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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.08 01:32:00 -
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Changes announced and it seems that they are over the place . This game will be so easy to die playing and you will be paying out of your rear ( except those with hundreds of millions of ISK's ) to reset your self back up and cover your losses that most of you WILL leave , no matter what you come out and say now .
Talk about how much LOVE you have for Dust 514 and how the lore is so great ( maybe that's true ) but you will begin to question yourself and it might be sooner than later .
This will become the most boring , non effort , instakilling , 8-10 year old picking up a controller or mouse and going 30 / 0 games around and it's a shame about what has become .
Damage bonuses to high DPS weapons , rate of fire bonuses on top of the already Op ness of these weapons , skill bonuses that don't make since or shows any ingenuity and goes against some of the precious lore's mechanics , across the board laziness in granting the same bonuses ... just so much mediocrity and parody , that should tell most that this game is going down hill as we speak because something that was once original has become dreary and bland , full of same ole same ole's .
This should show you community , that YOUR feedback is not valued or appreciated .
Why not ask the public what they might like and just take a poll and gather the info and run with the most popular results ???
We don't know what we want and prob would break an already broken game even more than it is .. is that it ccp ???
I can't even capitalize your title anymore because I already know that you think that I am small ... but I have respect for my fellows that I walk the Earth and take trips to New Eden with .
This is one of those time's where I'm at a lost for words , waiting like most in anticipation for info that has totally let the air out of my balloon . I hope you just rethink what has been leaked and if you are going to do things like give a damage bonus and ROF bonus , that you take a look at the AR'S and kill some of their DPS , I mean it only makes since and change some of the role bonuses to things that are more reflective of that race , not just some across the board check list of simple quick check items .
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
311
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Posted - 2014.01.08 01:47:00 -
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If we speak out now then maybe we can avoid the vehicle episode 2 where everyone had nothing but praise for what they were reading until the drop of 1.7 and then came the Nerf this and that and the QQing . We as a community can not let that happen again by sitting on our hands and doing NOTHING while changes that will crush this game even more than it's hurting now , will come into effect and kill what is left of what attracted us to Dust in the first place .
This is becoming commercialized and is that what most of you want ??? I know you wanted to get the word out but at what expense ???
Move and act , begin to speak out now and give feedback and watch the result of your actions .
See if YOU are REALLY valued , or maybe YOU just don't care .
I do .
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
311
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Posted - 2014.01.08 01:50:00 -
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Nerfing the Mass driver and adding ROF and damage bonuses to already high DPS AR's .. I mean come on  what is the reason and where are the priorities ???
ROF increase to swarms that are already ineffective ???
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9752
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Posted - 2014.01.08 01:52:00 -
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Nothing is set in stone, they are test values and we've seen a number of crazy values in the past that never saw the light of day.
What's more concerning is that the CPM learned about this at the same time that the rest of us did.
Assault Dropship Montage
Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
311
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Posted - 2014.01.08 01:54:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Nothing is set in stone, they are test values and we've seen a number of crazy values in the past that never saw the light of day.
What's more concerning is that the CPM learned about this at the same time that the rest of us did.
Keep believing that . The info had to come from somewhere and even if it was leaked and nothing is said then it WILL be etched in stone .
Vehicles episode 2 .
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3446
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Posted - 2014.01.08 01:56:00 -
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It will be easier to die, but it'll also be more needed to develop strategy.
This is no longer the game I could win with BPO zerg tactics.
You'll now need to keep your head down and think- like a scout.
Maybe people will finally see the need for transports, HAV escorts, and LAV vanguards.
This'll be fun. For me.
I've been playing around with previously un-needed tactics ever since closed beta, which gives me a hell of a lot more experience in what's to come.
We used to have a time machine
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
314
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:01:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:It will be easier to die, but it'll also be more needed to develop strategy.
This is no longer the game I could win with BPO zerg tactics.
You'll now need to keep your head down and think- like a scout.
Maybe people will finally see the need for transports, HAV escorts, and LAV vanguards.
This'll be fun. For me.
I've been playing around with previously un-needed tactics ever since closed beta, which gives me a hell of a lot more experience in what's to come.
