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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2013.12.31 11:42:00 -
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My corp mate told me they're planning on removing an equipment slot or something from Logis.
IS THAT RIGHT. REALLY CCP.
Look... I'm a full proto Logi now... and I still feel like an ant being crushed by giants. And this is after about 6 months of active boosters.
As it is now a Logi is outclassed by everything in 1 on 1 combat except maybe a foolish Scout. Taking away my armor is going to make my Logi a glass cannon and a weak, slow one at that.
I'm sorry but if you nerf Logis and NOT RAIL AND COMBAT RIFLES then I will simply STOP PLAYING THE GAME. |
Valmorgan Aubaris
Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services ACME Holding Conglomerate
95
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Posted - 2013.12.31 11:43:00 -
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How much money have you spent on the game? Be honest please.
EVE alliance seeks mercs, join Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services today!
Let's gank Scotty.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
18
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Posted - 2013.12.31 11:45:00 -
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Valmorgan Aubaris wrote:How much money have you spent on the game? Be honest please.
Exactly 90 dollars. Of course I liked it a lot more before the new weapons and the tank buff. |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
1149
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Posted - 2013.12.31 11:51:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:My corp mate told me they're planning on removing an equipment slot or something from Logis.
IS THAT RIGHT. REALLY CCP.
Look... I'm a full proto Logi now... and I still feel like an ant being crushed by giants. And this is after about 6 months of active boosters.
As it is now a Logi is outclassed by everything in 1 on 1 combat except maybe a foolish Scout. Taking away my armor is going to make my Logi a glass cannon and a weak, slow one at that.
I'm sorry but if you nerf Logis and NOT RAIL AND COMBAT RIFLES then I will simply STOP PLAYING THE GAME.
No they aren't planning on removing equipment slots. At least that is not what CCP has said.
What they have told us is that they are going to make it so logistics suits are less dominant as front line combat suits are more specialized to work as support suits (ie. repping, resupplying, hacking, and the like).
They have not said how they are going to make these changes come about how ever, so speculation abounds. I seriously doubt that removing equipment slots would make logis logi more. It would probably make them fit for more agressive play which would entirely defeat the point.
On a side note your threat to quit means absolutly nothing to any of us, including CCP. People quit and start games all the time. Some loss is inevitable with any changes. The end result of statements like "I'm going to quit if x happens," is making your other points seem less valid.
This is the same kind of argument that kids use. Remeber people saying, "if you do x I won't be your friend any more?" Well that is what you are doing. Threatening to not be CCP's friend. The difference between the kids statement and yours is that when your a kid the idea of loosing a friend is actually scary. To a huge corporation or the larger player base the threat of loosing you isn't scary at all.
Sorry to break it to you but you just don't matter than much. Man, life and reality are harsh some of the time aren't they.
Fun > Realism
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1734
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Posted - 2013.12.31 11:51:00 -
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Logistic suit outclassed by everything in one on one? My pure logibro setup kills most suits with just standard weapons. I can't take an aware heavy with it, but that's about it.
If you want to be outclassed, be a Minmatar Scout. (amirite, gais?) Even I don't run that damn thing and I use A-I for a sickening pleasure.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
Use the Commando A-I suit and show your worth.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
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Posted - 2013.12.31 11:54:00 -
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bamboo x wrote: I'm sorry but if you nerf Logis and NOT RAIL AND COMBAT RIFLES then I will simply STOP PLAYING THE GAME.
They really need to add a dislike button.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
18
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Posted - 2013.12.31 12:00:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe
I'm sorry I can't quite understand your foreign accent |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
1149
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Posted - 2013.12.31 12:05:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe Molon Labe I'm sorry I can't quite understand your foreign accent
I'm glad to see you use such a highly developed form of discourse in your arguments. Perhaps if you read what I wrote you would not only calm down (since I shared all the facts anyone actually knows about your feared nerf) but also get some insight into how your comments could have a larger impact on the community and the game you play.
If you'd rather I troll you by typing my corps name repeatedly though I will oblige.
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Fun > Realism
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2013.12.31 12:21:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:No they aren't planning on removing equipment slots. At least that is not what CCP has said.
I edited my first post. I meant to say module slots.
Quote:On a side note your threat to quit means absolutly nothing to any of us, including CCP.
To a huge corporation or the larger player base the threat of loosing you isn't scary at all.
Keeping your customers happy is vital to any business. Being part of the crowd does not detract from the value of the individual.
I'm not the only person who's been a loyal customer of Nintendo for the past 15 years, and I assure you if they stopped making me happy with their products I would not be the only one whose business they lost.
Every dissatisfied customer in a business has the potential to give that business bad advertisement by telling other people they shouldn't buy from them. |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
1153
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Posted - 2013.12.31 12:34:00 -
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Actually most buisness don't really care about the individual. Sorry.
When have you heard of a company changing its product/pollicy to rectify the complaint of a single person? Never.
Sure companies want your buisness but they aren't going to deviate from their plan just to please you. They are trying to appeal to either a generalized view of the consumer or a specialized group of consumers.
Your $90 isn't that much in the scheme of CCP's earnings and since you have already payed $90 (which is well in excess of what most games cost) CCP doesn't really have much motivation to help just you. Now if you were saying something more along the lines of "I would be willing to give you more money for x feature and I would really push all my friends to also pay more money for x," then you telling the company something they want to hear.
Remeber, it is really all about how you phrase things.
For example: Helpfull comment from CCP's point of view "I am really interested in more EVE /DUST514 interaction since it would make the game more fun." Unhelpful comment from CCP's point of view "The EVE/DUST514 interaction sucks."
