Amarr logis the most at this point. Why put a uplink bonus on the slowest logi? Really? Not to mention nobody complained about the hacking bonus on Minmatar logi. What makes this really funny is that people will still find ways to say logis are OP. Just you wait. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 976	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:29:00 - [7] - Quote It was about time for the free reps to go away. Tank spam getting onto your nerves? An improvement:
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1418	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:35:00 - [8] - Quote I am a full time logi, I am good at being a logi and I like being a logi. The rep bonus is bad and should be removed. Just like all the skill based bonuses should be removed and added to the suit not the skill. The suit should become better because of SP placement and the suit used not a across the board generic bonus that doesn't change with the suit. I don't like the skill bonuses and I feel like they stifle diversity and make all the suits more similar than different. I know what bonus a Gal logi has no matter what tier suit they are in because the bonus comes from the skill not the suit. Each suit should have a different set of bonuses instead of the across the board bonus we get now. It is boring and repetitive and we should push for change. The logi rep bonus is ugly and bad and we should reject the idea because it doesn't promote diverse games or make mercs think. Amarr logis are the same from standard to prototype so I know that when I see a proto Amarr logi that all I have to do is put more damage on him because the only difference between advanced an prototype is the number of slot and resources the suit has. How do we expect go have new and different suits if all the bonuses are the same? How is that diversity? There can only be one type of logi suit for Min because the bonuses come from the skill not the suit, there can only be one type of Cal commando because the skill gives the bonus. I don't want to have four suits for each race because there is no way to have different assaults in the same class from the same race. With the way we have it now if I want an Amarr assault with a different bonus I have to skill into an entirely new class of suits and, to me, it is bad design. They did it correctly in EVE ships and they are screwing it up in DUST. It is truly one of the most disappointing things about DUST. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
Cosgar ParagonX 9064	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:36:00 - [9] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: I am a full time logi, I am good at being a logi and I like being a logi. The rep bonus is bad and should be removed. Just like all the skill based bonuses should be removed and added to the suit not the skill. The suit should become better because of SP placement and the suit used not a across the board generic bonus that doesn't change with the suit. I don't like the skill bonuses and I feel like they stifle diversity and make all the suits more similar than different. I know what bonus a Gal logi has no matter what tier suit they are in because the bonus comes from the skill not the suit. Each suit should have a different set of bonuses instead of the across the board bonus we get now. It is boring and repetitive and we should push for change. The logi rep bonus is ugly and bad and we should reject the idea because it doesn't promote diverse games or make mercs think. Amarr logis are the same from standard to prototype so I know that when I see a proto Amarr logi that all I have to do is put more damage on him because the only difference between advanced an prototype is the number of slot and resources the suit has. How do we expect go have new and different suits if all the bonuses are the same? How is that diversity? There can only be one type of logi suit for Min because the bonuses come from the skill not the suit, there can only be one type of Cal commando because the skill gives the bonus. I don't want to have four suits for each race because there is no way to have different assaults in the same class from the same race. With the way we have it now if I want an Amarr assault with a different bonus I have to skill into an entirely new class of suits and, to me, it is bad design. They did it correctly in EVE ships and they are screwing it up in DUST. It is truly one of the most disappointing things about DUST. CCP, listen to this man. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
demonkiller 12 G.L.O.R.Y Public Disorder. 315	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:38:00 - [10] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: Because wah my crutch is being removed. Just to clarify, there are no legitimate excuses for why these changes would be a nerf, it's just the logissaulters upset that they must grind SP to get a new FotM 2.5 mil SP to grind idgaf, and then when i actually need it, i have my sweet winmatar proto logi with 50% hack speed

demonkiller 12 G.L.O.R.Y Public Disorder. 315	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:40:00 - [11] - Quote Scalesdini wrote: Slayer logis are buttmad they won't be able to have a free complex armor repper anymore. So now they'll either have to fit reppers, meaning they won't be able to have over 900 armor, or rely entirely on the 45 armor repping nanohives they can carry to keep them alive. Terrible, isn't it? none of the medium suits can actually get over 900 armor i think gallente 210 base? +5 complex armor plates 885 armor + 25% +10% nice i want to get my proto just to be dumb and have like 1100 armor on a medium suit


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