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King0fHearts Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2014.01.04 14:25:00 - [1] - Quote Does anyone else feel this game needs the PSN trophy system? I don't want to just play but to show the world how good I'm at by unlocking as many trophy's in the game as I can. Also what about Ranks? When ever I play a war style game I also feel that it helps to know how good the players around me are or for how long they have been playing.
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention 666	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:24:00 - [2] - Quote I agree with both... Tanks 514! Cheap, fast, Indestrucbible and you see tankers telling it's balanced... Just makes you want to quit this BS
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1180	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:50:00 - [3] - Quote King0fHearts wrote: Does anyone else feel this game needs the PSN trophy system? I don't want to just play but to show the world how good I'm at by unlocking as many trophy's in the game as I can. Also what about Ranks? When ever I play a war style game I also feel that it helps to know how good the players around me are or for how long they have been playing. This is exactly why I hope CCP never implements a trophy or rank system. This kind of mechanic is always a distraction from the actual mechanics of play and only leads to players doing stupid things so that they can earn said trophy or rank. You want rank? Look at your standings or the weekly kills or WP boards. Want a trophy? Just wait. Eve has a way that corp leaders can award trophies to other players for any action them deem amazing. Making the trophies player run will just heighten the immersive qualities of the game. PSN trophies will destroy it. Fun > Realism
King0fHearts Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:59:00 - [4] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: King0fHearts wrote: Does anyone else feel this game needs the PSN trophy system? I don't want to just play but to show the world how good I'm at by unlocking as many trophy's in the game as I can. Also what about Ranks? When ever I play a war style game I also feel that it helps to know how good the players around me are or for how long they have been playing. This is exactly why I hope CCP never implements a trophy or rank system. This kind of mechanic is always a distraction from the actual mechanics of play and only leads to players doing stupid things so that they can earn said trophy or rank. You want rank? Look at your standings or the weekly kills or WP boards. Want a trophy? Just wait. Eve has a way that corp leaders can award trophies to other players for any action them deem amazing. Making the trophies player run will just heighten the immersive qualities of the game. PSN trophies will destroy it. Do you mind explaining your self more? The way I see things, I see people "doing stupid things" everyday just so they can update there skills or buy new toys. How is this different in your opinion. I've played all kinds of war type games or first person shooters and the PS3 game that I stuck with the longest was Warhawk. It took me exactly a year before I hit the rank of General at that point people where fighting over me due to I could win the game with "ANY" weapon the game had. I was that good because I wanted to be the best and also get the platinum where you had to have 1k kills to unlock the trophy for that weapon. I hate getting killed due to some newbie not knowing what they are doing. If Dust had a "good" ranking system we would know who knows what they are doing and who's the newbie. If you ask me I think this would end up making people want to stay longer with the game and this ends up being a win/win for everyone. More players more fun for everyone.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 953	Posted - 2014.01.04 21:05:00 - [5] - Quote King0fHearts wrote: Does anyone else feel this game needs the PSN trophy system? I don't want to just play but to show the world how good I'm at by unlocking as many trophy's in the game as I can. Also what about Ranks? When ever I play a war style game I also feel that it helps to know how good the players around me are or for how long they have been playing. Maybe in Faction Warfare in the future. Eve has ranks there. Tank spam getting onto your nerves? An improvement:
Draco Cerberus BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 647	Posted - 2014.01.04 21:10:00 - [6] - Quote Why not player built medals? Eve has a reward system for players by players. The CEO designs the medal and hands it out to the individuals deserving of the reward. LogiGod earns his pips
King0fHearts Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2014.01.04 22:29:00 - [7] - Quote Draco Cerberus wrote: Why not player built medals? Eve has a reward system for players by players. The CEO designs the medal and hands it out to the individuals deserving of the reward. But who does that really help? Would this just be eyecandy for the owner? Let me put this another way... Ranks would help clan members find the best players to add to there clans it would also help people on the battlefield know who has the most experiencer Trophies would let everyone on PSN know what you have done in the game. Also help better clans find you. Also lets you be more well rounded player by making you learn more skillz.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6263	Posted - 2014.01.04 22:32:00 - [8] - Quote I agree that it would be nice to have it, but it's not something we should be worrying about at this point in development. Perhaps later on once we have all the core features of the game in place. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
King0fHearts Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2014.01.04 22:33:00 - [9] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: King0fHearts wrote: Does anyone else feel this game needs the PSN trophy system? I don't want to just play but to show the world how good I'm at by unlocking as many trophy's in the game as I can. Also what about Ranks? When ever I play a war style game I also feel that it helps to know how good the players around me are or for how long they have been playing. Maybe in Faction Warfare in the future. Eve has ranks there. The point would have to be to let everyone know who you are how good you are and how long you have been playing. Just like in the real U.S military.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1181	Posted - 2014.01.04 22:45:00 - [10] - Quote Getting 1k kills with a weapon doesn't mean you're good with it. All it tells a recruiting corp is that you did some grinding with that particular gun. That right there is part of my issue with the whole medals/ranking system. It doesn't actually tell a corp anything about you as a player. More valuable stats are: WP/Death Ratio Kill/Death Ratio Total SP Weekly KDR Weekly WP Total WP Total Deaths Total Kills Using those stats a corp can infer all they need to know about a given merc. If a person just grinds a ton but isn't really that good the KDR and we WPDR will clearly show it. Having ranks just places an artifical barrier between a merc and someone calling them an asset to a corp. Any corp worth their salt would rather have a player who is new but can consistently perform well over an older merc who grinds away at things but actually is a poor player. Fun > Realism

King0fHearts Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2014.01.04 23:12:00 - [11] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Getting 1k kills with a weapon doesn't mean you're good with it. All it tells a recruiting corp is that you did some grinding with that particular gun. That right there is part of my issue with the whole medals/ranking system. It doesn't actually tell a corp anything about you as a player. More valuable stats are: WP/Death Ratio Kill/Death Ratio Total SP Weekly KDR Weekly WP Total WP Total Deaths Total Kills Using those stats a corp can infer all they need to know about a given merc. If a person just grinds a ton but isn't really that good the KDR and we WPDR will clearly show it. Having ranks just places an artifical barrier between a merc and someone calling them an asset to a corp. Any corp worth their salt would rather have a player who is new but can consistently perform well over an older merc who grinds away at things but actually is a poor player. If I had my own Corp I would take someone that had over 1k kills with a weapon over someone that got 5 kills with that weapon. As for your stats they don't show that your good at what you do. It would be very easy for someone to be a Sniper and get 2 kills no deaths per game and have a very high K/D Ratio. But Snipers only work when on defense so a player like that would not get wins for your recruiting Corp or give a clear idea of what is really going on. Any newbie could have a high K/D if they wanted to. You go in and talk about all these stats but in my mind it would be nice to know how long a player has been playing the game. You listed "total SP" in your list why not just let people rank up with "SP". If it was up to me I would make General 100 million SP. Could even unlock items with ranks.
