DUST Search - CPM1 Election is Coming (subject to change)

Soraya Xel wrote:

Free Beers wrote:

Soraya Xel wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

I think it should be postponed until Dust is in a better shape.

The current CPM are doing a great job, can't have new people who have no clue what they're doing ruin it now.

Once Dust can stand on it's feet and not completely collapse from a fall, then the elections should be held.

I have no problem with the current CPM members, I have a problem with how they were selected. The CPM is supposed to represent the players to CCP. A group chosen by CCP, by definition, cannot fill that role. I'd be happy to see plenty of CPM0 members in CPM1, but from the sounds of it, they don't actually want the job anymore.

Disagree. There was no other option at the time. I was not a fan of many of them but they were the right group to be selected and did the best they could.

CCP still has no idea how to do the voting and I would fully expect people to try and cheat the system no matter what

I understood why they were chosen at the time, but they were chosen to determine how to make the CPM work, not to be the CPM. Voter fraud is going to happen no matter what, you just have to minimize it best you can. They might do a war point minimum in order to vote, or maybe a tie to AUR purchases. Either way, it'd make it cost prohibitive to cheat in a manner significant enough to win. (In EVE, every account has a vote, so multiboxers have many votes. This is fair because they give CCP more money too, technically. So an AUR tie wouldn't be shocking in the least.)

And they simply haven't announced how they are going to do the voting, they may already know.

[CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm [CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit [CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me