One tells CCP what you are looking for in a positive encouraging way, the other makes the writer seem like an idiot who needs to be ignored.
Fun > Realism
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Scout Registry
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Posted - 2013.12.31 12:43:00 -
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But ... dudebro ... Wolfman ... you said ... on IRC ... back before Uprising 1.0 came out ...
All my dawgs! Pick Logi muh dawgs. But don't tell nobody, fuhreal! It's gonna have crazy slots and stats, dudebros ... You want to be a Scout? Be better than any Scout! You want to be an Assault? Be better than any Assault! You want to stand out in the open and soak damage like a boss? You can do that too! Its gonna be just like a Heavy but better!
Ya'll shoulda been there ... I straight fooled 'em ...
:: rolls back time ::
QA: "Wolfman, No ... this suit's gonna be way too good. No way we're letting that beast-frame into Uprising, sir. Especially after that hatchet you took to Scouts. This can't happen."
Wolfman: "Come on, QA ... didn't you see the Logi's in Chrome. They were terribad. All these perks you're worried about ... they'll just make our Medics a little bit more durable. It'll be fine. Promise."
QA: "We know what you're doing, Wolfman. You're trying to sneak a beast-suit through for your low-skill dudebro pals from IRC. Imagine what would happen if -- say -- everyone at Nyain San found out about this beast-suit of yours."
Wolfman: "Ain't nobody at Nyain San gonna use Logi! They're straight killers! They gonna stick to Assault. Maybe switch to Tanks ... if we ever go through Top-Secret-Project-Code-Name Indestructible. They won't abuse the beast-sui ... er ... I mean, Logi suit. Promise."
:: rolls forward time ::
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
20
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Posted - 2013.12.31 12:51:00 -
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Look. A video game developer is a lot closer to the community than say, Shell Gasoline.
For example Publix is a very large supermarket chain in the southeast USA.
If you want to take a rotten container of cottage cheese back to the store after you just bought it, and the store doesn't allow you to do this, you are not the only one they will do this to.
You are right that if I stop buying CCPs products this will not be noticed by them or will it amount to more than a fraction of 1% of their business.
But you are wrong thinking that I'd be the ONLY ONE to make that decision based on similar reasons.
A business that does not listen to the needs of the individual is ALSO not listening to the thousands of people who are thinking the SAME THING AS HIM |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.12.31 13:03:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:But ... dudebro ... Wolfman ... you said ... on IRC ... back before Uprising 1.0 came out ...
All my dawgs! Pick Logi muh dawgs. But don't tell nobody, fuhreal! It's gonna have crazy slots and stats, dudebros ... You want to be a Scout? Be better than any Scout! You want to be an Assault? Be better than any Assault! You want to stand out in the open and soak damage like a boss? You can do that too! Its gonna be just like a Heavy! But better!
This is actually the best thing I've read all day.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
Use the Commando A-I suit and show your worth.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.31 13:09:00 -
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I wish there was a way to add dislikes to the OPs post. |
Sev Alcatraz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
386
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Posted - 2013.12.31 13:13:00 -
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Cya later **** lord
closed beta vet
>wants the sagaris back :/
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2292
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Posted - 2013.12.31 13:25:00 -
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Rumor and speculation. Save the rant until you hear something concrete.
// Spear Lieutenant // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
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NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
672
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Posted - 2013.12.31 13:36:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:My corp mate told me they're planning on removing a module slot or something from Logis.
IS THAT RIGHT. REALLY CCP.
Look... I'm a full proto Logi now... and I still feel like an ant being crushed by giants. And this is after about 6 months of active boosters.
As it is now a Logi is outclassed by everything in 1 on 1 combat except maybe a foolish Scout. Taking away my armor is going to make my Logi a glass cannon and a weak, slow one at that.
I'm sorry but if you nerf Logis and NOT RAIL AND COMBAT RIFLES then I will simply STOP PLAYING THE GAME.
"As it is now a Logi is outclassed by everything in 1 on 1 combat except maybe a foolish Scout"
I almost cried when i read that. May be you should go to search area and Type in Logi Slayer, lolLogi, Cal Logi, Gal Logi and so on... |
IVIaster LUKE
302
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Posted - 2013.12.31 13:45:00 -
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Meh. I don't use logi's for slayer, so no big deal here.
Nerf hammer is coming though . Seriously, Everyone knew it was bound to happen. Look at CCP's track record.
"If you can dodge a Wrench, you can dodge a Duvolle".
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voidfaction
Void of Faction
91
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Posted - 2013.12.31 14:11:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Look. A video game developer is a lot closer to the community than say, Shell Gasoline.
For example Publix is a very large supermarket chain in the southeast USA.
If you want to take a rotten container of cottage cheese back to the store after you just bought it, and the store doesn't allow you to do this, you are not the only one they will do this to.
You are right that if I stop buying CCPs products this will not be noticed by them or will it amount to more than a fraction of 1% of their business.
But you are wrong thinking that I'd be the ONLY ONE to make that decision based on similar reasons.
A business that does not listen to the needs of the individual is ALSO not listening to the thousands of people who are thinking the SAME THING AS HIM
If they don't nerf the logi suit I will so quit this game. what will CCP do now? they have to make both of us happy to keep us. Who will it be you or me? LOL
You are also wrong thinking there are not thousands of people that also want the logi nerfed out of the assault class and into the logi class.
CCP will lose players if they do or if they don't depending on the side of the fence on the subject. All the same they possibly can make some come back either way.
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