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Posted - 2014.01.03 15:24:00 -
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This is a simple pool for the community to give CCP a general idea of what you thought of the event through a poll. http://strawpoll.me/960929
click link, check all that apply and vote.
Which did you vote for and why?
12 Days of Dust Event (December 25th GÇô January 5th) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=127895
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Posted - 2014.01.03 15:38:00 -
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It might be interesting to know how much SP/how long you been playing. Maybe it was good for newer players but for vets it might have been more a bitter vet syndrome?
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Posted - 2014.01.03 15:43:00 -
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Mogar Bobac wrote:Althought I enjoyed it I would have rather just had a permenant santa hat or some decorations in my quarters
I think they would like this too but they just don't have a system in place to skin things or only allow certain items during certain periods of times. Hopefully 2014 is the year they make some major upgrades to the system.
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Posted - 2014.01.03 17:07:00 -
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Saxbrin Shain wrote:It's an interesting event, but I was expecting something hilariously impractical but appropriate to the season GÇö like the Snowball Launchers in EVE GÇö instead of a barely-useful number of existing items. 12 of something doesn't last very long, Could have been a bit more interesting but they have the concept down. 12 even if a play on words only last good plays 2-4 match and new players maybe 1-2.
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Posted - 2014.01.03 18:47:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Event: A significant (important, notable, or momentous) occurrence or happening.
Where was the significant occurrence?
Hell, when one those special contracts show up that placed you in a game where everyone deploys with dumbfiring swarmlaunchers that actually shoot snowballs and santa/snowmen/(squadleaders as Rudolph) dropsuits and you get a goodie for every kill you make? That's what I call an event, but yeah it's too much work so they don't do that. This was not even worth the name 'event'.
Well it could have at least been a bit better had it been rewards of like 50+ of an item or something like that. We all know they have better stuff to fix then create Christmas themed things.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:28:00 -
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Veka Kari wrote:I didnt even notice it was going on.
didn't you read the news when you log in?
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Posted - 2014.01.04 06:31:00 -
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We are 138 wrote:It was not good enough to get me go log on. I'm so burned out that I can't play any more. Waiting for new content..... Like real new content not just a few guns, more like different game modes or god f u cking forbid pve. Eleven months is long enough for me to be bashing my head against the wall.
definitely understand this. Every time I have to login, I have the mic glitch which many do right now where you have to login, activate a channel voice coms, logout, then back in again. Am reminded this entire holiday season that a year later and large bugs still exist. I'm a vet and if not for the fact, I don't see how anyone just trying the game would accept the bugs but CCP knows this and I'm just waiting to hear what their plans will be in 2014.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 06:34:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:This was my thoughts on the subject. A handful of low-level gear or a gob of suits I have a bunch of already isn't all that cool. tl;dr for the link: A reward that'd inspire me to log on would be a couple of militia suits that have different colors than normal. Not even intricate color changes. A palette swap would suffice. No fancy balance breaking gear. Just some warbarge bling would be enough.
Agreed, it was better than nothing but I think the point of most of it all is, if it not unique or valuable then small quantities will be viewed as an underwhelming reward.
You should take a second and do the poll, not much to read, 6 options to choose from, basically 3 questions within the poll.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 06:53:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:This is an awesome idea. I'd love to see more of these kinds of constructive initiatives - I'll take the results of this feedback and present it to the relevant teams for you guys. :)
Thanks for stopping by Ya me too, I would like to see the initiative come from the team(s) that actually does the rewards and marketing.
Actually that might be a good dev blog on how those teams take the data from an event and analyze it. Was it an effective event? how do you determine what players might like? the process of creating the event, the challenges, what you can and can not do? etc.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 09:42:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:How do those percentages work if u can choose multiple options?
The percentage is overall poll. When I'm done polling maybe a few days afterwards I will post results here since there are basically 3 key areas that people can give their opinion on and will compares those 3 keys questions.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:46:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:Brush Master wrote:jordy mack wrote:How do those percentages work if u can choose multiple options? The percentage is overall poll. When I'm done polling maybe a few days afterwards I will post results here since there are basically 3 key areas that people can give their opinion on and will compares those 3 keys questions. So if everyone checks every box will it be like 20% in each column? I don't know what u mean.
the percentage on the polls doesn't really matter, the top three answers are basically what we will be looking at. you have
The rewards were underwhelming vs The rewards were decent Encouraged me to login vs Did not encourage me to login Liked the Event vs Did not even notice/care that it was going on
We can see overall which was the top opinion and we will also look at each question individually a couple day after the event ends.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 17:26:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:For something that ran at a time when few staff were available and which was holiday themed this event seemed reasonable. Not exciting or really ground breaking in any way but I don't think it was supposed to be a highpoint for events anyway.
