DUST Search - The Amarr are lucky.

True Adamance wrote:

Skilfer wrote:

Matobar wrote:

I think the issue here is that the Amarr believe their luck isn't luck at all, simply divine providence.

I for one believe everyone in New Eden is lucky that the Gallente and Amarr have not gone to war with one another yet.

Their confidence is as much rooted in fact as well as scripture.

The Imperial Navy has never deployed anywhere near its full capacity (not even 25%) to deal with anything, including the Jove, Minmatar Rebellion, the Elder Fleet, etc. If even a quarter of its true potential was directed at an entity, the results would be unfathomable.
The Empire has the largest population of all of the four empires with the largest standing army, which like the navy has never been even remotely dedicated towards a specific target.
While historically viewed as "behind the curve" in terms of technology, the Amarr have consistently been the ones who set the bar in terms of military technology, from constructing the first Proto Titan to creating our own predecessors, the original Templars.
Since Empress Jamyl ascended to the throne, the Empire has seen a monumental increase in technological advances and education.
While the other empires were dealing with much internal strife over the past couple years (i.e. Heth vs. Megacorps, Minmatar/Federation tensions, etc.) the Amarr were prospering.

The Empire did not get as large as it is today by being weak and primitive. Behind the scriptures lies a culture whose innovation could only be rivaled by the Caldari, and whose strategic and intellectual prowess has stood through the test of time. They are strong and united probably more than any other empire, and therefore should, if not feared, be watched a respected for the unprecedented strength they wield.

(( #1 where in the hell did you find that stat, Its beautiful))

