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Eurydice Itzhak
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
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Posted - 2014.01.06 08:02:00 -
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2 high 2 low jumps to 1 high 4 low.
Dat logic Ccp. |
Azura Sakura
Blood Eye Ravens
546
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Posted - 2014.01.06 08:03:00 -
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I'm not a pro scout but what is so bad about that? More stamina and speed <3 |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2016
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Posted - 2014.01.06 08:06:00 -
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They do the same with Heavy frames. That's why I stick with the ADV - gotta have the 2x Damage Mods.
Beer before Liquor, never sicker.
Toothpaste before Orange Juice, you're dead.
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HYENAKILLER X
AGGRESSIVE TYPE
468
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Posted - 2014.01.06 08:11:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:2 high 2 low jumps to 1 high 4 low.
Dat logic Ccp. True scout in this game is about stealth and not durability or damage.
Low slots equip dampeners.
You are welcome for my leadership
*Proven Aggressive Type
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Eurydice Itzhak
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
300
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Posted - 2014.01.06 08:13:00 -
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The progression is stupid. 1 2 becomes 2 2 becomes 1 4.
Adv should be 1 3 |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
405
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Posted - 2014.01.06 08:13:00 -
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Rather have 3 lows and 1 high on advanced, but that's just me. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1887
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Posted - 2014.01.06 08:25:00 -
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I think it will be changed in the future, but I hope they keep it or reintroduce it as a side suit at advanced.
It could be Gallente's take on the Minmatar scout.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Eurydice Itzhak
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
300
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Posted - 2014.01.06 08:36:00 -
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I really feel sorry for Amarr scouts when they come out. 1 1 layout at pro I'm sure.
It's funny being in one role for so long (vehicles) and switching over to infantry and seeing all the stupid design choices from a whole new perspective.
High slots have extenders and dmods. Low slots have armor, codebreakers, stamina, kincats, dampeners, etc etc etc. |
BuTtHuRtPEepZ
Raging Pack of Homosapiens
141
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Posted - 2014.01.06 08:37:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:2 high 2 low jumps to 1 high 4 low.
Dat logic Ccp.
back during the early beta, there was only 1 scout, the gallente. At the time, the proto scout fitting had the setup:
3 H 2 L 1 E
When the Minmatar scout came about, CCP wanted that setup to belong to the minmatar's while the speed/stealth setup belonged to the Gallente. CCP only changed the proto level scout setup and after some time, players began using the neo proto scout to fulfill their slot setup needs until the neo scout was also changed. CCP has yet to correct this confusion since they have had other things to work on, but this explains why the gallente scout follows the pattern:
mlt: 1 H, 1 L std: 1 H 2 L adv: 2 H 2 L pro: 1 H 4 L
instead it used to be:
mlt: 1 H 1 L std: 1 H 2 L adv: 2 H 2 L pro: 3 H 2 L
i know this since I was trying to be a thale sniper with the scout suit.
I personally think the current gallente scout setup should be:
mlt: 1 H 1 L std: 1 H 2 L adv: 1 H 3 L pro: 1 H 4 L
this is to emphasize the use of catyzers for speed and dampeners for stealth. |
Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
528
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Posted - 2014.01.06 08:43:00 -
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no, beta proto scout used to be 3 high slots 3 low slots. Uprising Scouts are missing a slot from their beta counter-parts.
Mk.0 had 3 highs, light weapon, sidearm, equipment, 3 lows. 100 shields, 70 armor
Mk.1 had 3 highs, Light weapon, 2 equipment, 3 lows, 70 shields, 130 armor
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
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BuTtHuRtPEepZ
Raging Pack of Homosapiens
141
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Posted - 2014.01.06 08:45:00 -
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Oh yeah, something like that. I didnt remember exactly. |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
822
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Posted - 2014.01.06 08:58:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:2 high 2 low jumps to 1 high 4 low.
Dat logic Ccp.
I know right, why does the adv get an extra high slot. WTH?
