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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:04:00 -
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I'm sure 500k-1mil isk would be enough to few a few quality mercs to fight. Maybe just straight up hiring a few teams for a season of FW fighting.
I guess you would have to hire 5 mercs at a time then assign a supervisor to make sure they do the job. Kind of easier said then done, but still would be cool to see a massive shift in FW.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Ploo-Koon
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:05:00 -
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What would be the benefit to the employer?
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
617
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:05:00 -
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I'm up for hire, a good mil will help me fight with my pro
Assassination is my thing.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
617
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:06:00 -
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Ploo-Koon wrote:What would be the benefit to the employer?
Winning? you're from star wars!!!
Assassination is my thing.
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Ploo-Koon
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:08:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Ploo-Koon wrote:What would be the benefit to the employer? Winning? you're from star wars!!!
I could see that if you were hiring mercs to squad with you but not just pay them to pay FW on their own.
And yes, well spotted.
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Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
4102
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:08:00 -
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There is no way to make sure they're fighting for your faction though, and its not like it'd make a difference with how one sided battles are right now.
DUST is so broken, even my PS3 refuses to let me play it.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
1347
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:18:00 -
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Ploo-Koon wrote:What would be the benefit to the employer?
ISK
1.125M per merc and pay each merc 1M. It wouldn't be hard to do if you were well know and trusted. I can't believe that we have seen a FW for hire corp either. I think that a big problem is the EVE connections, no one seems to care about anything. In EVE people are passionate about their corporation and/or faction but DUST seems to be more lone wolf type of play. A good contractor corp could swing FW to the highest bidder anytime they wanted if they had the talent.
Might even could talk to a rich EVE FW pilot and get some ISK EVE side to help entice DUST players, that is if Spero still does the money transfers. They should start allowing ISK transfers with a high tax. I would fit better gear more often if I could get into my EVE ISKies because I am not good enough to turn a good profit and I feel broke if I don't have 25M in my wallet.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
1347
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:19:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:There is no way to make sure they're fighting for your faction though, and its not like it'd make a difference with how one sided battles are right now.
A six merc ringer squad would probably turn 50% of the battles.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
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Ploo-Koon
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:20:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Ploo-Koon wrote:What would be the benefit to the employer? ISK 1.125M per merc and pay each merc 1M. It wouldn't be hard to do if you were well know and trusted. I can't believe that we have seen a FW for hire corp either. I think that a big problem is the EVE connections, no one seems to care about anything. In EVE people are passionate about their corporation and/or faction but DUST seems to be more lone wolf type of play. A good contractor corp could swing FW to the highest bidder anytime they wanted if they had the talent. Might even could talk to a rich EVE FW pilot and get some ISK EVE side to help entice DUST players, that is if Spero still does the money transfers. They should start allowing ISK transfers with a high tax. I would fit better gear more often if I could get into my EVE ISKies because I am not good enough to turn a good profit and I feel broke if I don't have 25M in my wallet.
Maybe I'm being dense or missing the point but:
If I hire a group of 6 mercs, pay them 6 million ISK, and have them play FW, how do *I* make ISK?
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Elmo Love U
514 Mile High Club
553
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:55:00 -
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Ploo-Koon wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Ploo-Koon wrote:What would be the benefit to the employer? ISK 1.125M per merc and pay each merc 1M. It wouldn't be hard to do if you were well know and trusted. I can't believe that we have seen a FW for hire corp either. I think that a big problem is the EVE connections, no one seems to care about anything. In EVE people are passionate about their corporation and/or faction but DUST seems to be more lone wolf type of play. A good contractor corp could swing FW to the highest bidder anytime they wanted if they had the talent. Might even could talk to a rich EVE FW pilot and get some ISK EVE side to help entice DUST players, that is if Spero still does the money transfers. They should start allowing ISK transfers with a high tax. I would fit better gear more often if I could get into my EVE ISKies because I am not good enough to turn a good profit and I feel broke if I don't have 25M in my wallet. Maybe I'm being dense or missing the point but: If I hire a group of 6 mercs, pay them 6 million ISK, and have them play FW, how do *I* make ISK?
Um u don't get isk, figting in FW anyway. Its about the joy of mopping the battlefield with gallentee scum.
