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JH P
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.07 00:44:00 -
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Yes, I am a hater. But once, I was a fan and had deep deep faith that CCP would create good FPS for us to enjoy. Don't bother replying since I won't be visiting this forum ever anyway. Now read to what I have to say.
1. Clunky shooting mechanics
I was surprised to see how clueless CCP was with shooters while playing this game. The aiming mechanic is absolutely horrid, no wonder everyone has to rely on aim assist.
2. Outdated visuals
This one title says it all. Graphic is plain and looks like something from 2007. For example, Crysis 3 has FAR I mean FAR superior graphics compare to this game. Dust 514's visual is shameful even to be considered a AAA shooter.
3. Player count
This game gets like an average of 3000 players. To put this in perspective Battlefield 3, a game from 2011, and people had to pay $60 for the game currently has 30,000 people online just on PS3 alone.
4. Overpromises Once CCP said "Oh you will get an PvE matches, VTOL Jets, MTACs and it is going to be all sunshine and rainbow" Not to mention how CCP said this game will contain THOUSANDS of maps because it is set on planet of New Eden and it is all unique. It just did not happen and CCP should be embarrassed.
4. Receptions
This is to show that I am NOT the only one who thinks like this.
Metacritic 59/100 IGN 5.8/10 GameSpot 4/10 Game Rankings 59.1/100
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Valmorgan Aubaris
Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services ACME Holding Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.01.07 00:45:00 -
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JH P wrote:Yes, I am a hater. But once, I was a fan and had deep deep faith that CCP would create good FPS for us to enjoy. Don't bother replying since I won't be visiting this forum ever anyway.
LOL drama queen
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Let's gank Scotty.
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BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.07 00:51:00 -
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JH P wrote:Yes, I am a hater.
Do I need to say more?
FTFY
Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter BattleDuty 514
Working as intended.
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Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence. EoN.
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Posted - 2014.01.07 00:54:00 -
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OP, I was looking for the part of your post where you said something new that was constructive to the community and added something to the conversation but all I could find was the same stuff that's been said 1,000 times before.
Could you please repost it with the additional info? Thanks in advance.
"STFU I'm awesome, all your points are invalid as I kill proto's all the time nubs." - Infinite Diversity IDIC
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.01.07 00:56:00 -
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Valmorgan Aubaris wrote:JH P wrote:Yes, I am a hater. But once, I was a fan and had deep deep faith that CCP would create good FPS for us to enjoy. Don't bother replying since I won't be visiting this forum ever anyway.
LOL drama queen Technically to be a drama queen the OP would be thriving on some controversy. This feels more like a disgruntled drive-by. Not too surprising, New Eden has been eating unwary gamers for a decade now. Only the strong survive here.
MCC Lounge Lizard
Forums > Game
Fix the game CCP
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
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Posted - 2014.01.07 00:59:00 -
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Quote:Outdated visuals
This one title says it all. Graphic is plain and looks like something from 2007. For example, Crysis 3 has FAR I mean FAR superior graphics compare to this game. Dust 514's visual is shameful even to be considered a AAA shooter.
Don't know what you're expecting sport but have you seen MMO games, considering this is being run on those servers its pretty damn fine.
I don't know what to tell you but if you think a game that had such a high power draw it MELTED peoples machines for a for a 32 multiplayer is a benchmark your not gonna bs happy.
EVER
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.07 01:02:00 -
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You may not post on the forums anymore...
... but I'd like to say hi to your main that's browsing this thread.
Never forget
How to fix the Logi
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.07 01:06:00 -
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JH P wrote:Yes, I am a hater. But once, I was a fan and had deep deep faith that CCP would create good FPS for us to enjoy. Don't bother replying since I won't be visiting this forum ever anyway. Now read to what I have to say.
1. Clunky shooting mechanics
I was surprised to see how clueless CCP was with shooters while playing this game. The aiming mechanic is absolutely horrid, no wonder everyone has to rely on aim assist.
2. Outdated visuals
This one title says it all. Graphic is plain and looks like something from 2007. For example, Crysis 3 has FAR I mean FAR superior graphics compare to this game. Dust 514's visual is shameful even to be considered a AAA shooter.
3. Player count
This game gets like an average of 3000 players. To put this in perspective Battlefield 3, a game from 2011, and people had to pay $60 for the game currently has 30,000 people online just on PS3 alone.
