DUST Search - Pros and Cons of Rail Rifle.

Fizzer94 wrote:

Kierkegaard Soren wrote:

Cons: spool up time can make firing from cover slightly awkward.
Recoil is noticeable, and can make sniping from a distance difficult.
1) Low clip(Magazine!) count, 2) not the fastest at reloading either.
3) Low bullet velocity compared to other rifles. You will need to lead your shots,makes a modicum of skill to do so.
Skilled players can zig-zag around your fire.

Pros: hits like a brick that has been welded to another, bigger, meaner brick.
Optimal range and damage application makes the scrambler rifle cry sad, sad tears.
Tier scaling on RR is insane. Advanced feels like proto. Proto feels like officer. Officer will probably feel like the wrath of God himself.
Much better in CQC than it has any right to be.
It' looks like it's from the Future, where the Future is awesome and shiny.

1) No. Just no. Some weapons, such as the Plasma Cannon, Shotgun, or ScP have small mag sizes, but the Rail Rifles magazine is not small.
2) Actually, it is the fastest at reloading and is tied with the ScR for that title with a 2.0 second reload.
3) Hitscan. There is no bullet travel speed in Dust for any of the rifles.

Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.

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Jade Dragonis GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 271	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:59:00 - [1] - Quote What are your thoughts? Forged again? Your welcome.
Ivy Zalinto Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 237	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:02:00 - [2] - Quote Bright blue flash in close quarters situations is very disorienting when reflecting off the grey wall. Terrible against shielding but its supposed to be. Quite good against armor. Needs a touch more range to actually stand out as a long range weapon but thats an opinion. Dedicated Stealth Scout. Scout instructor; Learning Coalition Scrambler Pistol dedication
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 3576	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:04:00 - [3] - Quote Pros: Everything Cons: Nothing Confirmed, Rail Rifle is OP. Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
Kierkegaard Soren Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 76	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:06:00 - [4] - Quote Cons: spool up time can make firing from cover slightly awkward. Recoil is noticeable, and can make sniping from a distance difficult. Low clip count, not the fastest at reloading either. Low bullet velocity compared to other rifles. You will need to lead your shots,makes a modicum of skill to do so. Skilled players can zig-zag around your fire. Pros: hits like a brick that has been welded to another, bigger, meaner brick. Optimal range and damage application makes the scrambler rifle cry sad, sad tears. Tier scaling on RR is insane. Advanced feels like proto. Proto feels like officer. Officer will probably feel like the wrath of God himself. Much better in CQC than it has any right to be. It' looks like it's from the Future, where the Future is awesome and shiny. Dedicated Commando. So it's a good job KDR doesn't bother me, really.
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 159	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:06:00 - [5] - Quote The con is that it has a smaller clip than a hmg, and less range than a large railgun.
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 437	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:12:00 - [6] - Quote Kierkegaard Soren wrote: Cons: spool up time can make firing from cover slightly awkward. Recoil is noticeable, and can make sniping from a distance difficult. Low clip count, not the fastest at reloading either. Low bullet velocity compared to other rifles. You will need to lead your shots,makes a modicum of skill to do so. Skilled players can zig-zag around your fire. Pros: hits like a brick that has been welded to another, bigger, meaner brick. Optimal range and damage application makes the scrambler rifle cry sad, sad tears. Tier scaling on RR is insane. Advanced feels like proto. Proto feels like officer. Officer will probably feel like the wrath of God himself. Much better in CQC than it has any right to be. It' looks like it's from the Future, where the Future is awesome and shiny. No new officer weapons look for them to stop giving out them in matches soon (tm) We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2794	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:12:00 - [7] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: Bright blue flash in close quarters situations is very disorienting when reflecting off the grey wall. Terrible against shielding but its supposed to be. Quite good against armor. Needs a touch more range to actually stand out as a long range weapon but thats an opinion. Needs more range!?!?!? Are you f*cking kidding me? No.
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 330	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:31:00 - [8] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: Terrible against shielding but its supposed to be. Quite good against armor. -10% efficiency +10% efficiency. It's not really "terrible" against shields, but it does seem to chew through armor with an ease that suggests more than +10%. Amarr HAV Speculation
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1899	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:41:00 - [9] - Quote I'm good with it but I think it is clumsy, slow and lacks any kind of class, its just a brick with a nice rubber chin rest. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1287	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:44:00 - [10] - Quote Kierkegaard Soren wrote: Cons: spool up time can make firing from cover slightly awkward. Recoil is noticeable, and can make sniping from a distance difficult. 1) *Low clip(Magazine!) count, 2) not the fastest at reloading either. 3) Low bullet velocity compared to other rifles. You will need to lead your shots,makes a modicum of skill to do so. Skilled players can zig-zag around your fire. Pros: hits like a brick that has been welded to another, bigger, meaner brick. Optimal range and damage application makes the scrambler rifle cry sad, sad tears. Tier scaling on RR is insane. Advanced feels like proto. Proto feels like officer. Officer will probably feel like the wrath of God himself. Much better in CQC than it has any right to be. It' looks like it's from the Future, where the Future is awesome and shiny. 1) No. Just no. Some weapons, such as the Plasma Cannon, Shotgun, or ScP have small mag sizes, but the Rail Rifles magazine is not small. 2) Actually, it is the fastest at reloading and is tied with the ScR for that title with a 2.0 second reload. 3) Hitscan. There is no bullet travel speed in Dust for any of the rifles. Fizzer94 // Level 1 Forum Warrior // PLASMA CANNONS ARE REALLY BAD NOW, FIX THEM!*