I'm not sure the win requirement made a lot of sense here, given the meta level and amount of gear handed out. Requiring a win can be a good mechanic for the right event but here it was disproportionate to the reward.
It also suffered due to the usual issue where one in every ten modules CCP gives away is useful to any given player. Extra SP or ISK should be part of every event where we're getting a shotgun blast of random crap. Don't like giving out SP and ISK? Then design more elegant events than "today you get a few of a randomly selected module".
I agree, for what was given, simply logging in should have been enough. Maybe login gets you xx item, plus win xx matches and you will get a surprise item for that day. Larger quantity or rare official weapons would have made this event really nice but like you said it feels like a last ditch effort to through something together for the sake of having something.
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Posted - 2014.01.05 16:11:00 -
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lee corwood wrote:As far as getting isk as a reward, I think once we get the player market (whenever that is) we'll feel less underwhelmed because we'll have the ability to convert what we cannot use into isk or if we have a corp where we know dedicated players will use a piece of equipment more than me, tradesies. I get specialist weapons in types that I know I'll never use, but wish I could give to a corpmate who could use all he could get.
Other than that, I agree with Aqil in that the win requirement made it very hard for some people. On the days my corp was on, this was an easy requirement, but when alone (2 days), I found it difficult and wishing I could hurry up and win one so I could turn the game off. I'm not a new player so I imagine for newer players, this was just frustrating and even more reason to not continue playing, especially during the holidays. Next time, a 'minimum number of games' might be a better option.
I think winning is fine if the rewards match the time needed to do it. If you squad up with a 6 man group, your chances are much higher of winning so it is encouragement to work together. We know player market is in the works so that will help somewhat but does not change the fact that the rewards are no where near what players would like them to be.
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Posted - 2014.01.05 16:18:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:A majority of people saying the rewards are **** are sorely mistaken. I don't think people understand that not everything can be prototype rewards and just for them.
These rewards are genuinely good and people asking for new items in this event don't have a good grasp on reality.
I think its a point for some that 0% of items have matched their role. CCP has a thing for scouts? and small amounts of std or adv gear. This round we saw AUR gear, players are not dumb, it seems to be a marketing idea that maybe someone will build a suit for 12 uses with xx item and maybe they will buy AUR to restock the suit; however, they failed to account for that high death counts of most players. Who is going to buy tons of std or adv AUR gear when you die 5-10 times a match on average.
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Posted - 2014.01.05 19:40:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Rozencrutz89 wrote:Event was a good idea but all the items in it were kinda underwhelming overall. This. But, well, free stuff. Some of the stuff was great tbqh - the black eagles and quafe suits were very nice. But things like enhanced shield extenders, which aren't used much by anyone, aren't of much use. Perhaps it's simply an issue with how useful some of the items are in game. Few people use fused locus grenades and enhanced shield extenders.
Just part of the problem. One is same items being given and other is almost useless items. Free is free but why bother if players view the event rewards as nothing special. Events are suppose to increase player activity and make players want to engage the game, this event did somewhat but could have been done much better.
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Posted - 2014.01.06 06:16:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:A majority of people saying the rewards are **** are sorely mistaken. I don't think people understand that not everything can be prototype rewards and just for them.
These rewards are genuinely good and people asking for new items in this event don't have a good grasp on reality. Although maybe they could have skipped the ADV shield extenders for something else. I remember the Hacked Drop Uplinks I got from the Chromosome Merc Pack (or whatever it was) were incredibly useful, considering that I didn't have any SP to spare on the things.
Ya i think the items could be useful for new players, but they would not last but a match or two for a new player.
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Posted - 2014.01.06 06:18:00 -
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Zunist Tae wrote:Full time college student on Christmas break (read broke with nothing better to do), had me logging all of my tons each day looking for a win. Cool for you I spent more time in Dust. Bad for you... The prizes may come in useful but they all look like AUR items to me. Which means i'll never have more than 12, so meh. I've been over exposed to Proto stomping and am really close to being burn out on Dust. Not one of the items is permanent. Not looking for amazing items, but a bpo of some sort to remember the event would have been awesome. (Maybe a Christmas colored frontline? A "Rudolph" laser rifle... something militia grade and festivish...) Came really close to missing the event, and wouldn't have even noticed or been upset...
new bpo are gone and the way its looking they want to phase them out.
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Posted - 2014.01.06 12:19:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Personally, I'd rather see reward items named iin different ways to make them special, even if they are only ADV items.
Like a heavy suit with something santa implied, or a scout suit in reference to an elf. Maybe even a LAV with references to reindeer.
And then modules could be called different christmas decorations or something. What about santas vs elves where it would be kills in heavy suits vs kills in scout suits? Some creativity would be nice.
Maybe in 2014 when they will have time to fix the bugs and increase content.