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Ploo-Koon
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
506
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:57:00 -
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Elmo Love U wrote:Ploo-Koon wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Ploo-Koon wrote:What would be the benefit to the employer? ISK 1.125M per merc and pay each merc 1M. It wouldn't be hard to do if you were well know and trusted. I can't believe that we have seen a FW for hire corp either. I think that a big problem is the EVE connections, no one seems to care about anything. In EVE people are passionate about their corporation and/or faction but DUST seems to be more lone wolf type of play. A good contractor corp could swing FW to the highest bidder anytime they wanted if they had the talent. Might even could talk to a rich EVE FW pilot and get some ISK EVE side to help entice DUST players, that is if Spero still does the money transfers. They should start allowing ISK transfers with a high tax. I would fit better gear more often if I could get into my EVE ISKies because I am not good enough to turn a good profit and I feel broke if I don't have 25M in my wallet. Maybe I'm being dense or missing the point but: If I hire a group of 6 mercs, pay them 6 million ISK, and have them play FW, how do *I* make ISK? Um u don't get isk, figting in FW anyway. Its about the joy of mopping the battlefield with gallentee scum.
I'm aware of that, but The Robot Devil answered my question in a way that didn't make sense, so I was asking them to clarify without pointing out they didn't read my original question properly.
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BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
556
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Posted - 2013.12.30 21:02:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I'm sure 500k-1mil isk would be enough to few a few quality mercs to fight. Maybe just straight up hiring a few teams for a season of FW fighting.
I guess you would have to hire 5 mercs at a time then assign a supervisor to make sure they do the job. Kind of easier said then done, but still would be cool to see a massive shift in FW.
Who is hiring?
LOL EVE pilots don't give two ***** about this game.
Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter BattleDuty 514
Working as intended.
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Rusty Shallows
618
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Posted - 2013.12.30 21:07:00 -
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Ploo-Koon wrote:Elmo Love U wrote:Ploo-Koon wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Ploo-Koon wrote:What would be the benefit to the employer? Snip In EVE people are passionate about their corporation and/or faction but DUST seems to be more lone wolf type of play. A good contractor corp could swing FW to the highest bidder anytime they wanted if they had the talent.Snip Maybe I'm being dense or missing the point but: If I hire a group of 6 mercs, pay them 6 million ISK, and have them play FW, how do *I* make ISK? Um u don't get isk, figting in FW anyway. Its about the joy of mopping the battlefield with gallentee scum. I'm aware of that, but The Robot Devil answered my question in a way that didn't make sense, so I was asking them to clarify without pointing out they didn't read my original question properly.
He did answer you question, indirectly. I deleted the extra text and underlined the relevant part. It's a Role Play thing. If the only conditions you consider valid are profit (more isk than invested) or added game advantage (boosts) then the answer is you have no reason to hire mercenaries.
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Forums > Game
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Miokai Zahou
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
91
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Posted - 2013.12.30 21:21:00 -
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How does one in eve hire a dust merc anyway? |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1855
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Posted - 2013.12.30 22:30:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I'm sure 500k-1mil isk would be enough to few a few quality mercs to fight. Maybe just straight up hiring a few teams for a season of FW fighting.
I guess you would have to hire 5 mercs at a time then assign a supervisor to make sure they do the job. Kind of easier said then done, but still would be cool to see a massive shift in FW. Who is hiring? LOL EVE pilots don't give two ***** about this game.
I think most have a vested interest in Dust. If CCP follows through with the promise of making Dust and EVE truly connected then they will kind of have to...at least in the future.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1417
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Posted - 2013.12.30 22:34:00 -
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Ive already been paid by caldari eve pilots on a per hour basis. A cool 1.2 mil for two hours of smashing gallente space hippy scum. |
Free Beers
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1624
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Posted - 2013.12.30 22:45:00 -
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Caldari paid us, to bad ccp hates eve players that want to actually form a real link with dust mercs to accomplish something real in fw.
What i find say is I have a bunch of toons and the ones that afk for gallente and minmatar have much higher standing then when i use free beers to fight for amarr or caldri. smh
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Djinn b4lock
Ancient Textiles.
256
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Posted - 2013.12.30 22:51:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I'm sure 500k-1mil isk would be enough to few a few quality mercs to fight. Maybe just straight up hiring a few teams for a season of FW fighting.
I guess you would have to hire 5 mercs at a time then assign a supervisor to make sure they do the job. Kind of easier said then done, but still would be cool to see a massive shift in FW.
They have, but it's been for suicide and grief squads on the opposing team. They're pretty dastardly. A halfway competent one is guaranteed to throw a match.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1448
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Posted - 2013.12.30 22:53:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I'm sure 500k-1mil isk would be enough to few a few quality mercs to fight. Maybe just straight up hiring a few teams for a season of FW fighting.
I guess you would have to hire 5 mercs at a time then assign a supervisor to make sure they do the job. Kind of easier said then done, but still would be cool to see a massive shift in FW.
