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SGT NOVA STAR
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:05:00 -
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At what point are you just going to make an announcement like "this is our game, this is the way it will stay and be, if you don't like it then were sorry"? I'm just waiting until that day that one dev speaks his mind. I say any nerf or under powered threads should be erased. Because these posts on here are not the normal posts you would see from a game like borderlands or call of duty. All it is, is tank, rail, av complaining. Just tell us ccp, don't you get annoyed about all these threads? After working so hard? One day you'll do it, and it'll be the greatest thing for this game.
VAYU! I CHOOSE YOU!
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2840
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:13:00 -
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Those "Nerf It" and "It's Underpowered" threads need to exist.
Nobody wants to play a broken game, so if CCP says "We know it's broken, It's our game HTFU" or something like that, then you can guarantee that nobody will want to play anything other than the one thing that is overpowered.
You see a massive decline in player counts. I guarantee it.
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echo47
Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:18:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Those "Nerf It" and "It's Underpowered" threads need to exist.
Nobody wants to play a broken game, so if CCP says "We know it's broken, It's our game HTFU" or something like that, then you can guarantee that nobody will want to play anything other than the one thing that is overpowered.
You see a massive decline in player counts. I guarantee it.
I doubt it.
People are already invested in this game. If you haven't quit by now and by quit I mean deleted your account it is not likely that you will and CCP knows this.
I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
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Amarrgheddon
Warcaste
2
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:18:00 -
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I think they do not care. I see all the same threads day in day out but no blue tags. People are getting moderated but no responses. They must not have any plans on fixing things. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
617
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:19:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Those "Nerf It" and "It's Underpowered" threads need to exist.
Nobody wants to play a broken game, so if CCP says "We know it's broken, It's our game HTFU" or something like that, then you can guarantee that nobody will want to play anything other than the one thing that is overpowered.
You see a massive decline in player counts. I guarantee it.
Broken? no "in development", maybe one day, all will be perfect.
Assassination is my thing.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
633
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:22:00 -
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SGT NOVA STAR wrote:At what point are you just going to make an announcement like "this is our game, this is the way it will stay and be, if you don't like it then were sorry"? I'm just waiting until that day that one dev speaks his mind. I say any nerf or under powered threads should be erased. Because these posts on here are not the normal posts you would see from a game like borderlands or call of duty. All it is, is tank, rail, av complaining. Just tell us ccp, don't you get annoyed about all these threads? After working so hard? One day you'll do it, and it'll be the greatest thing for this game.
I totally get where you are coming from with the OP but there is a need for these type of posts. Unfortunately many of them are too colored with mudslinging.
Just remember when a game like Borderlands or COD arrive they are highly polished winners right out of the $60 per game box. CCP is working on a different model with the FTP base game and micro-transactions. |
NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
117
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:26:00 -
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Still waiting on a official statement why Splash Damage on the Forge turned the gun into a nitch only weapon. Something with K/D and/or Isk Ratio statistics to show that it was more then cry hards and special interest medium suite players making the call on that change.
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
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Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
356
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:29:00 -
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SGT NOVA STAR wrote:At what point are you just going to make an announcement like "this is our game, this is the way it will stay and be, if you don't like it then were sorry"? I'm just waiting until that day that one dev speaks his mind. I say any nerf or under powered threads should be erased. Because these posts on here are not the normal posts you would see from a game like borderlands or call of duty. All it is, is tank, rail, av complaining. Just tell us ccp, don't you get annoyed about all these threads? After working so hard? One day you'll do it, and it'll be the greatest thing for this game.
Behold, a modern slave. |
dent 308
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2219
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:31:00 -
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IMO you have zero chance of any company publicly posting something along these lines.
CCP can't just shitpost the forums with shortsighted blurf. Thats the players job.
Hail Satan
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:31:00 -
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The thing about these things is that no one is looking at them objectively.
I come from a competitive RTS background. Generally, the scrubs would instantly whine after every balance change, while the actual pros would take at least a week to form their first opinion.
Just look at what we have right now:
Day 1: Tanks are overpowered!
End of month: Sticky REs are awesome!
People need to learn to take these things slowly and let the metagame develop before they talk about balance. Instead of whining, you should invest that time in trying to break the balance as horribly as possible.
Unfortunately, the combination of F2P, FPS, personal investment (skills) and a few other factors leads to a climate where everyone attacks everyone instead of trying to collect proper feedback. |
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m twiggz
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
212
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:32:00 -
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SGT NOVA STAR wrote:At what point are you just going to make an announcement like "this is our game, this is the way it will stay and be, if you don't like it then were sorry"? I'm just waiting until that day that one dev speaks his mind. I say any nerf or under powered threads should be erased. Because these posts on here are not the normal posts you would see from a game like borderlands or call of duty. All it is, is tank, rail, av complaining. Just tell us ccp, don't you get annoyed about all these threads? After working so hard? One day you'll do it, and it'll be the greatest thing for this game.
Games like Borderlands, CoD and BF don't have nerf/OP threads because once their game is released they do very little rebalancing. CCP has shown time and again if people complain about something enough they'll change it. They really did it to themselves.
All in all this game is still undergoing development. I wish that they would focus more towards releasing all of the content and fixing actual broken game mechanics then work on rebalancing. It's difficult to fully balance something when all of the content doesn't exist. |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
767
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:33:00 -
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Listening to the intelligent part of the player base and incorporating proper feedback can work really well when done right.
Unfortunately, the reasonable, smart, constructive voices who are capable of recognising the validity of several different arguments at once and work towards a common consensus and the loudest voices are often not the same thing - like not even close. |
Mithridates VI
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2366
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:40:00 -
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They need feedback, it's a pretty critical step in the iterative development methodology they're using.
Most of these threads, though, aren't particularly useful as feedback, except in a general sense that expressions of dissatisfaction give a vague indication of what direction they need to be working in. What they really need to do, in my opinion, is better focus their feedback collection.
A lot of feedback can be gathered without conversation with players, simply by analysing data, and I'm skeptical that the threads in which players speculate on precise balance changes are worthwhile as anything but an exercise in make-believing they are game developers... but if CCP really want to engage us for feedback, and despite all indications otherwise I think this is something they mean to do, these forums are a terrible tool for that.
That's my feedback on the forums.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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