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Ghost Kaisar wrote:

The Furtive Pygmy wrote:

I can get the burst to shoot roughly six times a second. You do the math.

6 times a second?

That's 360 BPM. Or equal to playing the eighth note at 180 BPM.

About this fast. Warning, the video is loud.

Also note, you are firing the gun every time you hear the snare. Tap your finger along with it. It's not hard to do.

Also, at 3 round bursts, dealing 35 damage a bullet at proto, you do 105 a burst. 105 * 6 = 630 DPS.

Not including headshots or damage mods. Headshots are what really make the gun shine.

ScR is much worse. At 705 RPM (it's max apparently), you can fire it 11.75 times a second. With a base damage of 78 a bullet, you can get 916.5 DPS. Without the first shot being charged. And without damage mods or headshots.

This is why modded controllers can break the game. Nothing can beat the ScR with a modded controller. If it weren't for the overheat, this would be gamebreaking.

Still pretty lame even with overheat, as you can instakill any one target you meet, hands down.

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BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1468	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:31:00 - [1] - Quote not 660 . Did some tests with it, and the fastest it can shoot is at 15.43 shots per second, 953 RPM (that's only with controlled bursts not smashing R1). At standard level the DPS is 508.75. If anybody has gotten it to shoot faster (without a modified controller) please share! EDIT: Spamning R1 actually lowers your DPS to 445 at standard level, in comparison a standard Assault rifle has 425 DPS.
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 459	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:33:00 - [2] - Quote Even with that super low DPS(which i think is wrong in a place or 2.) The CR will never be truly OP, as it only has 1700 damage per clip, whereas basic Gar has 2100. Rail rifle has 2300 and scr has (!) 3200. (Yes there's an OH mechanic, but even then it's 2300) Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) I have a God, His name is Dakka.
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance 194	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:35:00 - [3] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: not 660 . Did some tests with it, and the fastest it can shoot is at 15.43 shots per second, 953 RPM (that's only with controlled bursts not smashing R1). At standard level the DPS is 508.75. If anybody has gotten it to shoot faster (without a modified controller) please share! EDIT: Spamning R1 actually lowers your DPS to 445 at standard level, in comparison a standard Assault rifle has 425 DPS. I can pretty consistently get 18 rounds per second out of the gun. also, spamming does not lower it for me.I go through a clip every time in less than 3 seconds.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1468	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:36:00 - [4] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: not 660 . Did some tests with it, and the fastest it can shoot is at 15.43 shots per second, 953 RPM (that's only with controlled bursts not smashing R1). At standard level the DPS is 508.75. If anybody has gotten it to shoot faster (without a modified controller) please share! EDIT: Spamning R1 actually lowers your DPS to 445 at standard level, in comparison a standard Assault rifle has 425 DPS. I can pretty consistently get 18 rounds per second out of the gun. also, spamming does not lower it for me.I go through a clip every time in less than 3 seconds. When I spam I empty my clip in ~4 seconds, when I controlled my bursts its 3.5 seconds. Although lag can severely affect how this weapon works. I have notice when I lag spike my gun takes about 1/2 a second to shoot.
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 358	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:40:00 - [5] - Quote 508.75 DPS for the base rifle with no skills, damage mods or headshots.
Protocake JR Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 1208	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:41:00 - [6] - Quote You need to find the perfect rhythm in order to fire one burst immediately after another. I got accused of using a modded controller this morning. Do modded controllers work for the CR? Can someone confirm? The PC and SL should fit into the Sidearm slot so it's accessible and practical to carry one. AV spam vs V spam
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance 194	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:52:00 - [7] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Even with that super low DPS(which i think is wrong in a place or 2.) The CR will never be truly OP, as it only has 1700 damage per clip, whereas basic Gar has 2100. Rail rifle has 2300 and scr has (!) 3200. (Yes there's an OH mechanic, but even then it's 2300) Damage per clip may be higher on the SCR, but what is the maximum sustainable DPS of either weapon? Proto SCR with 2 dmg mods and max profieciency can do 1300 DPS for 1.6 seconds (2.12 with maxed amarr assault skill). That is between 2340 and 3250 damage. With the 5 second cool-down, you are looking at between 2340 and 3250 damage over a 6.6-7.12 second period. That means you do between 325 and 456 DPS. Over that same 7 second period the CR can empty a magazine (2.7 secs), reload(2.21 w/ skills)., and empty mostl of another (33.8 rounds to 44.2 rounds). SO basically go throough between 87.8 rounds to 98.2 rounds. Thats is between 4407 damage and 4929 damage. That works out to between 667 to 692 DPS. There is pretty much no way you can construe the Combat Rifle to not be the most powerful of the rifles, and it is not even really close. Lowest fitting? check Fastest reload? check No overheat ? check Highest DPS without turbo? check (i.e you need to have turbo to get the max/close to max from a scrambler) Anyway, I only ever see these threads when people know something is overpowered. You never see these threads about plasma cannons, nova knives, flaylocks, snipers, LAVs, non-gal-logi suits. TLDR: If you feel the need to try to convince people of why a weapon isn't overpowered, it is overpowered.
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance 194	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:54:00 - [8] - Quote Protocake JR wrote: You need to find the perfect rhythm in order to fire one burst immediately after another. I got accused of using a modded controller this morning. Do modded controllers work for the CR? Can someone confirm? You just need to not hit the button faster than once every 0.15 seconds. If you can achieve that, you will not be hitting the button to fast.
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance 196	Posted - 2014.01.03 07:19:00 - [9] - Quote Protocake JR wrote: You need to find the perfect rhythm in order to fire one burst immediately after another. I got accused of using a modded controller this morning. Do modded controllers work for the CR? Can someone confirm? Oh I forgot to confirm your part. I guess you can get controllers that can fire exactly as many times as you want per second. Pretty easy to program too.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 826	Posted - 2014.01.03 07:38:00 - [10] - Quote Does no one see a problem with this DPS? I find it funny that my level 5 shield / armour, 3 complx shield extender minmatar scout has less HP then what these rifles can do in a second. (I do not run armour plates, I run biotics) Parody Dust 514 Lyrics Vote for Delt