4. Overpromises Once CCP said "Oh you will get an PvE matches, VTOL Jets, MTACs and it is going to be all sunshine and rainbow" Not to mention how CCP said this game will contain THOUSANDS of maps because it is set on planet of New Eden and it is all unique. It just did not happen and CCP should be embarrassed.
4. Receptions
This is to show that I am NOT the only one who thinks like this.
Metacritic 59/100 IGN 5.8/10 GameSpot 4/10 Game Rankings 59.1/100
Do I need to say more?
Everyone knows, no one cares.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.01.07 01:09:00 -
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JH P wrote:Yes, I am a hater. But once, I was a fan and had deep deep faith that CCP would create good FPS for us to enjoy. Don't bother replying since I won't be visiting this forum ever anyway. Now read to what I have to say.
1. Clunky shooting mechanics
I was surprised to see how clueless CCP was with shooters while playing this game. The aiming mechanic is absolutely horrid, no wonder everyone has to rely on aim assist.
2. Outdated visuals
This one title says it all. Graphic is plain and looks like something from 2007. For example, Crysis 3 has FAR I mean FAR superior graphics compare to this game. Dust 514's visual is shameful even to be considered a AAA shooter.
3. Player count
This game gets like an average of 3000 players. To put this in perspective Battlefield 3, a game from 2011, and people had to pay $60 for the game currently has 30,000 people online just on PS3 alone.
4. Overpromises Once CCP said "Oh you will get an PvE matches, VTOL Jets, MTACs and it is going to be all sunshine and rainbow" Not to mention how CCP said this game will contain THOUSANDS of maps because it is set on planet of New Eden and it is all unique. It just did not happen and CCP should be embarrassed.
4. Receptions
This is to show that I am NOT the only one who thinks like this.
Metacritic 59/100 IGN 5.8/10 GameSpot 4/10 Game Rankings 59.1/100
Do I need to say more?
I think you need to say less.
And to think the people who made call of duty 1 made a pretty horrible game before it and had to learn all the lessons involved in making shooters. Most studios do not make a stellar shooter off the bat, Bungie has a sizable collection of 'subpar' games before it but all of them learned lessons.
Also you want a terrible game?
Metacritic 0.7
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.07 01:11:00 -
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Because you make it out to be.
Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
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Posted - 2014.01.07 01:13:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Everyone knows, no one cares.
Hilmar Veigar should.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.01.07 01:43:00 -
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Why post this?
I mean if you think it is a failure why do you want to hear the defenses of people who like the game.
I guess in the end haters got to hate.
Really that is all a haters says. Words with out meaning, they are simply there for hate.
If I had power, I would pour the sweet milk of concord into hell.
Malcom
Tragedy of Macbeth
Act IV Scene 3.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.01.07 01:54:00 -
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I didn't bother reading past the first few sentences because... what's the point?
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2014.01.07 02:09:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I think you need to say less. And to think the people who made call of duty 1 made a pretty horrible game before it and had to learn all the lessons involved in making shooters. Most studios do not make a stellar shooter off the bat, Bungie has a sizable collection of 'subpar' games before it but all of them learned lessons. Also you want a terrible game? Metacritic 0.7
Here we go again Iron Wolf trying to downplay the truth, don't get me wrong this guy is beating a dead horse.. But hey, at least he's beating it and not Pulling a IWS and brushing its hair and still pretending its just one fence away from jumping through greener pastures.. You're Call Of Duty analogy is just ******** because CCP is not a beginner or small company anymore, they aren't starting with a Dust board game and moving their way out of the basement.. You being a face of the community should probably quit acting like they are and face facts, instead of trying to cover them up with some kind of meta score from a game that has not a god damn thing to do with Dust or CCP..
Even if Dust development team may be small they came out of the corner swinging talking about picking up millions of players and their immersive AAA title... Us vets have seen and heard developers talking the talk and they continue to drop the ball patch after patch.. I'm sure you know this but if CCP could be humble for once and come out and talk to the community about their failed vision maybe we wouldn't continue to have posts like this.. Maybe actually COMMUNICATE with the COMMUNITY, not pull an IWS and always telling the community they are asking for too much and assuming to much for this supposed small company offering us a F2P game..........