For what? For one match? Hell no. Just running with my corp instead.
Gallente and Minmatar don't need it and Caldari and Amarr don't think it's worth it.
Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2013.12.30 23:00:00 -
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Just some points I added to throw out there.
You can pick which side you fight on in FW. Before you accept the contract, hit square to open the options and have only the faction you want to fight for selected.
EVE players can't directly transfer ISK to Dust players to hire them. I'm aware of several player run EVE-Dust ISK transfer services. Not sure about the details of how they work or their reputation, though.
Dust players can pick which faction they fight for in FW, but can't currently pick which planet they fight on. That might make a difference for the next point...
Dust players winning fights for districts in FW planetside will effect something or other in EVE FW, presumably to that sides benefit. I don't do FW in EVE so I'm not sure the details, but it's definitely there. I assume that benefit to the EVE FW players helps them capture/secure/defend FW zones more easily, which I further assume results in easier LP farming, which leads to me ISK. |
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
964
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Posted - 2013.12.30 23:09:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:BMSTUBBY wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I'm sure 500k-1mil isk would be enough to few a few quality mercs to fight. Maybe just straight up hiring a few teams for a season of FW fighting.
I guess you would have to hire 5 mercs at a time then assign a supervisor to make sure they do the job. Kind of easier said then done, but still would be cool to see a massive shift in FW. Who is hiring? LOL EVE pilots don't give two ***** about this game. I think most have a vested interest in Dust. If CCP follows through with the promise of making Dust and EVE truly connected then they will kind of have to...at least in the future.
THE only way for EVE players to care about DUST is if resources are completely dependent upon PI and PC.
That might happen in 10 years. Without that though DUST is not what was intended and will die amid the sea of basic FPS shooters.
Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn!
BURN DUST 2014
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
1046
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Posted - 2013.12.30 23:10:00 -
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without a unified market and isk transfer it's impossible. |
True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5313
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Posted - 2013.12.30 23:14:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I'm sure 500k-1mil isk would be enough to few a few quality mercs to fight. Maybe just straight up hiring a few teams for a season of FW fighting.
I guess you would have to hire 5 mercs at a time then assign a supervisor to make sure they do the job. Kind of easier said then done, but still would be cool to see a massive shift in FW.
Then only people who could afford that are the major players and they already are aligned in FW......so what is the point?
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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ratamaq doc
Edge Regiment
326
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Posted - 2013.12.30 23:29:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:
I think that a big problem is the EVE connections, no one seems to care about anything. In EVE people are passionate about their corporation and/or faction but DUST seems to be more lone wolf type of play. A good contractor corp could swing FW to the highest bidder anytime they wanted if they had the talent.
"... but I'm a mercenary, I don't judge your ambitions. I only judge what you can afford. Pay my price and I'll strike down the heavens..."
I think we our attitude in Dust is exactly what it is suppose to be. The Caldari should have to pay for their mercs. That would be keeping with the FW lore. Let the Amarr fight for God, the Matari fight for freedom or revenge, the Gallente for ****. If the Caldari want to win, the better throw down some ISK.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1855
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Posted - 2013.12.31 00:23:00 -
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ratamaq doc wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:
I think that a big problem is the EVE connections, no one seems to care about anything. In EVE people are passionate about their corporation and/or faction but DUST seems to be more lone wolf type of play. A good contractor corp could swing FW to the highest bidder anytime they wanted if they had the talent.
"... but I'm a mercenary, I don't judge your ambitions. I only judge what you can afford. Pay my price and I'll strike down the heavens..." I think we our attitude in Dust is exactly what it is suppose to be. The Caldari should have to pay for their mercs. That would be keeping with the FW lore. Let the Amarr fight for God, the Matari fight for freedom or revenge, the Gallente for ****. If the Caldari want to win, the better throw down some ISK.
Right now it seems the Amarr are fighting for the Matari since the HMG is good again and they want a weapon they can actually use. If the swarm launcher and forge gun were not nerfed(two of Caldari's main weapons) we would have probably seen a slightly better turn out for the squids.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
741
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Posted - 2013.12.31 00:30:00 -
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There is a form of hiring going on right now for caldari & amarr, unfortunately though it simply comes down to this, theres no benefit or gain for the employer thus he cannot provide enough funds to incentivise the players worth hiring, who are worth hiring due to running expensive gear and also having plenty of isk already. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1855
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Posted - 2013.12.31 00:44:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:There is a form of hiring going on right now for caldari & amarr, unfortunately though it simply comes down to this, theres no benefit or gain for the employer thus he cannot provide enough funds to incentivise the players worth hiring, who are worth hiring due to running expensive gear and also having plenty of isk already.