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Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2029	Posted - 2014.01.03 22:37:00 - [61] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: What makes a person a good fit for the position? Someone who sees it as a responsibility, not a position of prestige. Someone with enough time to fulfill the obligations of the position. Someone with a broad understanding of DUST game mechanics. Someone with an ability to see both sides of a debate in order to find balance. Someone with good communication skills. Someone with a thick skin who can deal with Trolls and Haters without flipping out. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 2129	Posted - 2014.01.03 22:47:00 - [62] - Quote I'm running I have too, this game needs it
Zion Shad Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2065	Posted - 2014.01.03 22:51:00 - [63] - Quote Free Beers wrote: So let me clear up the joke/sarcasim since you seem to have missed it I post a thread to bash ccp because ccp gave you credit for what kane was doing it with OB events. It's had nothing to do with you until you scrubby minions came in and defended you (which caused the thread to be about you). Turned into a threadnaught, then you posted your intentions to run for csm. Which made you look bad blah blah blah you pulled out of race. So the joke, incase you missed is was I actually did nothing. I hate when i have to explain stuff like this is ruins the joke. I did miss the joke here because the situation you're talking about isn't the reason for my drop of a EVE CSM run, so I didn't even think of it. Part of the reason was for what I stated and the other was that I was invited to partake in CPM0 in which I didn't bother with the interview. Also make's no since to continue to run for the one if asked to run for the other. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding and don't think I have anything like that to worry about. Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE on iTunes
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 850	Posted - 2014.01.03 22:51:00 - [64] - Quote I am running. My thread is over in The Council Chamber board. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133490&find=unread I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Zion Shad Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2068	Posted - 2014.01.03 23:27:00 - [65] - Quote I-Shayz-I please post up when you have your forum post to run outside of here and Ill place you on the list Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE on iTunes
The Furtive Pygmy Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 201	Posted - 2014.01.03 23:38:00 - [66] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: Zion Shad, I intend to run. As I am wont to do be in leadership position, and I see this as one. lol reasons why: I'm a no-lifer. From July til December I was posting under "Cass Caul" but as my brother scouts suggested that I need to post on my main account to be a candidate Good to know you were cass. Watch your back in FW kiddo.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6238	Posted - 2014.01.03 23:41:00 - [67] - Quote Bad Furry Lol, just kidding. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
dogmanpig black market bank 112	Posted - 2014.01.03 23:41:00 - [68] - Quote up and running, i promise the most crack https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133513&find=unread You hate me, I hate you. Lets keep it that way. Level 11 2/10 Forum alt. "Its worth half a penny and a reach around"
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1422	Posted - 2014.01.03 23:43:00 - [69] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I think it should be postponed until Dust is in a better shape. The current CPM are doing a great job, can't have new people who have no clue what they're doing ruin it now. Once Dust can stand on it's feet and not completely collapse from a fall, then the elections should be held. I agree. My order of priorities would be: Get the game out of alpha. Get the game out of Beta. Ensure that the NPE is solid and enjoyable and that our numbers are growing. Then we can do the CPM 1 thing. I support SP rollover.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1370	Posted - 2014.01.03 23:44:00 - [70] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: There are going to be so many people with no idea what they're doing. ... Handing that decision over to this community...is....unsettling... [/quote] DUST man, how is that any different from any other representative democracy? ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûôGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 300/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 855	Posted - 2014.01.03 23:45:00 - [71] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I think it should be postponed until Dust is in a better shape. The current CPM are doing a great job, can't have new people who have no clue what they're doing ruin it now. Once Dust can stand on it's feet and not completely collapse from a fall, then the elections should be held. I have no problem with the current CPM members, I have a problem with how they were selected. The CPM is supposed to represent the players to CCP. A group chosen by CCP, by definition, cannot fill that role. I'd be happy to see plenty of CPM0 members in CPM1, but from the sounds of it, they don't actually want the job anymore. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1696	Posted - 2014.01.03 23:52:00 - [72] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I think it should be postponed until Dust is in a better shape. The current CPM are doing a great job, can't have new people who have no clue what they're doing ruin it now. Once Dust can stand on it's feet and not completely collapse from a fall, then the elections should be held. I have no problem with the current CPM members, I have a problem with how they were selected. The CPM is supposed to represent the players to CCP. A group chosen by CCP, by definition, cannot fill that role. I'd be happy to see plenty of CPM0 members in CPM1, but from the sounds of it, they don't actually want the job anymore. Disagree. There was no other option at the time. I was not a fan of many of them but they were the right group to be selected and did the best they could. CCP still has no idea how to do the voting and I would fully expect people to try and cheat the system no matter what [CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm [CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit [CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 855	Posted - 2014.01.03 23:57:00 - [73] - Quote Free Beers wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I think it should be postponed until Dust is in a better shape. The current CPM are doing a great job, can't have new people who have no clue what they're doing ruin it now. Once Dust can stand on it's feet and not completely collapse from a fall, then the elections should be held. I have no problem with the current CPM members, I have a problem with how they were selected. The CPM is supposed to represent the players to CCP. A group chosen by CCP, by definition, cannot fill that role. I'd be happy to see plenty of CPM0 members in CPM1, but from the sounds of it, they don't actually want the job anymore. Disagree. There was no other option at the time. I was not a fan of many of them but they were the right group to be selected and did the best they could. CCP still has no idea how to do the voting and I would fully expect people to try and cheat the system no matter what I understood why they were chosen at the time, but they were chosen to determine how to make the CPM work, not to be the CPM. Voter fraud is going to happen no matter what, you just have to minimize it best you can. They might do a war point minimum in order to vote, or maybe a tie to AUR purchases. Either way, it'd make it cost prohibitive to cheat in a manner significant enough to win. (In EVE, every account has a vote, so multiboxers have many votes. This is fair because they give CCP more money too, technically. So an AUR tie wouldn't be shocking in the least.) And they simply haven't announced how they are going to do the voting, they may already know. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1309	Posted - 2014.01.03 23:59:00 - [74] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I am very, very afraid You trust me right buddy? Also we need to get together and talk training videos soon. ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2580	Posted - 2014.01.04 00:00:00 - [75] - Quote Can I nominate Arkena Wyrnspire? Proud member of the Commndo 6 <3 Commando AK.0