I think a lot of us have lost faith in CCP im sure even their vision is further from the 10yr mark then they would like to admit... Even if they are following some garage developers release and rebuild moto, with the time and placement of this game, it shouldn't be this broken, plain and simple...
For the people wanting this guy to add some kind of detailed information for the community to discuss and developers to dig through... Why should he ? Haven't those kind of posts been done before even if they are selfish "fix this posts" developers don't respond unless its a cookie cutter response or Foxboy decides to troll someone and then IWS is the only CPM that chimes in and if people aren't talking about furries or his personal profile it's usually his typical garbage above... |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
306
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Posted - 2014.01.07 03:36:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I think you need to say less. And to think the people who made call of duty 1 made a pretty horrible game before it and had to learn all the lessons involved in making shooters. Most studios do not make a stellar shooter off the bat, Bungie has a sizable collection of 'subpar' games before it but all of them learned lessons. Also you want a terrible game? Metacritic 0.7 Here we go again Iron Wolf trying to downplay the truth, don't get me wrong this guy is beating a dead horse.. But hey, at least he's beating it and not Pulling a IWS and brushing its hair and still pretending its just one fence away from jumping through greener pastures.. You're Call Of Duty analogy is just ******** because CCP is not a beginner or small company anymore, they aren't starting with a Dust board game and moving their way out of the basement.. You being a face of the community should probably quit acting like they are and face facts, instead of trying to cover them up with some kind of meta score from a game that has not a god damn thing to do with Dust or CCP.. Even if Dust development team may be small they came out of the corner swinging talking about picking up millions of players and their immersive AAA title... Us vets have seen and heard developers talking the talk and they continue to drop the ball patch after patch.. I'm sure you know this but if CCP could be humble for once and come out and talk to the community about their failed vision maybe we wouldn't continue to have posts like this.. Maybe actually COMMUNICATE with the COMMUNITY, not pull an IWS and always telling the community they are asking for too much and assuming to much for this supposed small company offering us a F2P game.......... I think a lot of us have lost faith in CCP im sure even their vision is further from the 10yr mark then they would like to admit... Even if they are following some garage developers release and rebuild moto, with the time and placement of this game, it shouldn't be this broken, plain and simple... For the people wanting this guy to add some kind of detailed information for the community to discuss and developers to dig through... Why should he ? Haven't those kind of posts been done before even if they are selfish "fix this posts" developers don't respond unless its a cookie cutter response or Foxboy decides to troll someone and then IWS is the only CPM that chimes in and if people aren't talking about furries or his personal profile it's usually his typical garbage above...
I don't know about IWS but reading the forums , you get to find out a lot about everyone like who really cares and who doesn't . Who wants a completed and game breaking product and who wants a bunch of glitched items that give most improper advantages and ruins the game play . Bolsh lee and the OP I can tell truly cares about this game and it's a shame that most don't . I should print this out because it's just that heartfelt and great and actually be the standard for the community as far as their attitude about Dust 514 .
Some people say , " Go big or go home " but I feel like they should get better or at least admit problems and that shows a willingness to address issues instead of throwing things under the rug ( sales or new in game materials but with the same problems looming ) in hopes that it disappears but it never does because you can't hide the obvious and most who play this game are not mindless sheep .
This quote from Bolsh Lee should be the mantra for the community in the year of 2014 .
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1500
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Posted - 2014.01.07 10:31:00 -
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JH P wrote:Yes, I am a hater. But once, I was a fan and had deep deep faith that CCP would create good FPS for us to enjoy. Don't bother replying since I won't be visiting this forum ever anyway. Now read to what I have to say.
Shooter mechanics:
If you worry about stuff like this, which works pretty good so far, you may be playing the wrong game. Dust 514 goes way beyond being just a shooter. It's also a RPG. So if you just want a simple perfectly balanced shooter, then yes: The game isn't for you.
Graphics:
Geez. Who cares? I always thought devs focus too much on graphics. Would it be better if the graphics were better? Yeah. of course. But I can live with Dusts current visuals and I think gameplay is more important than shiny graphics.
Playercount:
You do need to say more. First of all: Dust is F2P and many people show biase. For them F2P equals P2W. So there's your answer why BF3 has more players. Also BF3 is a bigger franchise. Eve? Of course it's well known. But it's also well known that not that many people like to play it because it's hard. So what to expect from a Eve shooter?