It would probably take someone with a interest in seeing the Caldari win(Sev) just for the sake of winning to even try to get something like this going.
Maybe get some of the Caldari loyalist to chip in some isk to pay a steady stream of mercs to win for Caldari.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
928
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Posted - 2013.12.31 00:58:00 -
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a large benifactor paid me(ML,STB,HS,IMPs,ect,ect,ect) 250k per match to run caldari FW in eha a couple of days ago. it didn't work so well trying to get a specific system in FW is nearly impossible and trying to q sync that system doublely so.
so people have started hiring mercs you're just not in the loop  . that said it's rather difficult at thispoint to organise any real offensive with the current mechanics.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1855
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Posted - 2013.12.31 01:05:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:a large benifactor paid me(ML,STB,HS,IMPs,ect,ect,ect) 250k per match to run caldari FW in eha a couple of days ago. it didn't work so well trying to get a specific system in FW is nearly impossible and trying to q sync that system doublely so. so people have started hiring mercs you're just not in the loop . that said it's rather difficult at thispoint to organise any real offensive with the current mechanics.
It would seem so.
Did you guys have a channel? I can send a few mercs your way to help with the fight.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
1351
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Posted - 2013.12.31 02:39:00 -
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Ploo-Koon wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Ploo-Koon wrote:What would be the benefit to the employer? ISK 1.125M per merc and pay each merc 1M. It wouldn't be hard to do if you were well know and trusted. I can't believe that we have seen a FW for hire corp either. I think that a big problem is the EVE connections, no one seems to care about anything. In EVE people are passionate about their corporation and/or faction but DUST seems to be more lone wolf type of play. A good contractor corp could swing FW to the highest bidder anytime they wanted if they had the talent. Might even could talk to a rich EVE FW pilot and get some ISK EVE side to help entice DUST players, that is if Spero still does the money transfers. They should start allowing ISK transfers with a high tax. I would fit better gear more often if I could get into my EVE ISKies because I am not good enough to turn a good profit and I feel broke if I don't have 25M in my wallet. Maybe I'm being dense or missing the point but: If I hire a group of 6 mercs, pay them 6 million ISK, and have them play FW, how do *I* make ISK?
That I don't know. I guess you would have other ways of funding your war chest. I figured that the people hiring the mercs were well heeled so ISK wasn't a problem. Making ISK in DUST is not as easy as it is in EVE, here in DUST there are few ways to make loads of ISK, I guess if you are really good, have access to a corp wallet or PC then it wouldn't be that big of a deal. Without a market and trading FW is a huge ISK sink and is played by people who are well off, RPers or like the challenge.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
1351
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Posted - 2013.12.31 03:01:00 -
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ratamaq doc wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:
I think that a big problem is the EVE connections, no one seems to care about anything. In EVE people are passionate about their corporation and/or faction but DUST seems to be more lone wolf type of play. A good contractor corp could swing FW to the highest bidder anytime they wanted if they had the talent.
"... but I'm a mercenary, I don't judge your ambitions. I only judge what you can afford. Pay my price and I'll strike down the heavens..." I think we our attitude in Dust is exactly what it is suppose to be. The Caldari should have to pay for their mercs. That would be keeping with the FW lore. Let the Amarr fight for God, the Matari fight for freedom or revenge, the Gallente for ****. If the Caldari want to win, the better throw down some ISK.
I agree that the passion for ISK and fighting is the main driver for the game but at the same time there are those who are very much into the racial thing. To be honest I wished more people had the drive to fight for an ideal instead of cash but that is a different story.
We are mercenaries and we fight for the reasons we want and that is the only truth, ISK really only buys us time in a suit and the ability to kill quicker. I think if we had cosmetic items and other ways to spend ISK it would be different but right now the love of money only buys violent deaths and the ability to do it again.
I would be happy with an ISK casino where I could play Black Jack, Poker and slots. Think how fun a New Eden themed casino would be, throw in some Slay just to have something different.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
Hunter S. Thompson
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
929
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Posted - 2013.12.31 03:45:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:knight of 6 wrote:a large benifactor paid me(ML,STB,HS,IMPs,ect,ect,ect) 250k per match to run caldari FW in eha a couple of days ago. it didn't work so well trying to get a specific system in FW is nearly impossible and trying to q sync that system doublely so. so people have started hiring mercs you're just not in the loop . that said it's rather difficult at thispoint to organise any real offensive with the current mechanics. It would seem so. Did you guys have a channel? I can send a few mercs your way to help with the fight.
we had a couple channels up. but the event is over so everything is back to normal.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
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