The Furtive Pygmy Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 188	Posted - 2014.01.03 07:41:00 - [11] - Quote I can get the burst to shoot roughly six times a second. You do the math.
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance 196	Posted - 2014.01.03 07:41:00 - [12] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Does no one see a problem with this DPS? I find it funny that my level 5 shield / armour, 3 complx shield extender minmatar scout has less HP then what these rifles can do in a second. (I do not run armour plates, I run biotics) Oh believe me I do, I tried to make it clear earlier. The CR does WAY too much damage for the drawbacks (none). Actually all of the rifles do way too much damage, the CR is just the biggest offender. Oh and the SCR should have it's ROF capped at like 400 or 450.... 705 is only useful for turbo controllers.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix 1427	Posted - 2014.01.03 08:01:00 - [13] - Quote The Furtive Pygmy wrote: I can get the burst to shoot roughly six times a second. You do the math. 6 times a second? That's 360 BPM. Or equal to playing the eighth note at 180 BPM. About this fast. Warning, the video is loud. Also note, you are firing the gun every time you hear the snare. Tap your finger along with it. It's not hard to do. Also, at 3 round bursts, dealing 35 damage a bullet at proto, you do 105 a burst. 105 * 6 = 630 DPS. Not including headshots or damage mods. Headshots are what really make the gun shine. ScR is much worse. At 705 RPM (it's max apparently), you can fire it 11.75 times a second. With a base damage of 78 a bullet, you can get 916.5 DPS. Without the first shot being charged. And without damage mods or headshots. This is why modded controllers can break the game. Nothing can beat the ScR with a modded controller. If it weren't for the overheat, this would be gamebreaking. Still pretty lame even with overheat, as you can instakill any one target you meet, hands down. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
DeeJay One Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 164	Posted - 2014.01.03 08:06:00 - [14] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: Oh believe me I do, I tried to make it clear earlier. The CR does WAY too much damage for the drawbacks (none). Actually all of the rifles do way too much damage, the CR is just the biggest offender. Oh and the SCR should have it's ROF capped at like 400 or 450.... 705 is only useful for turbo controllers. Nah, it only looks OP because everyone is running armour tanks.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1767	Posted - 2014.01.03 08:08:00 - [15] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Does no one see a problem with this DPS? I find it funny that my level 5 shield / armour, 3 complx shield extender minmatar scout has less HP then what these rifles can do in a second. (I do not run armour plates, I run biotics) Equipment has more HP than Minmatar scouts. "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara Use the Commando A-I suit and show your worth.
The Furtive Pygmy Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 188	Posted - 2014.01.03 08:13:00 - [16] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: The Furtive Pygmy wrote: I can get the burst to shoot roughly six times a second. You do the math. 6 times a second? That's 360 BPM. Or equal to playing the eighth note at 180 BPM. About this fast. Warning, the video is loud. Also note, you are firing the gun every time you hear the snare. Tap your finger along with it. It's not hard to do. Also, at 3 round bursts, dealing 35 damage a bullet at proto, you do 105 a burst. 105 * 6 = 630 DPS. Not including headshots or damage mods. Headshots are what really make the gun shine. ScR is much worse. At 705 RPM (it's max apparently), you can fire it 11.75 times a second. With a base damage of 78 a bullet, you can get 916.5 DPS. Without the first shot being charged. And without damage mods or headshots. This is why modded controllers can break the game. Nothing can beat the ScR with a modded controller. If it weren't for the overheat, this would be gamebreaking. Still pretty lame even with overheat, as you can instakill any one target you meet, hands down. Ill take 630 dps any day, easily beats.any other rifle. Nobody can press a button fast enough while aiming and using a controller to utilize max DPS of a SR. ive gotten around 760 clicks a minute but there's just no way to do that while aiming and not positioning your hand in a manner that allows you to click that fast.
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 2020	Posted - 2014.01.03 08:29:00 - [17] - Quote All I know is, I lay people down with 0 proficiency, 0 damage modifiers, 0 headshots in my pilot fit. I get consistently much higher DPS than an AR with higher range and a scope. I don't use anything else on my pilot suits, now. Great for assassinating the one guy guarding a point before hacking it. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
daishi mk03 BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 532	Posted - 2014.01.03 08:32:00 - [18] - Quote ScR has the highest DPS during the relevant time frame. To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin. The Scriptures,Book of Missions
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 360	Posted - 2014.01.03 16:50:00 - [19] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: 508.75 DPS for the base rifle with no skills, damage mods or headshots. To be clear, this is a bad thing. Every rifle in the game can pop someone in a split second with the right fit. That's broken as ****.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1365	Posted - 2014.01.03 16:58:00 - [20] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Nothing can beat the ScR with a modded controller. HMG has been doing a pretty good job of it since the last hotfix. I need to surf a LAV into range first, however. I agree with the general statement though. "I don't always AR, but when I do, I ScR." ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûôGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 300/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù

Kage Roth Wolf-Monkey Bastards 89	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:37:00 - [21] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: KA24DERT wrote: 508.75 DPS for the base rifle with no skills, damage mods or headshots. To be clear, this is a bad thing. Every rifle in the game can pop someone in a split second with the right fit. That's broken as ****. That is assuming every shot hits and does 100% damage. The range of this game dramatically increased with the combat rifle and the rail rifle. So at the longer range fights, the original AR is usually doing down to 40-20% damage for each shot that hits and the spread means fewer shots actually hit the target. So if you control your ranges and have good intel you can control the engagement. I can also say that the proto-tanks are a heck of a lot harder to take down before they have a chance to duck back and regen. As long as they don't go running out into the open. There is a huge difference between theory and practice.
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1306	Posted - 2014.01.14 01:42:00 - [22] - Quote Scr is still way more OP... Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubadosPronto saberá justiça I am a Defender of the downtroddenSoon you will discover justice
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1306	Posted - 2014.01.14 01:45:00 - [23] - Quote just remember the GAR has no recoil, combat rifle has THE highest recoil of all the assult rifles. Rail rifle is literally a GAR with more range, and a little more recoil. The Scrambler is just plain crazy, even when its not on an amar suit. But with the right fit (im not upset when its an amar assualt or logi using it... i mean that is the point to the racial bonus..XD) its rediculous. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubadosPronto saberá justiça I am a Defender of the downtroddenSoon you will discover justice
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 425	Posted - 2014.01.14 01:56:00 - [24] - Quote More HP for everyone! Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
LEHON Xeon Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 61	Posted - 2014.01.14 02:01:00 - [25] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: not 660 . Did some tests with it, and the fastest it can shoot is at 15.43 shots per second, 953 RPM (that's only with controlled bursts not smashing R1). At standard level the DPS is 508.75. If anybody has gotten it to shoot faster (without a modified controller) please share! EDIT: Spamning R1 actually lowers your DPS to 445 at standard level, in comparison a standard Assault rifle has 425 DPS. I have a special staggered button spamming technique I brought in from 007 Nightfire I use with the CR (in that game there was burst fire SMG called the MP9K I used to use all the time) that allows me extreme rates of fire without suffering much accuracy. If I use my technique right i can empty the entire CR clip in about 1.5-2 seconds. I can kill heavies sometimes faster than they can me with an hmg at close range (unless they're the one shot variant). If anyone is standing still I can basically kill them almost instantly without a headshot through the scope, or crosshairs. Necrophillia: That Uncontrollable Urge To Crack Open A Cold One.


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