Think like a scout ??? No offence scouts ( this should be you speaking like me instead ) but YOU will be the first ones off the board in every match . Think you have it rough now , just wait . High ROF wont help that speed that you have nor will the damage bonuses on already high DPS AR's . Better hope that you can place TWO shotguns on your person because you will need it .
Think about strategy when you die in .07 seconds . There will be none , hell it's not enough now as we speak from high DPS and TTK but that's all just in my head and is imaginary .
Sit on your hands and wait and see if you like .
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3447
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:04:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:It will be easier to die, but it'll also be more needed to develop strategy.
This is no longer the game I could win with BPO zerg tactics.
You'll now need to keep your head down and think- like a scout.
Maybe people will finally see the need for transports, HAV escorts, and LAV vanguards.
This'll be fun. For me.
I've been playing around with previously un-needed tactics ever since closed beta, which gives me a hell of a lot more experience in what's to come. Think like a scout ??? No offence scouts ( this should be you speaking like me instead ) but YOU will be the first ones off the board in every match . Think you have it rough now , just wait . High ROF wont help that speed that you have nor will the damage bonuses on already high DPS AR's . Better hope that you can place TWO shotguns on your person because you will need it . Think about strategy when you die in .07 seconds . There will be none , hell it's not enough now as we speak from high DPS and TTK but that's all just in my head and is imaginary . Sit on your hands and wait and see if you like .
The true scouts who have learned to think are masters of not getting shot at in the first place.
We used to have a time machine
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
314
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:08:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:
The true scouts who have learned to think are masters of not getting shot at in the first place.
Are you serious ??? Has there EVER been a game where a person was NOT shot ???
Don't see too many scouts going 20 / 0 , 30 / 2 or even 15 / 0 .
Good luck with that one bud .
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
826
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:16:00 -
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Man I remember the days when it was scarry seeing a proto on the field, now it doesn't matter and unless CCP does something to TTK, these bonuses are a joke, especially in this games current state.. There needs to be more risk for using slayer/proto suits and more reward for those able to drop em...
Imo the roles need to embrace the suits not just a generic 5% to shield/armor... It's comical to think someone thought RoF needed an increase and damage mods ? Dafuq ? Does CCP even play this game and have they speced into the new rifles....? |
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1493
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:20:00 -
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Well actually I think certain people's feedback has been appreciated.
I for one, think the majority of the proposed skill bonuses make sense.
The Commando Units will make for amazing AV.
The Sentinel Suits are gonna be beast. (Maybe too much, but that is another matter)
The Assault Suit and Logistics Suit Bonuses are perfectly logical if you ask me.
The only problems I have,
Logi Racial Bonuses: Don't restrict people to equipnent to make use of it. Give less specific ones
Amarr Assault: Why Reps? +3% Armour Plate +3% Shield extender
Minmatar Assault: Damage Mods? +5% Shield Recharger/Energizer +5% Armour Reps
TTK on rifles need a nerf, to compensate for ttk increase from 1.4 about 15% ought to do it.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
314
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:24:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Man I remember the days when it was scarry seeing a proto on the field, now it doesn't matter and unless CCP does something to TTK, these bonuses are a joke, especially in this games current state.. There needs to be more risk for using slayer/proto suits and more reward for those able to drop em...
Imo the roles need to embrace the suits not just a generic 5% to shield/armor... It's comical to think someone thought RoF needed an increase and damage mods ? Dafuq ? Does CCP even play this game and have they speced into the new rifles....?
Def NOT !!! Pride sometime gives a person a " GOD LIKE " complex and those are the ones that you can say NOTHING to because they know what you don't know and YOU KNOW NOTHING . It's sad to see and even worst to say for me about anyone but the evidence is undeniable .
Just makes NO since at all .
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3448
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:28:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:
The true scouts who have learned to think are masters of not getting shot at in the first place.
Are you serious ??? Has there EVER been a game where a person was NOT shot ??? Don't see too many scouts going 20 / 0 , 30 / 2 or even 15 / 0 . Good luck with that one bud .
I've gone whole games without being shot.
I keep my distance and know when to run.
Obviously you don't understand what a scout is. I don't try to sprint at people or dance like a dumbass.
We used to have a time machine
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
314
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:29:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Well actually I think certain people's feedback has been appreciated.