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Posted - 2014.01.06 15:09:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:If you're going to make it so that we can have santa hats in the future I want all sorts of other religious gear too: Kwanzaa Candles Dreidels Statue of Kali Incan Sacrificial Altar Flying Spagetti Monster Plushy Cathulu Cult Robe Mobius Brand Cough SyrupGäó (Now in new "not proven to cause blindness" formula)
Really, if this game is going to have items associated with any one religion in it doesn't it seem foolish not to be a little more inclusive. Or how about this, we leave out the whole Christmas themed thing and just make a good game.
Really though my merc wants a Flying Spagetti Monster Plushy for his quarters.
If you want a certain theme then those that want it will have to voice their opinion, but yes on good game, this thread is about the event though and how it could be improved for next year.
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Posted - 2014.01.06 17:18:00 -
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TODDSTER024 wrote:Since I play solo, I don't have a squad. There was one day it was lose after lose after lose after lose after lose.. Not a single win was won.
Did you try Gallente FW?
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:15:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:A majority of people saying the rewards are **** are sorely mistaken. I don't think people understand that not everything can be prototype rewards and just for them.
These rewards are genuinely good and people asking for new items in this event don't have a good grasp on reality. No one's saying that these items are bad, it's just more that they arent all that interesting. If they were looking for rewards that would inspire somebody who's been around for longer than a couple weeks to log on then the sort of items they were giving out didn't do the trick.
right on.
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:17:00 -
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lithkul devant wrote:Well, the 12 days each day having a different item to win was okay, but it also encouraged me to only login and play 1-4 matches each day, why play unneeded matches during the holiday times? Also...I was hoping for a special holiday reward for you know actually sticking with Dust 514 it kind of let down not to get one. Mind you the passive boosters for 50% off was very nice (Finally they did this, about damn time) They also had a package for 75% off which was decent, but then again that isn't a holiday themed gift or truly special. I guess what I'm saying is, I wanted an actual gift like you get on Christmas, the other stuff was just nice fluff, but still just fluff.
yes, kudos for a nice promotion that we all been asking for.
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:20:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:Brush Master wrote:Aqil Aegivan wrote:For something that ran at a time when few staff were available and which was holiday themed this event seemed reasonable. Not exciting or really ground breaking in any way but I don't think it was supposed to be a highpoint for events anyway.
I'm not sure the win requirement made a lot of sense here, given the meta level and amount of gear handed out. Requiring a win can be a good mechanic for the right event but here it was disproportionate to the reward.
It also suffered due to the usual issue where one in every ten modules CCP gives away is useful to any given player. Extra SP or ISK should be part of every event where we're getting a shotgun blast of random crap. Don't like giving out SP and ISK? Then design more elegant events than "today you get a few of a randomly selected module". I agree, for what was given, simply logging in should have been enough. Maybe login gets you xx item, plus win xx matches and you will get a surprise item for that day. Larger quantity or rare official weapons would have made this event really nice but like you said it feels like a last ditch effort to through something together for the sake of having something. It's possible my post ended on a more sour note than I had intended, I just think we should have moved past handing out random gear by now. CCP has gotten the same feedback regarding this style of reward structure for a while now but it keeps happening. I'm relatively certain that "More appropriate rewards" was one of the things the community requested quite loudly when CCP had that thread on what we want to see from events, yet here we are. Brush Master wrote:I agree, for what was given, simply logging in should have been enough. This is tricky. I think that the win requirement can be very handy as it's not just gear you got, it's gear you won. It is possible to add value to low ISK rewards by adding that condition, even where people resent the necessity if it gets them playing it's not a terrible thing. The problem arises when the gear is not just cheap but also useless. Winning it is like winning one of those paper cracker things people pull on at Christmas. You get a joke and a crown but you don't feel like a winner. Just handing things out wouldn't have made this a better event so much as it would have changed people's complaints, stuff I'll never use stays stuff I'll never use no matter the relative ease with which I acquire it. My feedback is basically this: CCP, you were told that better events require more appropriate rewards rather than just randomly selected gear. You were told this repeatedly, some time ago. You failed to incorporate this into your event design philosophy. This event suffered as a result. To do better give us events with either A: Stuff everyone can use (SP, ISK or possibly LP). B: Gear tailored to each player. C: Unique or genuinely rare/desirable items. D: Some partial combination of the above. Don't give us events that are flawed in a way we've already explained and then ask why we don't like them, you know why. Edit: Or events which have a link to EVE lore. They're not for everyone (lets face it, some people don't care) but it wouldn't hurt to have them every once in a while, especially since we had so many during beta where we couldn't choose a side but now we have that ability and it's going to waste.
some really good feedback, thanks.
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Posted - 2014.01.09 04:20:00 -
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Poll results added to first post ( https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1679130 ). Poll is closed but feel free to discuss anything further should you feel the need. Thanks to every that participated.
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