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steadyhand amarr Bragian Order Amarr Empire 2126	Posted - 2014.01.09 22:58:00 - [31] - Quote the democratic thing about concord is that it must included people from all empires the moment you join concord you are long amarr.minmatar,cal,or gal you are concord though and though. which now i think about it was probably just a cleaver ploy by the empire to unit all races. Concord is set a mandate everything concord does is towards those goals...those goals never change I saw plenty of agents being very naughty on Cal prime and it was very telling that they were going to get into trouble for trying to help their race "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3190	Posted - 2014.01.10 00:24:00 - [32] - Quote The Amarr don't control CONC though. CONC is practically its own independent entity since it has jurisdiction just about everywhere and it has recently started to fund its self and even write its own laws. You wanna battle / Aztec's not afraid of you / I could care less about your reputation / Even though it maybe true.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5496	Posted - 2014.01.10 02:01:00 - [33] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: The Amarr don't control CONC though. CONC is practically its own independent entity since it has jurisdiction just about everywhere and it has recently started to fund its self and even write its own laws. Indeed and while CONCORD has a significant military presence....its laws are only as good as the Empires allowing them to be enforced. Clusterwide peace is perhaps what the Empires value the most in this age.....all can jockey for influence and authority in CONCORD's shadow....I dont think one would dare make a move without knowing of their certain victory. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3200	Posted - 2014.01.10 03:41:00 - [34] - Quote One thing I never understood was the lack of subtlety among the Empires, especially in War. Old tales tell of squadrons killing whole assemblies of politicians and Generals, thereafter proceeding to kill any remnants of their rival. I suppose that the SDII will more accurately be able to pull an ambitious plan like that off. No other intelligence agency has as many expendable personnel, nor black funds. You wanna battle / Aztec's not afraid of you / I could care less about your reputation / Even though it maybe true.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5505	Posted - 2014.01.10 03:47:00 - [35] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: One thing I never understood was the lack of subtlety among the Empires, especially in War. Old tales tell of squadrons killing whole assemblies of politicians and Generals, thereafter proceeding to kill any remnants of their rival. I suppose that the SDII will more accurately be able to pull an ambitious plan like that off. No other intelligence agency has as many expendable personnel, nor black funds. I wouldn't underestimate an Caldari megacorporation's ability to put together massive funds out of the grey market.....nor the coffers of Imperial treasuries or the will of Amarrian martyrs for their own personal operations. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3202	Posted - 2014.01.10 04:06:00 - [36] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: One thing I never understood was the lack of subtlety among the Empires, especially in War. Old tales tell of squadrons killing whole assemblies of politicians and Generals, thereafter proceeding to kill any remnants of their rival. I suppose that the SDII will more accurately be able to pull an ambitious plan like that off. No other intelligence agency has as many expendable personnel, nor black funds. I wouldn't underestimate an Caldari megacorporation's ability to put together massive funds out of the grey market.....nor the coffers of Imperial treasuries or the will of Amarrian martyrs for their own personal operations. Well any new players to the game of chess will definitely have a tough time competing with SDII, CONCORD, Pirates, Sansha's Nation- a word on the Nation; they are merciless intelligence wise. They breed people to be living microphones and cameras; they send them to find things out and then destroy them when they have reported their findings through their implants, just disturbing to face in low-key warfare. I digress. SDII came about when the biggest issue was pirate groups, proxies of the Caldari (suspected). Though everybody has gotten intensely more secretive and... Violent. Rightfully so, but true nonetheless. Yes, the Amarr and Caldari are very much active in the game but it is child's play compared to everyone else. Corporate spying, trying to steal military secrets. They have yet to be involved in high scale sabotage and asymmetric warfare. You wanna battle / Aztec's not afraid of you / I could care less about your reputation / Even though it maybe true.
steadyhand amarr Bragian Order Amarr Empire 2128	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:25:00 - [37] - Quote The amarr have a scary good spy program. Its only the matri that dont seem to have anything. My point about concord was showing unified leadership and goals which a democ cant produce by its nature ate far stronger systems we all know the empires fear concord these days any attack on them is normally greated with shock. Which is a whole nother point i fear concord is growing outside its mandate, i hear they been threats to caps over these "ghost sites" "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3205	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:43:00 - [38] - Quote I don't have a problem getting stronger, at least not as long as it maintains a righteous rule. My biggest concern is that they are getting involved in wet works, they should really stop impeding us in the covert sector. You wanna battle / Aztec's not afraid of you / I could care less about your reputation / Even though it maybe true.
steadyhand amarr Bragian Order Amarr Empire 2132	Posted - 2014.01.10 16:57:00 - [39] - Quote To be honest concords getting involved everywhere they are ment to police us not the empires if the empires want to kick each other in its not concords place to get in the way. "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 172	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:06:00 - [40] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: They're lucky that the Jove had better things to do 23216 That the Caldari are keeping the Gallante busy That the Anmatar separate them from the Republic That the Khanid didn't smoke them back during the Minmatar Rebellion One day their luck will run dry Well first off The Jove honestly doesn't care about the empires the only time they cared really was with The Nation. The Caldari & Gallente when they first started fighting & first met The Amarr, The Caldari & Gallente stopped fighting immediately & united temporaily because they both saw The Amarr as a more powerful threat. Lucky for them The Amarr were friendly. The Anmatar stayed with The Amarr during The Rebellion because The Amarr wasn't treating them bad like everyone tries to say & The Amarr aren't so bad. As I said The like 7 other conquored races adepted just fine, became great individuals in The Amarr society & The Amarr acknowledge they wouldn't be where they are with-out the servants. You don't see The Amarr being forced to come up with.... "be nice" methods like the hounds till The Minmitar. Why? Because The Minmitar never adapted & were more hostile not ALL Minmitar but some. The Khanid knew The Amarr & they knew they weren't bad & as you can see they are well assimalated in amarr culture. Plus they were loyal. They had no real reason to. PS - Don't ingore all the good The Amarr have done for the other 3 Empires (Yes the Amarr has helped The Minmitar in some areas). Which I can easily link if asked to.

XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 540	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:41:00 - [41] - Quote Vinsarrow wrote: PS - Don't ingore all the good The Amarr have done for the other 3 Empires (Yes the Amarr has helped The Minmitar in some areas). Which I can easily link if asked to. Can you actually link those? I know about the Empress freeing 9th gen and above slaves as well as the aid package to the Caldari, some of which goes to help Minmatar that migrated to Caldari territory. What else? Who says you can't kill in style? When CCP plays Dust514
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3208	Posted - 2014.01.11 00:29:00 - [42] - Quote Vinsarow, I'll agree with most of that. The Jove do care, or cared, whatever the case is now. You wanna battle / Aztec's not afraid of you / I could care less about your reputation / Even though it maybe true.
P1nK13 P13 Apothic Void 10	Posted - 2014.01.11 09:53:00 - [43] - Quote Quote: Sounds like the perfect democracy. Caldari State. An empire who let Tibus Heth, a psychotic with Derj's disease, rule for several years doing whatever crimes he did against the state. An empire who have Federation spies high up in many of its corporations. An empire who let a Gallentean corporation be part of it. Also Templis Dragonaurs. Sounds like the perfect corporate dictatorship steadyhand amarr wrote: Democracy is desgined to split people into camps and cause divisions among people who end up being mislead or ignored Our system unites everyone and gives everyone a purpose and a place i know which one i prefer. Unity brings strength and brotherhood and peace. Let us not forget the amarr spearheaded the formation of concord True, but CONCORD was the brainchild of the Jove and Aidonis Elabon, the best Gallentean president, catalyzed CONCORD formation. Also CONCORD is democratic which kinda goes against your point on Democracy
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 174	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:19:00 - [44] - Quote XANDER KAG wrote: Vinsarrow wrote: PS - Don't ingore all the good The Amarr have done for the other 3 Empires (Yes the Amarr has helped The Minmitar in some areas). Which I can easily link if asked to. Can you actually link those? I know about the Empress freeing 9th gen and above slaves as well as the aid package to the Caldari, some of which goes to help Minmatar that migrated to Caldari territory. What else? Ah, excellent so people have heard of my arguements that saved me ALOT of time.... & yes i've already linked them in my previous posts, I believe. Sadly due to Minmitar hostilities their are not alot of examples of political helpfulness going between Amarr & Minmitar. The other 2 off the top of my mind, be CONCORD & The Nation The Amarr helped Minmitar with. Also I think sometime scholarly trainning or advising. The Amarr pulled everyone out of the Dark Times I'm sure also theirs a market somewhere with Minmitar & Amarr exchanging goods to a certain degree. The Amarr has provided technology & other advancements across New Eden which includes The Minmitar I would assume. If your a Minmitar Merc using Amarr stuff that kinda counts?
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 174	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:32:00 - [45] - Quote sir ravenwing wrote: It is useless to try and make amarr mercs think logically they think amarr is undefeatable and has more power than anyone Well I don't blame them the amarr minipulate minds to think what the amarr wants them to think Sometimes they can break this tho by seeing how much of their past makes sense I'm a open minded Amarr & a Amarr religious reformist. Though I agree with pretty much everything The Amarr is doing currently. Also according to the race desrciption "The Amarr have argueably the most stable & most powerful military power in all New Eden" we don't minipulate people obviously, (take a look at Sansha's Nation then get back to me on that). Also I have yet to see the other 3 Empires have Merc's that are this loyal, The Amarr Empire has the best loyalst/patriots in all New Eden. As for Amarr past, well The Amarr are humans. Currently the present & future of The Amarr is beyond great. As for Minmitar future/present.... not looking well - http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/minmatar-tribal-assembly-closes-after-ratifying-new-political-order/
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 174	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:36:00 - [46] - Quote Regarding democracy hate to bring RL examples in a world it doesn't much apply but if you look at the USA the people vote, & then the top people of each state vote, then The Senate/Congress vote's. If you look their has been times when a President would loose the people's vote but win The Senate's & the officials of each state thus winning the election.
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 843	Posted - 2014.01.13 20:53:00 - [47] - Quote Vinsarrow wrote: Regarding democracy hate to bring RL examples in a world it doesn't much apply but if you look at the USA the people vote, & then the top people of each state vote, then The Senate/Congress vote's. If you look their has been times when a President would loose the people's vote but win The Senate's & the officials of each state thus winning the election. ((Don't bring real life examples into an RP forum, no matter what. If you can't "win" an argument without using real life examples, then don't argue at all)) Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 31st
Matobar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 218	Posted - 2014.01.14 16:22:00 - [48] - Quote I like how the Amarr talk about their "apocalyptic weapon" as though they still possessed it
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5665	Posted - 2014.01.14 17:59:00 - [49] - Quote Matobar wrote: I like how the Amarr talk about their "apocalyptic weapon" as though they still possessed it (( not sure if that's common knowledge though so I can't claim to know that in character, nor can you.)) "Face the enemy as a solid wall. For faith is your armour and through it, the enemy will find no breach" -Askura 10:3
Matobar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 218	Posted - 2014.01.14 18:32:00 - [50] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Matobar wrote: I like how the Amarr talk about their "apocalyptic weapon" as though they still possessed it (( not sure if that's common knowledge though so I can't claim to know that in character, nor can you.)) ((Oh ****, sorry. My bad.))