Overpromises:
Overpromises? Dust 514 is a lot different than BF3. You have to buy a new Battlefield every year. Dust on the other hand evolves over time but will stay the same game. There's a reason CCP has a 5-year-plan just for this game alone. It's not overpromising, it's just players wanting everything CCP announced for the next 5 years now. And you still wonder why they hesitate to give out plans for the next patches.
Receptions:
Yeah. So what? Most magazines have 1 tester. So you just quoted 3 people thinking the game has problems. That aside: 60 Points isn't bad. Just means the game isn't for everybody. 60 points != ****. Also they tested it like they tested other shooters. Thinking they have a complete game before them. But that's not the case. Dust regularly gets new content updates which are free. No DLC ****, no yearly releases. One game, addons are free. This is also worth something.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
1073
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:18:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ICfpjoevP8
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
1073
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:20:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I think you need to say less. And to think the people who made call of duty 1 made a pretty horrible game before it and had to learn all the lessons involved in making shooters. Most studios do not make a stellar shooter off the bat, Bungie has a sizable collection of 'subpar' games before it but all of them learned lessons. Also you want a terrible game? Metacritic 0.7 Here we go again Iron Wolf trying to downplay the truth, don't get me wrong this guy is beating a dead horse.. But hey, at least he's beating it and not Pulling a IWS and brushing its hair and still pretending its just one fence away from jumping through greener pastures.. You're Call Of Duty analogy is just ******** because CCP is not a beginner or small company anymore, they aren't starting with a Dust board game and moving their way out of the basement.. You being a face of the community should probably quit acting like they are and face facts, instead of trying to cover them up with some kind of meta score from a game that has not a god damn thing to do with Dust or CCP.. Even if Dust development team may be small they came out of the corner swinging talking about picking up millions of players and their immersive AAA title... Us vets have seen and heard developers talking the talk and they continue to drop the ball patch after patch.. I'm sure you know this but if CCP could be humble for once and come out and talk to the community about their failed vision maybe we wouldn't continue to have posts like this.. Maybe actually COMMUNICATE with the COMMUNITY, not pull an IWS and always telling the community they are asking for too much and assuming to much for this supposed small company offering us a F2P game.......... I think a lot of us have lost faith in CCP im sure even their vision is further from the 10yr mark then they would like to admit... Even if they are following some garage developers release and rebuild moto, with the time and placement of this game, it shouldn't be this broken, plain and simple... For the people wanting this guy to add some kind of detailed information for the community to discuss and developers to dig through... Why should he ? Haven't those kind of posts been done before even if they are selfish "fix this posts" developers don't respond unless its a cookie cutter response or Foxboy decides to troll someone and then IWS is the only CPM that chimes in and if people aren't talking about furries or his personal profile it's usually his typical garbage above...
fairly clueless... |
Jooki Chewaka
Stalking Wolfpack
75
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Posted - 2014.01.07 15:39:00 -
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Well, i agree with the OP, i mean, CCP did something wrong here, there are a lot of mistakes CCP Reykjavik did back on its day and CCP Shanghai is doing once again... which tells me poor comunication between the two. Lack of consistency EVE<>DUST... which tells me poor comunication between the two. And third, why release a shooter on a console, when its big brother is on PC? seriously, nowdays, less than 4000 guys still play this game, no wonder why things go so slow, because their money income is tiny... i dare to say that if they had released this game on PC 2/3 of eve community would play it.
But still, the money problem ain't that much, they have other sources of income, the problem is the poor comunication and testing, they give a new patch: "WE'VE IMPROVED THE VEHICLE PHISICS" aha, i see tanks fly... is that an improvement? have you tried this pile of stool?