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1696	Posted - 2014.01.04 00:11:00 - [76] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Free Beers wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I think it should be postponed until Dust is in a better shape. The current CPM are doing a great job, can't have new people who have no clue what they're doing ruin it now. Once Dust can stand on it's feet and not completely collapse from a fall, then the elections should be held. I have no problem with the current CPM members, I have a problem with how they were selected. The CPM is supposed to represent the players to CCP. A group chosen by CCP, by definition, cannot fill that role. I'd be happy to see plenty of CPM0 members in CPM1, but from the sounds of it, they don't actually want the job anymore. Disagree. There was no other option at the time. I was not a fan of many of them but they were the right group to be selected and did the best they could. CCP still has no idea how to do the voting and I would fully expect people to try and cheat the system no matter what I understood why they were chosen at the time, but they were chosen to determine how to make the CPM work, not to be the CPM. Voter fraud is going to happen no matter what, you just have to minimize it best you can. They might do a war point minimum in order to vote, or maybe a tie to AUR purchases. Either way, it'd make it cost prohibitive to cheat in a manner significant enough to win. (In EVE, every account has a vote, so multiboxers have many votes. This is fair because they give CCP more money too, technically. So an AUR tie wouldn't be shocking in the least.) And they simply haven't announced how they are going to do the voting, they may already know. You are presenting your opinion as fact, which is incorrect as fact. I dont get why you are trying to discredit cpm0 here. They were selected to do the job of the cpm and that was there main priority. The election of cpm1 was just an additional task they were to solve along with ccp. The only reason the election discussion was front and center was to let the public know the selection of players were the exception to the rule going forward. [CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm [CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit [CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 250	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:11:00 - [77] - Quote I r running Tech De Ra for CPM1
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1070	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:46:00 - [78] - Quote i'm running. I played eve for two years to get ready for dust, and I spend most of my time teaching dust players how to fly fast frigs in eve. this is my killboard: http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_ext_id=90872475 I believe that pve should only be introduced if there is a non-consensual pvp aspect of it as that would keep it in line with eve. I believe the current cpm is full of carebears who have never shown up in molden heath to fight me. if we want dust514 to be a hardcore game, we need to make it fun for hardcore gamers.
darkiller240 K-A-O-S theory 235	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:51:00 - [79] - Quote i nominate judgerhamanthus "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Zion Shad Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2072	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:03:00 - [80] - Quote low genius wrote: i'm running. I played eve for two years to get ready for dust, and I spend most of my time teaching dust players how to fly fast frigs in eve. this is my killboard: http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_ext_id=90872475 I believe that pve should only be introduced if there is a non-consensual pvp aspect of it as that would keep it in line with eve. I believe the current cpm is full of carebears who have never shown up in molden heath to fight me. if we want dust514 to be a hardcore game, we need to make it fun for hardcore gamers. Let me know if you make an official post in The CouncilGÇÖs Chamber Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE on iTunes
Dalmont Legrand RUST415 205	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:57:00 - [81] - Quote I will try on that. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1682808#post1682808 Of something nothing is everything. Track of the week for Dust: The Way by Zack Hemsey(Instrumental)
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 437	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:31:00 - [82] - Quote Don't care com don't help the community anymore they hardly play excOhept like 1 of them. What was his name again? We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Zion Shad Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2073	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:32:00 - [83] - Quote Dalmont Legrand wrote: I will try on that. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1682808#post1682808 Dalmont you're invited to join us on the Podside podcast (on iTunes)any Tues or Sat evening you wish to talk about your CPM run. You'll also be asked for a interview further down the road and closer to election as well. Please let me know Skype: ZionShad Twitter @ZionShad Thanks Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE on iTunes
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9620	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:36:00 - [84] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Don't care com don't help the community anymore they hardly play excOhept like 1 of them. What was his name again? It's tough to commit the time, energy, and care for the "community" while maintaining a life, playing DUST, and not being paid for your efforts; all while having to deal with well thought out posts like the above quote. Nevermind the senseless hate you automatically attract because people feel the need to force their opinions on others, and automatically assume their opinion is fact. Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
Zion Shad Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2075	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:52:00 - [85] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Don't care com don't help the community anymore they hardly play excOhept like 1 of them. What was his name again? It's tough to commit the time, energy, and care for the "community" while maintaining a life, playing DUST, and not being paid for your efforts; all while having to deal with well thought out posts like the above quote. Nevermind the senseless hate you automatically attract because people feel the need to force their opinions on others, and automatically assume their opinion is fact. It's reasons like this to why I opened a Gaming Community Company. I wanted to help all those who put their personal time and effort in running things like corps for other players or participating in programs like the CPM to gain something in return. I always believed that even though some players may not travel to tourneys, have the ability to stream or go "PRO" shouldn't mean they couldn't gain a sponsor for there work Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE on iTunes
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9622	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:58:00 - [86] - Quote Zion Shad wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Don't care com don't help the community anymore they hardly play excOhept like 1 of them. What was his name again? It's tough to commit the time, energy, and care for the "community" while maintaining a life, playing DUST, and not being paid for your efforts; all while having to deal with well thought out posts like the above quote. Nevermind the senseless hate you automatically attract because people feel the need to force their opinions on others, and automatically assume their opinion is fact. It's reasons like this to why I opened a Gaming Community Company. I wanted to help all those who put their personal time and effort in running things like corps for other players or participating in programs like the CPM to gain something in return. I always believed that even though some players may not travel to tourneys, have the ability to stream or go "PRO" shouldn't mean they couldn't gain a sponsor for there work Not technically on topic, but it's basically that exact same reason that I love the direction that some games have been going, that allow you to record and replay, even share your own matches. Stuff like that is amazing, because you're right, not everyone can stream, and even the worst of noobs has likely seen his fair share of crazy stuff. I don't understand technology enough to really envision what DUST can actually accomplish on the PS3, but if it ever migrates to the next gen consoles, I can see it becoming obnoxiously intense. Features like that promote creativity and just socializing are really good for building actual cohesive communities. Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 3985	Posted - 2014.01.04 20:00:00 - [87] - Quote I'd like to run but I'm waiting until much later to set anything out right now. It seems a little premature to do so this early. Then again it's me here, I literally refused to get out of my mothers womb. Baby Kirk knew that life was a farcical pile of bullshit and refused to participate.
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 463	Posted - 2014.01.04 20:10:00 - [88] - Quote Cat merc ftw You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Dalmont Legrand RUST415 205	Posted - 2014.01.04 20:12:00 - [89] - Quote Zion Shad wrote: Dalmont Legrand wrote: I will try on that. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1682808#post1682808 Dalmont you're invited to join us on the Podside podcast (on iTunes)any Tues or Sat evening you wish to talk about your CPM run. You'll also be asked for a interview further down the road and closer to election as well. Please let me know Skype: ZionShad Twitter @ZionShad Thanks I will consider this offer, though I hope time won't restrain me. Of something nothing is everything. Track of the week for Dust: The Way by Zack Hemsey(Instrumental)
Zion Shad Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2075	Posted - 2014.01.04 20:12:00 - [90] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I'd like to run but I'm waiting until much later to set anything out right now. It seems a little premature to do so this early. Then again it's me here, I literally refused to get out of my mothers womb. Baby Kirk knew that life was a farcical pile of bullshit and refused to participate. I understand those jumping in with out much of a community name doing so. My advise to those is do more then just post I'm running and contribute to the community in someway outside of just stating what you'll do later on if picked. If any of you need help in that, I always have work for you to do Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE on iTunes

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