I think the Gal adv should he 1H/3L for the adv slot layout. This is more in keeping with the Gal combat philosophy. Don't know why CCP did it the way they did.
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BuTtHuRtPEepZ
Raging Pack of Homosapiens
142
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Posted - 2014.01.06 09:01:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Eurydice Itzhak wrote:2 high 2 low jumps to 1 high 4 low.
Dat logic Ccp. I know right, why does the adv get an extra high slot. WTH? I think the Gal adv should he 1H/3L for the adv slot layout. This is more in keeping with the Gal combat philosophy. Don't know why CCP did it the way they did.
please read my explanation above. This all goes back to the beta |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
822
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Posted - 2014.01.06 09:05:00 -
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BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote:Eurydice Itzhak wrote:2 high 2 low jumps to 1 high 4 low.
Dat logic Ccp. back during the early beta, there was only 1 scout, the gallente. At the time, the proto scout fitting had the setup: 3 H 2 L 1 E
Man your memory is really terrible, hunh? Here the actual pre uprising scout slot layout at proto
vk.0
3H 1Lt 1Sa 1G 2Eq 3L
vk.1
3H 1Lt 1G 3Eq 3L
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BuTtHuRtPEepZ
Raging Pack of Homosapiens
143
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Posted - 2014.01.06 09:11:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote:Eurydice Itzhak wrote:2 high 2 low jumps to 1 high 4 low.
Dat logic Ccp. back during the early beta, there was only 1 scout, the gallente. At the time, the proto scout fitting had the setup: 3 H 2 L 1 E Man your memory is really terrible, hunh? Here the actual pre uprising scout slot layout at proto vk.0 3H 1Lt 1Sa 1G 2Eq 3L vk.1 3H 1Lt 1G 3Eq 3L
Oh yeah! there were 2 proto suits! I exclusively run amaar assault now so that memory is way in the back of my mind. I ran scout exclusively as a sniper but never made it to the proto. I had been saving up SP for it for some time but stopped playing for Dark Souls. Its been a long time since then man. but thanks for the correction. |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
823
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Posted - 2014.01.06 09:22:00 -
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BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote:Eurydice Itzhak wrote:2 high 2 low jumps to 1 high 4 low.
Dat logic Ccp. back during the early beta, there was only 1 scout, the gallente. At the time, the proto scout fitting had the setup: 3 H 2 L 1 E Man your memory is really terrible, hunh? Here the actual pre uprising scout slot layout at proto vk.0 3H 1Lt 1Sa 1G 2Eq 3L vk.1 3H 1Lt 1G 3Eq 3L Oh yeah! there were 2 proto suits! I exclusively run amaar assault now so that memory is way in the back of my mind. I ran scout exclusively as a sniper but never made it to the proto. I had been saving up SP for it for some time but stopped playing for Dark Souls. Its been a long time since then man. but thanks for the correction.
Not only did you miss the extra slot but you also missed an extra low slot. And I am pretty sure that the current Gal proto has always been 1H/4L, so I don't know where the hell you're coming up with that other stuff you were talking about.
As to why the Gal S adv has 2/2 it is a mistery that I have try's to unravel in several threads but CCP never responds to me (it might be because I am a bit of an @$$hole sometimes, don't think they like me very much).
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
823
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Posted - 2014.01.06 09:24:00 -
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Anyway the adv Gal scout definitely needs to be changed to 1H/3L
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
219
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Posted - 2014.01.06 10:23:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Rather have 3 lows and 1 high on advanced, but that's just me.
YES YOU SO ARE RIGHT
I want more low slots FFS
War never changes
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
219
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Posted - 2014.01.06 10:29:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:I really feel sorry for Amarr scouts when they come out. 1 1 layout at pro I'm sure.
It's funny being in one role for so long (vehicles) and switching over to infantry and seeing all the stupid design choices from a whole new perspective.
High slots have extenders and dmods. Low slots have armor, codebreakers, stamina, kincats, dampeners, etc etc etc.
Must every race have al the suits? 4 me amar is to proud to sneak around and sh-ít.