I for one, think the majority of the proposed skill bonuses make sense.
The Commando Units will make for amazing AV.
The Sentinel Suits are gonna be beast. (Maybe too much, but that is another matter)
The Assault Suit and Logistics Suit Bonuses are perfectly logical if you ask me.
The only problems I have,
Logi Racial Bonuses: Don't restrict people to equipnent to make use of it. Give less specific ones
Amarr Assault: Why Reps? +3% Armour Plate +3% Shield extender
Minmatar Assault: Damage Mods? +5% Shield Recharger/Energizer +5% Armour Reps
TTK on rifles need a nerf, to compensate for ttk increase from 1.4 about 15% ought to do it.
AV has to be adjusted for it to be amazing .
Agree about sentinels .
Of logi's , I have seen people already complaining about them so that one I just don't know , I'm not a logi and if I was I would be a medi / logi so I really don't have an opinion about that but from the logi's that I have seen give responses in threads complain about the changes .
I don't understand the Caldari assaults bonus when the efficacy was GREAT to me and they now get taxed for added shield extenders so a recharge rate for me would have been not much but better in my opinion .
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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LEHON Xeon
Pradox XVI
17
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:29:00 -
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I wondered for quite awhile now how long it would take before it would be almost or completely insta-kill. We may very well arrive at that. For anyone who has played Borderlands, you know full well about that in duels and games in general with modded "stock combat guns".
If Walking Is So Good For You, Then Why Does My Mailman Look Like Jabba The Hut?
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
314
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:34:00 -
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LEHON Xeon wrote:I wondered for quite awhile now how long it would take before it would be almost or completely insta-kill. We may very well arrive at that. For anyone who has played Borderlands, you know full well about that in duels and games in general with modded "stock combat guns".
Oh ... you already see it coming my friend , you see it coming and so do I .
You people talk about snipers now . Just wait and see games and it might just be almost every one , where you see at least 6 or 7 in a match .
I mean I couldn't get mad at that ( yes I could and I am a sniper ) but who wants to get instablapped ???
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1496
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:36:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Well actually I think certain people's feedback has been appreciated.
I for one, think the majority of the proposed skill bonuses make sense.
The Commando Units will make for amazing AV.
The Sentinel Suits are gonna be beast. (Maybe too much, but that is another matter)
The Assault Suit and Logistics Suit Bonuses are perfectly logical if you ask me.
The only problems I have,
Logi Racial Bonuses: Don't restrict people to equipnent to make use of it. Give less specific ones
Amarr Assault: Why Reps? +3% Armour Plate +3% Shield extender
Minmatar Assault: Damage Mods? +5% Shield Recharger/Energizer +5% Armour Reps
TTK on rifles need a nerf, to compensate for ttk increase from 1.4 about 15% ought to do it. AV has to be adjusted for it to be amazing . Agree about sentinels . Of logi's , I have seen people already complaining about them so that one I just don't know , I'm not a logi and if I was I would be a medi / logi so I really don't have an opinion about that but from the logi's that I have seen give responses in threads complain about the changes . I don't understand the Caldari assaults bonus when the efficacy was GREAT to me and they now get taxed for added shield extenders so a recharge rate for me would have been not much but better in my opinion .
The complaints about logis is the racial bonuses, which is entirely justified. They penalise you for not using the equipment to which you get a bonus. Which is wrong, it should be more defensively based, such as improved regulator effeciancy or armour reps or speed.
Well the Caldari do Shield tank, so it makes sense to improve that tank. And the stack penalty only requires 1 regulator in a low to bypass.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
765
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:37:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:
Keep believing that . The info had to come from somewhere and even if it was leaked and nothing is said then it WILL be etched in stone .
Vehicles episode 2 .
It came from the test server Singularity. Which is literally where they put stuff to test it before it gets in to the game. But you are right is a good idea to let CCP know if something is a horrible idea but bear in mind it is absolutely and literally a rough draft for things they are trying out.
"STFU I'm awesome, all your points are invalid as I kill proto's all the time nubs." - Infinite Diversity IDIC
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
314
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:39:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:
Keep believing that . The info had to come from somewhere and even if it was leaked and nothing is said then it WILL be etched in stone .