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3260	Posted - 2014.01.14 19:50:00 - [51] - Quote Matobar wrote: True Adamance wrote: Matobar wrote: I like how the Amarr talk about their "apocalyptic weapon" as though they still possessed it (( not sure if that's common knowledge though so I can't claim to know that in character, nor can you.)) ((Oh ****, sorry. My bad.)) ((Made the same mistake, don't worry about it. It is really hard to tell what people in EVE know versus what they don't know. You wanna battle / Aztec's not afraid of you / I could care less about your reputation / Even though it maybe true.
Matobar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 219	Posted - 2014.01.14 20:11:00 - [52] - Quote I think the issue here is that the Amarr believe their luck isn't luck at all, simply divine providence. I for one believe everyone in New Eden is lucky that the Gallente and Amarr have not gone to war with one another yet.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5669	Posted - 2014.01.14 20:19:00 - [53] - Quote Matobar wrote: I think the issue here is that the Amarr believe their luck isn't luck at all, simply divine providence. I for one believe everyone in New Eden is lucky that the Gallente and Amarr have not gone to war with one another yet. More that both sides could batter themselves bloody in the process. There is no sense breaking the relative galactic stability the four empires have attained. "Face the enemy as a solid wall. For faith is your armour and through it, the enemy will find no breach" -Askura 10:3
Skilfer Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 55	Posted - 2014.01.23 05:11:00 - [54] - Quote Matobar wrote: I think the issue here is that the Amarr believe their luck isn't luck at all, simply divine providence. I for one believe everyone in New Eden is lucky that the Gallente and Amarr have not gone to war with one another yet. Their confidence is as much rooted in fact as well as scripture. The Imperial Navy has never deployed anywhere near its full capacity (not even 25%) to deal with anything, including the Jove, Minmatar Rebellion, the Elder Fleet, etc. If even a quarter of its true potential was directed at an entity, the results would be unfathomable. The Empire has the largest population of all of the four empires with the largest standing army, which like the navy has never been even remotely dedicated towards a specific target. While historically viewed as "behind the curve" in terms of technology, the Amarr have consistently been the ones who set the bar in terms of military technology, from constructing the first Proto Titan to creating our own predecessors, the original Templars. Since Empress Jamyl ascended to the throne, the Empire has seen a monumental increase in technological advances and education. While the other empires were dealing with much internal strife over the past couple years (i.e. Heth vs. Megacorps, Minmatar/Federation tensions, etc.) the Amarr were prospering. The Empire did not get as large as it is today by being weak and primitive. Behind the scriptures lies a culture whose innovation could only be rivaled by the Caldari, and whose strategic and intellectual prowess has stood through the test of time. They are strong and united probably more than any other empire, and therefore should, if not feared, be watched a respected for the unprecedented strength they wield.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6089	Posted - 2014.01.23 05:16:00 - [55] - Quote Skilfer wrote: Matobar wrote: I think the issue here is that the Amarr believe their luck isn't luck at all, simply divine providence. I for one believe everyone in New Eden is lucky that the Gallente and Amarr have not gone to war with one another yet. Their confidence is as much rooted in fact as well as scripture. The Imperial Navy has never deployed anywhere near its full capacity (not even 25%) to deal with anything, including the Jove, Minmatar Rebellion, the Elder Fleet, etc. If even a quarter of its true potential was directed at an entity, the results would be unfathomable. The Empire has the largest population of all of the four empires with the largest standing army, which like the navy has never been even remotely dedicated towards a specific target. While historically viewed as "behind the curve" in terms of technology, the Amarr have consistently been the ones who set the bar in terms of military technology, from constructing the first Proto Titan to creating our own predecessors, the original Templars. Since Empress Jamyl ascended to the throne, the Empire has seen a monumental increase in technological advances and education. While the other empires were dealing with much internal strife over the past couple years (i.e. Heth vs. Megacorps, Minmatar/Federation tensions, etc.) the Amarr were prospering. The Empire did not get as large as it is today by being weak and primitive. Behind the scriptures lies a culture whose innovation could only be rivaled by the Caldari, and whose strategic and intellectual prowess has stood through the test of time. They are strong and united probably more than any other empire, and therefore should, if not feared, be watched a respected for the unprecedented strength they wield. (( #1 where in the hell did you find that stat, Its beautiful)) "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Skilfer Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 55	Posted - 2014.01.23 05:26:00 - [56] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Skilfer wrote: Matobar wrote: I think the issue here is that the Amarr believe their luck isn't luck at all, simply divine providence. I for one believe everyone in New Eden is lucky that the Gallente and Amarr have