I am kind of ok with that al races don't have the same suit in al tiers.
War never changes
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
823
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Posted - 2014.01.06 10:50:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Eurydice Itzhak wrote:I really feel sorry for Amarr scouts when they come out. 1 1 layout at pro I'm sure.
It's funny being in one role for so long (vehicles) and switching over to infantry and seeing all the stupid design choices from a whole new perspective.
High slots have extenders and dmods. Low slots have armor, codebreakers, stamina, kincats, dampeners, etc etc etc. Must every race have al the suits? 4 me amar is to proud to sneak around and sh-ít. I am kind of ok with that al races don't have the same suit in al tiers.
What?
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BuTtHuRtPEepZ
Raging Pack of Homosapiens
148
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Posted - 2014.01.06 15:26:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote:Eurydice Itzhak wrote:2 high 2 low jumps to 1 high 4 low.
Dat logic Ccp. back during the early beta, there was only 1 scout, the gallente. At the time, the proto scout fitting had the setup: 3 H 2 L 1 E Man your memory is really terrible, hunh? Here the actual pre uprising scout slot layout at proto vk.0 3H 1Lt 1Sa 1G 2Eq 3L vk.1 3H 1Lt 1G 3Eq 3L Oh yeah! there were 2 proto suits! I exclusively run amaar assault now so that memory is way in the back of my mind. I ran scout exclusively as a sniper but never made it to the proto. I had been saving up SP for it for some time but stopped playing for Dark Souls. Its been a long time since then man. but thanks for the correction. Not only did you miss the extra suit but you also missed an extra low slot. And I am pretty sure that the current Gal proto has always been 1H/4L, so I don't know where the hell you're coming up with that other stuff you were talking about. As to why the Gal S adv has 2/2 it is a mistery that I have tried to unravel in several threads but CCP never responds to me (it might be because I am a bit of an @$$hole sometimes, don't think they like me very much). {edit>>> in the first sentence I said slot instead of suit.
when the new racial suits were introduced the gallente scout proto changed slot layout to be 1H4L, but the neo scout variant retained it's vk.0 slot layout for some time.
as for why the adv is 2L2H instead of 1L3H, CCP forgot to change it to match the consistency between the basic and the proto. |
Sgt Buttscratch
1251
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Posted - 2014.01.06 15:29:00 -
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worse time of my scouts life was waiting for proto, I mainly ran my dragonfly BPO scout suit. ADV seemed like more monet than worth. should have gone MLT/STD 1/2 ADV 1/3 PRO 2/4
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Onesimus Tarsus
752
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Posted - 2014.01.06 15:35:00 -
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The argument could be made that the current ADV GalScout layout allows for a harder-hitting option for Proto GalScout sneakiness. Run on your skilled dampening, put in two damage mods and armor up the other slots. If skilled well, you're still ok for stealth and you're deadlier to boot.
I got my hand around the pistol grip, and the safety's off.
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
241
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Posted - 2014.01.06 15:58:00 -
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Remember the scout that had 2 equipment slots and no sidearm?
What I would do to have it back...
The biggest threat to my scout is everything.
My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
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Onesimus Tarsus
752
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Posted - 2014.01.06 16:56:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Remember the scout that had 2 equipment slots and no sidearm?
What I would do to have it back... Indeed!
I got my hand around the pistol grip, and the safety's off.
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Onesimus Tarsus
752
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Posted - 2014.01.06 17:22:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:I really feel sorry for Amarr scouts when they come out. 1 1 layout at pro I'm sure.
It's funny being in one role for so long (vehicles) and switching over to infantry and seeing all the stupid design choices from a whole new perspective.
High slots have extenders and dmods. Low slots have armor, codebreakers, stamina, kincats, dampeners, etc etc etc.
As long as the CPU and Power was sky high and base armor was ditto, and you gave the Amarr proto scout two light weapons slots and two equipment slots, I'm pretty sure no one would complain much (well, they would, but it would be at the DACL (dust average complaint level)).
I got my hand around the pistol grip, and the safety's off.
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