Vehicles episode 2 .
It came from the test server Singularity. Which is literally where they put stuff to test it before it gets in to the game. But you are right is a good idea to let CCP know if something is a horrible idea but bear in mind it is absolutely and literally a rough draft for things they are trying out.
I had to give you a like for that out of faith . I just don't have too much in the trust department when it comes to CCP right now , I wish I didn't have to feel that way though .
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
241
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:39:00 -
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Going to go from current, "whom ever shoots first wins" to "if you blink your dead" I hope these changes are comign with a big ol 25% damage nerf to all light (none AV) weapons acrross the board |
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
314
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:43:00 -
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I for one would rather make a fuss about it now and be proven wrong later when I could and would be the FIRST to apologize for being wrong and admitting my mistake then doing nothing and being disappointed in the fact that I didn't say anything , even if to them it doesn't matter .
I don't have a problem admitting my faults . Not at all .
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1496
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:45:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:Going to go from current, "whom ever shoots first wins" to "if you blink your dead" I hope these changes are comign with a big ol 25% damage nerf to all light (none AV) weapons acrross the board
No, if it were it should be a 15-20% High ROF weapons.
AR
CR
RR
ScR
HMG
SMG
They are the ones that need it, MD, SG, LR, SR can all keep their current.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
314
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:46:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:Going to go from current, "whom ever shoots first wins" to "if you blink your dead" I hope these changes are comign with a big ol 25% damage nerf to all light (none AV) weapons acrross the board
I can't believe what I seen about the mass driver . That was just un necessary . No AV either , yeah your right or lazars and sniper rifles .
Had to sneak that sniper rifle in there . 
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
314
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:47:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:Going to go from current, "whom ever shoots first wins" to "if you blink your dead" I hope these changes are comign with a big ol 25% damage nerf to all light (none AV) weapons acrross the board No, if it were it should be a 15-20% High ROF weapons. AR CR RR ScR HMG SMG They are the ones that need it, MD, SG, LR, SR can all keep their current.
Don't know about the HMG , it's just now starting to feel right and I just can't agree with the SMG either . Sorry 
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1496
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:52:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:Going to go from current, "whom ever shoots first wins" to "if you blink your dead" I hope these changes are comign with a big ol 25% damage nerf to all light (none AV) weapons acrross the board No, if it were it should be a 15-20% High ROF weapons. AR CR RR ScR HMG SMG They are the ones that need it, MD, SG, LR, SR can all keep their current. Don't know about the HMG , it's just now starting to feel right and I just can't agree with the SMG either . Sorry
I can slide a little on those 2, maybe 10% for them.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Justice Prevails
164
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:53:00 -
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Sorry for my ignorance, first time looking at forums after a couple hectic days. WTF did I miss? Cant find announcements or anything. Any info would be much appreciated.
Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
314
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:56:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:I can slide a little on those 2, maybe 10% for them.
See now that wasn't hard .
Being able to compromise is what makes a good team mate and a great team .
Thank you for that ... my good man .
Thank you indeed .
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
314
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:58:00 -
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Justice Prevails wrote:Sorry for my ignorance, first time looking at forums after a couple hectic days. WTF did I miss? Cant find announcements or anything. Any info would be much appreciated.
I don't know how to put of links .
Hopefully someone will bring up one but I will go and check what I seen and bring the title back . BRB .
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
766
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:01:00 -
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Justice Prevails wrote:Sorry for my ignorance, first time looking at forums after a couple hectic days. WTF did I miss? Cant find announcements or anything. Any info would be much appreciated.
There isn't an announcement. This is all based off what was on the test server. So no need to panic or anything but add your voice to anything you don't like just to try and make sure it doesn't end up the final patch.
"STFU I'm awesome, all your points are invalid as I kill proto's all the time nubs." - Infinite Diversity IDIC
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1497
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Posted - 2014.01.08 03:01:00 -
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Justice Prevails wrote:Sorry for my ignorance, first time looking at forums after a couple hectic days. WTF did I miss? Cant find announcements or anything. Any info would be much appreciated.
Information has been leaked that new suits, suit bonuses and prehaps skill tree changes were deployed to Singularity.
It is BELIEVED that they are currently being tested by the dev team.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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