not gone to war with one another yet. Their confidence is as much rooted in fact as well as scripture. The Imperial Navy has never deployed anywhere near its full capacity (not even 25%) to deal with anything, including the Jove, Minmatar Rebellion, the Elder Fleet, etc. If even a quarter of its true potential was directed at an entity, the results would be unfathomable. The Empire has the largest population of all of the four empires with the largest standing army, which like the navy has never been even remotely dedicated towards a specific target. While historically viewed as "behind the curve" in terms of technology, the Amarr have consistently been the ones who set the bar in terms of military technology, from constructing the first Proto Titan to creating our own predecessors, the original Templars. Since Empress Jamyl ascended to the throne, the Empire has seen a monumental increase in technological advances and education. While the other empires were dealing with much internal strife over the past couple years (i.e. Heth vs. Megacorps, Minmatar/Federation tensions, etc.) the Amarr were prospering. The Empire did not get as large as it is today by being weak and primitive. Behind the scriptures lies a culture whose innovation could only be rivaled by the Caldari, and whose strategic and intellectual prowess has stood through the test of time. They are strong and united probably more than any other empire, and therefore should, if not feared, be watched a respected for the unprecedented strength they wield. (( #1 where in the hell did you find that stat, Its beautiful)) ((It is explicitly stated in the novel, Templar One (which I am too lazy to get up and look up the exact page right now LOL), but the specific citing of this in regards to the Jove conflict can be found here, in the fourth paragraph under "Overview".))
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 560	Posted - 2014.01.23 15:07:00 - [57] - Quote P1nK13 P13 wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: So the Gallente people were cowards who let the war happen? Nobody wanted to be labeled as a Caldari loyalist especially when there's extremely high tension between the two factions. The Unats had control over the military, which means most of them is from the executive arm of the govt. So if the people started to revolt, there's a high chance they'd get killed. Nobody wants to give their lives for a former member of the federation who doesn't even want to have peace talks. The Federation Never wanted a war. The planetary bombardment was a direct response by the Unats from the destruction of Nouvelle Rouvenor. The Caldari extremists who destroyed it was response to the blockade of Caldari Prime, which was a response from the Caldari militarizing the whole secession situation. The Fed wanted a peaceful negotiation, "The Caldari were content to sit by the jump gates, while the Gallenteans were debating how to best negotiate a peace agreement" - The Ealy Days Chronicle. The Caldari assumed that Gallente will go all crazy and shoot 'em wit big plasma gunzz! "Right after the Caldari defected from the Federation they focused on securing the jump gates leading to their (once) hidden bases, as those bases provided the backbone to the Caldari military infrastructure at that time"- The Early Days Chronicle. The Caldari Militarized the whole situation and it collapsed fom there. Who wouldn't protect their colonies if another empire wanted them? We sat at the gates in fear gallente government would try to take it. We never assaulted the gallente lands we guarded ours. The gallente government blockaded our homeworld why would someone who is advocating peace do so? Because they aren't. The Caldari people didn't want war until the bombing of Caldari Prime. Don't act like the Caldari were the cause when all we did was add more protection to our systems. The gallente overreacted and tried to scare us into staying in the Federations and giving them the colonies we made and toiled over. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Skilfer Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 57	Posted - 2014.01.23 16:05:00 - [58] - Quote True Adamance wrote: (( #1 where in the hell did you find that stat, Its beautiful)) ((Another citation from Templar One that reinforces all of this is this direct quote by Mordu's Legion CEO, Muryia Mordu: "[The Ammarians'] faith afforded them an aura of invincibility. If not for the Joves, they might have become the most powerful empire in the history of civilization. As it was, the Amarr were not only fending off three navies right now, but winning."))
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 396	Posted - 2014.01.23 17:28:00 - [59] - Quote Skilfer wrote: The Empire did not get as large as it is today by being weak and primitive. Behind the scriptures lies a culture whose innovation could only be rivaled by the Caldari, and whose strategic and intellectual prowess has stood through the test of time. They are strong and united probably more than any other empire, and therefore should, if not feared, be watched and respected for the unprecedented strength they wield. Indeed. I keep hoping we never have to fight them.
Skilfer Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 58	Posted - 2014.01.23 17:54:00 - [60] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Matobar wrote: I like how the Amarr talk about their "apocalyptic weapon" as though they still possessed it (( not sure if that's common knowledge though so I can't claim to know that in character, nor can you.)) ((Another note: while certainly not common knowledge, the "apocalyptic weapon" definitely still exists.))



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