Ivy Zalinto Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 238	Posted - 2014.01.05 06:38:00 - [11] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Ivy Zalinto wrote: Bright blue flash in close quarters situations is very disorienting when reflecting off the grey wall. Terrible against shielding but its supposed to be. Quite good against armor. Needs a touch more range to actually stand out as a long range weapon but thats an opinion. Needs more range!?!?!? Are you f*cking kidding me? When you run a scout suit the rifle types dont show much difference in their stats. Yes these rifles have more range and the dps varies in the longer runs (aka the medium suits and larger heavies) but when you factor low hp to rate of fire and damage it just seems like im consistently outranged. Though yes I am aware I have much less armor than that of other suits. I suppose you have a point but at the same time I would like to see the rifles stand out more in their own categories. Its a back and forth when your in a scout though...I trade less screen clutter (you have been scanned!) for more frustration and less combat lifespan. Dedicated Stealth Scout. Scout instructor; Learning Coalition Scrambler Pistol dedication
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5344	Posted - 2014.01.05 06:42:00 - [12] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Kierkegaard Soren wrote: Cons: spool up time can make firing from cover slightly awkward. Recoil is noticeable, and can make sniping from a distance difficult. 1) *Low clip(Magazine!) count, 2) not the fastest at reloading either. 3) Low bullet velocity compared to other rifles*. You will need to lead your shots,makes a modicum of skill to do so. Skilled players can zig-zag around your fire. Pros: hits like a brick that has been welded to another, bigger, meaner brick. Optimal range and damage application makes the scrambler rifle cry sad, sad tears. Tier scaling on RR is insane. Advanced feels like proto. Proto feels like officer. Officer will probably feel like the wrath of God himself. Much better in CQC than it has any right to be. It' looks like it's from the Future, where the Future is awesome and shiny. 1) No. Just no. Some weapons, such as the Plasma Cannon, Shotgun, or ScP have small mag sizes, but the Rail Rifles magazine is not small. 2) Actually, it is the fastest at reloading and is tied with the ScR for that title with a 2.0 second reload. 3) Hitscan. There is no bullet travel speed in Dust for any of the rifles. Actually the slowest reloading rifle at 3.6 seconds. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 480	Posted - 2014.01.05 06:51:00 - [13] - Quote At it's Rof you can kill any standard to advanced suit within the first 9-10 ahots using a standard RR, you can kill any scout(save 600 hp galscout, who isn't a scout) Within 2-4 shots max, and it's unbelievably accurate meaning people even slightly competent in controller aiming can counteract it and besides, only 2-4 shots need to hit anyways, right? Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) I have a God, His name is Dakka.
Prince Adidas Horizons' Edge 20	Posted - 2014.01.05 06:51:00 - [14] - Quote Pros: Long range, decent rate of fire, very good damage (a little OP if you ask me), fast reload speed. Cons: Bad clip size, low ammo, slow scope/zoom-in movement, glitch/hack that takes out your ammo/doesn't do damage to enemy. Overall, it's good for me. It's like having a mini Blaster Installation in your hands. Rookie With Little DUST Knowledge. Online Almost Everyday. Prototype Heavy, Kaalakiota Rail Rifle FCHW
Aria Gomes Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising 257	Posted - 2014.01.05 07:22:00 - [15] - Quote Cons: ammo drains fast and the kick Pros: hits hard Both a con and pro depending on the situation is the blue light that flashes when you're shooting the gun. It lets your enemy know you're using a RR as well as helps you find enemy RR users. I think it's: ScR -- golden yellow AR -- yellow CR -- orangey yellow RR -- blue I think the colors are right, someone can let me know whatever is wrong
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1321	Posted - 2014.01.05 07:33:00 - [16] - Quote I didn't know the RR had cons.....
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 374	Posted - 2014.01.05 07:35:00 - [17] - Quote Pro: If you catch someone in the open you will melt them Con: In CQC areas with lots of cover, a smart opponent will easily be able to take advantage of your .25 second charge time by popping in and out of cover, picking away at you while you are unable to return fire. Think about tactics Who cares what some sniper has to say
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 731	Posted - 2014.01.05 07:54:00 - [18] - Quote Dat spool up time its what i use to kill RR users with my combat rifle. keep in mind that this + your clip size is the weakness, as you have two choices risk having to re-spool or drain your mag and risk getting cought on a reload.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3665	Posted - 2014.01.05 07:56:00 - [19] - Quote It has cons? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2800	Posted - 2014.01.05 08:21:00 - [20] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Ivy Zalinto wrote: Bright blue flash in close quarters situations is very disorienting when reflecting off the grey wall. Terrible against shielding but its supposed to be. Quite good against armor. Needs a touch more range to actually stand out as a long range weapon but thats an opinion. Needs more range!?!?!? Are you f*cking kidding me? When you run a scout suit the rifle types dont show much difference in their stats. Yes these rifles have more range and the dps varies in the longer runs (aka the medium suits and larger heavies) but when you factor low hp to rate of fire and damage it just seems like im consistently outranged. Though yes I am aware I have much less armor than that of other suits. I suppose you have a point but at the same time I would like to see the rifles stand out more in their own categories. Its a back and forth when your in a scout though...I trade less screen clutter (you have been scanned!) for more frustration and less combat lifespan. You're using both your suit and the weapon wrong. No.

