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Aisha Ctarl
Ctarl - Ctarl Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:48:00 -
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With the RR, SCR, and CR being ranged weapons I would assume the AR is at a disadvantage. It seems as if engagements are at longer and longer ranges now where if you're caught with an AR, you're pretty much boned.
Just wondering if they're still viable.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2592
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:50:00 -
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I get killed by the them quite often. There honestly isn't a ton of places you can stand outside of an AR's range with the way the maps are built unless you're killing people in between objectives.
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Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
241
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:53:00 -
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I see them often enough, but mostly GEKs i see more proto CR and RR than proto AR these days. |
Denn Maell
PIanet Express
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:55:00 -
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With a big asterisk, yes they are viableGǪhowever,
Their shorter range (and the presence of other much more long range rifles) means that AR users are more situational then ever before. If my Gal Assault can close in to a Cal Assault I usually win if all things are equal. But, given that range its a tense process.
Also, other Rail users seem to be able to use the RR for CQCGǪa feat I can't seem to replicate.
Also, I just came from a match where Caldari Assault were formed in British Redcoat-style firing lines and demolishing everything with their Rails. It was a chilling experience. |
Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:59:00 -
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Denn Maell wrote:With a big asterisk, yes they are viableGǪhowever,
Their shorter range (and the presence of other much more long range rifles) means that AR users are more situational then ever before. If my Gal Assault can close in to a Cal Assault I usually win if all things are equal. But, given that range its a tense process.
Also, other Rail users seem to be able to use the RR for CQCGǪa feat I can't seem to replicate.
Also, I just came from a match where Caldari Assault were formed in British Redcoat-style firing lines and demolishing everything with their Rails. It was a chilling experience.
My basic CR minja at CQC > Caldari Assault with a Rail Rifle at CQC
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:03:00 -
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If you're even half decent at strafing and know how to use cover, then yes, they are viable. Step out of your cover for 2 seconds and you're dead.
But the CR is your best bet IMO.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2033
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:03:00 -
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This is my rifle. There are many others like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. Before God I swear this creed: my rifle and myself are defenders of my country, we are the masters of our enemy, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
2694
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:03:00 -
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They are still viable, but are an extremely CQC weapon, I use them on my commando fit mostly.
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Uncle AWOL Protheans
The Renegades of the Untold Truth
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:04:00 -
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Denn Maell wrote:With a big asterisk, yes they are viableGǪhowever,
Their shorter range (and the presence of other much more long range rifles) means that AR users are more situational then ever before. If my Gal Assault can close in to a Cal Assault I usually win if all things are equal. But, given that range its a tense process.
Also, other Rail users seem to be able to use the RR for CQCGǪa feat I can't seem to replicate.
Also, I just came from a match where Caldari Assault were formed in British Redcoat-style firing lines and demolishing everything with their Rails. It was a chilling experience.
+1 for the british firing lines part, made me giggle thinking about it.
In other news: I took all of my gall assault fits, copied them and replaced the ARs with RRs and CRs. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
2694
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:04:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:This is my rifle. There are many others like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. Before God I swear this creed: my rifle and myself are defenders of my country, we are the masters of our enemy, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen.
That was beautiful :')
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Aisha Ctarl
Ctarl - Ctarl Empire
2750
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:06:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:If you're even half decent at strafing and know how to use cover, then yes, they are viable. Step out of your cover for 2 seconds and you're dead.
But the CR is your best bet IMO.
The CR just feels like a pea shooter to me.
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Aero Yassavi
Yassavi House
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:08:00 -
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You just have to know how to properly approach a confrontation with another weapon. For instance, if you come across a rail rifle, start playing peek-a-boo with cover. The RR has to charge up before it starts firing, so if you're constantly poking your head in and our of cover that creates an advantage for you since the AR does not have any charge up. If you're going against a combat rifle, well . . . . think of something and pray I guess
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Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
619
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:09:00 -
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I'm sure they are in the right environment, the question is if the user is skilled enough to engage at an advantage rather than fight at range. I've been killed by many geks using my sb-39 |
Aero Yassavi
Yassavi House
4406
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:09:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Patrick57 wrote:If you're even half decent at strafing and know how to use cover, then yes, they are viable. Step out of your cover for 2 seconds and you're dead.
But the CR is your best bet IMO. The CR just feels like a pea shooter to me.
CR is insanely good, you must be using it wrong.
Still, I stand firmly to the belief that the scrambler rifle is the most versatile weapon of the bunch.
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
No, it's Super Amarr!
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
224
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:14:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:This is my rifle. There are many others like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. Before God I swear this creed: my rifle and myself are defenders of my country, we are the masters of our enemy, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
1433
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:15:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Patrick57 wrote:If you're even half decent at strafing and know how to use cover, then yes, they are viable. Step out of your cover for 2 seconds and you're dead.
But the CR is your best bet IMO. The CR just feels like a pea shooter to me. CR is insanely good, you must be using it wrong. Still, I stand firmly to the belief that the scrambler rifle is the most versatile weapon of the bunch.
this.
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Tectonic Fusion
945
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:17:00 -
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Considering I can **** face with it in a scout suit...
Yes.
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Aisha Ctarl
Ctarl - Ctarl Empire
2750
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:18:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Patrick57 wrote:If you're even half decent at strafing and know how to use cover, then yes, they are viable. Step out of your cover for 2 seconds and you're dead.
But the CR is your best bet IMO. The CR just feels like a pea shooter to me. CR is insanely good, you must be using it wrong. Still, I stand firmly to the belief that the scrambler rifle is the most versatile weapon of the bunch.
Two complex damage mods on it and it struggles so badly against shields.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2035
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:29:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Rynoceros wrote:This is my rifle. There are many others like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. Before God I swear this creed: my rifle and myself are defenders of my country, we are the masters of our enemy, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen. Full metal jacket?
Kinda...
Rifleman's Creed, but it's in the movie.
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