Emo Ghost 38	Posted - 2014.01.05 23:00:00 - [12] - Quote Going for the platinum then. :P -ê(n+ÇGêç´)-ê
Kharga Lum Xeno Labs Security 183	Posted - 2014.01.05 23:52:00 - [13] - Quote Ranks should be earned through the FW system or through your member corporation. The same for any awards, tittles or trophies.
Prangstar RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 202	Posted - 2014.01.06 02:43:00 - [14] - Quote throphies are part of a finished product, which this game is far from. Ranks don't fit the game because it doesn't mean nothing. More important are the stats you see when aiming at someone, this will tell you his rank better then an actual rank ever will.
shadow tongue Tripoint Mercetile Rimrunners Universal Rockstars 0	Posted - 2014.01.06 03:06:00 - [15] - Quote King0fHearts wrote: [quote=Mobius Kaethis]Getting 1k kills with a weapon doesn't mean you're good with it. All it tells a recruiting corp is that you did some grinding with that particular gun. That right there is part of my issue with the whole medals/ranking system. It doesn't actually tell a corp anything about you as a player. More valuable stats are: WP/Death Ratio Kill/Death Ratio Total SP Weekly KDR Weekly WP Total WP Total Deaths Total Kills Using those stats a corp can infer all they need to know about a given merc. If a person just grinds a ton but isn't really that good the KDR and we WPDR will clearly show it. Having ranks just places an artifical barrier between a merc and someone calling them an asset to a corp. Any corp worth their salt would rather have a player who is new but can consistently perform well over an older merc who grinds away at things but actually is a poor player. If I had my own Corp I would take someone that had over 1k kills with a weapon over someone that got 5 kills with that weapon. /quote] honesty just because someone has 1k kills with a weapon does not mean there good with the weapon it just means that the could have grinded with it. Say someone has 2k kills with an AR I know for a fact all starter suits have ARs so that means they could have grinded with it. all it says is that they used it a lot.
zibathy numbertwo Nox Aeterna Security 323	Posted - 2014.01.06 03:49:00 - [16] - Quote Trophies inspire longer playtime, in hopes to acquire them. That's a good thing. You're literally mentally disabled if you argue with that. Reminder that this is a console MMOFPS, not EvE Online. Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Proficiency V. 838	Posted - 2014.03.28 21:42:00 - [17] - Quote I want ranks ... it would be really could If we could have those. DUST BRASIL S.A (DBSA) *DIRECTOR* We have ringers available (Contact: Sadashi or Necandi Brasil)
Skullmizer Vulcansu Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.03.28 23:00:00 - [18] - Quote I think that trophies are stupid. That is why I turned those notifications off on my system. They make me feel obligated to do things that I wouldn't do normally.
Xaviah Reaper Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 405	Posted - 2014.03.28 23:02:00 - [19] - Quote King0fHearts wrote: Does anyone else feel this game needs the PSN trophy system? I don't want to just play but to show the world how good I'm at by unlocking as many trophy's in the game as I can. Also what about Ranks? When ever I play a war style game I also feel that it helps to know how good the players around me are or for how long they have been playing. dont care for trophies, never had.. I do care for SP ranks though. tier it off into 1m SP segments, and cap it at 50m + SP. Just read the damn thread
Draco Cerberus BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 844	Posted - 2014.03.28 23:50:00 - [20] - Quote King0fHearts wrote: Does anyone else feel this game needs the PSN trophy system? I don't want to just play but to show the world how good I'm at by unlocking as many trophy's in the game as I can. Also what about Ranks? When ever I play a war style game I also feel that it helps to know how good the players around me are or for how long they have been playing. So you want a trophy? This would reward you for logging in consecutively for say a maximum bonus of 6000SP 365 days in a row Trophy to show the world just how much of a no lifer you are? At the moment there are really no good ways to stroke a person's Epeen that outsiders to the community would really even be able to relate to. So the 5000wp in one match trophy would get handed out and people would say great another logi... lets get content to actually mean there is something to accomplish before considering assigning trophies such as wow a CB vet who hasn't stopped playing for more than a month at a time, a week at a time and a day at a time. Now those would be some rare trophies! LogiGod earns his pips



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