Jade Dragonis GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 271	Posted - 2014.01.05 11:06:00 - [21] - Quote Thanks all. Will be making the video today (5th Jan) so hope I don't miss anything. O7 Forged again? Your welcome.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 803	Posted - 2014.01.05 11:15:00 - [22] - Quote Jade Dragonis wrote: What are your thoughts? That you should try one for yourself and see if you like it. {:)}{3GÇó> "I came here to chew bubblegum and kick @$$, and I'm all out of bubblegum."
Jade Dragonis GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 271	Posted - 2014.01.05 11:47:00 - [23] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Jade Dragonis wrote: What are your thoughts? That you should try one for yourself and see if you like it. The point of asking was to gauge the thoughts of others and not only my blinkered view. Makes for a more rounded video. Forged again? Your welcome.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1475	Posted - 2014.01.05 12:29:00 - [24] - Quote Rail rifle is like pre-nerf Assault rifle 2.0. It has to much ammo (an equivalent breach AR had less DPS, less range, AND less ammo), to much range, it out classes every gun at any range, and it's drawbacks are like a drop in a lake. It's just way to good at everything, more than it should be. It's DPS should definitely be lowered so it's not so good at CQC, and the range of other guns increased slightly and decrease their DPS as their range increases. Long range weapons should not have high DPS, I can't stress this enough, when a long range weapon has the same DPS as a short range weapon then the long range weapon will always be better period.


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