Another thing that bugs me, and when i spoke about repeating mistakes CCP Reykjavik did, I'm talking about tiericide (among a few)... standard? advanced? proto? Where are the freikkin meta levels? where is the frikkin TII ? and this could also be accounted as consistency issues. The nice thing about eve's tech 2 (TII) is the hability of use advanced ammo... now dust suffers from issues with weaponry, just yesterday i saw more than 3 posts talking about the laser rifle being useless, so here's a good idea for solving this issue and expand the features and gameplay of the game: people wants the laser to do same damage on close range as the rail rifle, they why not get rid of tiers, make TII weapons and allow to use different kind of ammo, close range high damage ammo, long range low damage ammo, but also keep the weapons in its niche, close range ammo with laser and rail rifle should still do less damage than close range ammo Assault rifle, and long range Assault rifle and close range Rail rifle should overlap, the way they do on eve, with differences of course, when it comes to damage and tracking, they should find way to add a stat that could replace tracking but also be meaningful to the merc weapons. This would add a whole new gameplay to game, new playstyles, and solve an issue, which is that eeeeevery one uses the rail rifle. They could have seen this in advance, CCP Shanghai should have get Eve and bring it down from orbit, but instead they just took the aesthetycs, the idea of skills and done a wannabe thing, anything else.
There are plenty of solutions, if they listened to players a year and a half ago, another mistake CCP Reykjavik did was release bad implemented features when other old stuff needed to be overhauled, for example: Incarna, the shet hitting the fan was so huge that it took more than one year for CCP to recover from the ammount of people that unsubscrived, and CCP Shanghai is doing the same now, they "solved" protostomping by tank stomping, and also added new weapons, and customers and helping on that, people asking for jetpacks? seriously? we've got flying tanks and people ask for jetpacks? whats wrong with you!?
See you from orbit
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
11650
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Posted - 2014.01.07 16:23:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:
Here we go again Iron Wolf trying to downplay the truth, don't get me wrong this guy is beating a dead horse.. But hey, at least he's beating it and not Pulling a IWS and brushing its hair and still pretending its just one fence away from jumping through greener pastures.. You're Call Of Duty analogy is just ******** because CCP is not a beginner or small company anymore, they aren't starting with a Dust board game and moving their way out of the basement.. You being a face of the community should probably quit acting like they are and face facts, instead of trying to cover them up with some kind of meta score from a game that has not a god damn thing to do with Dust or CCP..
Even if Dust development team may be small they came out of the corner swinging talking about picking up millions of players and their immersive AAA title... Us vets have seen and heard developers talking the talk and they continue to drop the ball patch after patch.. I'm sure you know this but if CCP could be humble for once and come out and talk to the community about their failed vision maybe we wouldn't continue to have posts like this.. Maybe actually COMMUNICATE with the COMMUNITY, not pull an IWS and always telling the community they are asking for too much and assuming to much for this supposed small company offering us a F2P game..........
I think a lot of us have lost faith in CCP im sure even their vision is further from the 10yr mark then they would like to admit... Even if they are following some garage developers release and rebuild moto, with the time and placement of this game, it shouldn't be this broken, plain and simple...
For the people wanting this guy to add some kind of detailed information for the community to discuss and developers to dig through... Why should he ? Haven't those kind of posts been done before even if they are selfish "fix this posts" developers don't respond unless its a cookie cutter response or Foxboy decides to troll someone and then IWS is the only CPM that chimes in and if people aren't talking about furries or his personal profile it's usually his typical garbage above...
Show me on the furry fox doll where the mean ol iron wolf touched you. Because someone around here doesn't know how to do underhand reading when needed so.
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Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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Meee One
Clones Of The Damned Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:27:00 -
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Troll/rant thread was a success! Good job OP! You presented 0 constructive ideas AND you insulted CCP(a 0 tolerance offence). But may i ask...where is YOUR perfectly balanced FPS located? I assume it's F2P too? |
Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
378
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:52:00 -
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Can we please stop giving this entitled brat (and other entitled brats like him) attention.
Who cares what some sniper has to say
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agent caron
DUST University Ivy League
5
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Posted - 2014.01.08 01:26:00 -
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I do not mean to make annyone angry or upset, but instead of posting about how much you hate the game mabey you can post about what you think can be done to fix it. I myself do belive that dust has some issues,and even though i might not agree with all of your points. I do think that this should be a constructive place.
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agent caron
DUST University Ivy League
5
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Posted - 2014.01.08 01:28:00 -
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JH P wrote: 4. Receptions
This is to show that I am NOT the only one who thinks like this.
Metacritic 59/100 IGN 5.8/10 GameSpot 4/10 Game Rankings 59.1/100
Do I need to say more?
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
1052
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Posted - 2014.01.08 01:52:00 -
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I am not impressed with this rant. I've seen much better rants. This one is a failure by comparison.
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage is more lethal.
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