DUST Search - Is PFC real?

xMaggot Brainx wrote:

I was reluctant to play in the last PFC PC battle my corp was involved in due to past experience.

I will be bold enough to say what I have thought for a while. Those who pretend to Police the District are involved in
Ringing in PFC. Those who Police the district have no one's interest but their own in mind when "enforcing" rules.
Maybe their interest is ISK, or maybe favors for allies. If nothing else to uphold their reputation.

The concept of PFC is the only thing that is real about it.

What's fake?

As we have probably all heard before "Rules were meant to be broken, but you can't make broken rules"

The rules / guidelines , up to this point are fake.

You see Maruader, A lie or a scam doesn't necessary need to be doubted, in reality it needs to be believed.

It's the moment when what was perceived to be is proven not to be. It was always a lie to the liar, but was once the truth to the ones lied too.

I believe (at least for me) that moment is upon us.

I expect to see sirens, cherry and berry blazing thru PFC and maybe other place in the molden heath very very soon.

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xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.12.29 07:07:00 - [1] - Quote I've heard so many horror stories about what goes on on this so called PFC planet. Shouldn't it be understood that all attacks on the planet are for corporations to gain experience in the PC world? Districts are not to be flipped. You fight with your corp. NOT with ringers. The rules seem simple yet are broken all the time. I propose not only the corporation owning a district on PFC whom violates the rules, but any corporations that decide to ring for them be punished as well. If Policing this Planet Is real then it needs to be understood that breaking the rules means you lose your district by any means necessary . If corp. "A" decides to attack corp. "B" to allow some of their newer members a chance to play in a PC and corp. "B" shows up with ringers they need to lose their planet because obviously they are not ready to be in ANY PC. With that, the corporations that those ringers are from should punished too.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 3955	Posted - 2013.12.29 07:16:00 - [2] - Quote No pfc isn't real. Yet it is real in a sense of what it is believed to be. A fake. It is a lie told and retold by the some, and believed and retold as truth by the many. It is one of the greatest scams of New Eden that, unfortunately or perhaps fortunately, isn't considered a scam yet. For you see, for something to be a lie or a scam, it must be doubted.... It must be believed to be a lie. It is because of this that pfc can be considered "real" But to answer your question in simpler terms. No. Pfc was a sham created by the community. The true goal of said scam is to farm as much isk as possible. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 3 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 209	Posted - 2013.12.29 07:25:00 - [3] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: No pfc isn't real. Yet it is real in a sense of what it is believed to be. A fake. It is a lie told and retold by the some, and believed and retold as truth by the many. It is one of the greatest scams of New Eden that, unfortunately or perhaps fortunately, isn't considered a scam yet. For you see, for something to be a lie or a scam, it must be doubted.... It must be believed to be a lie. It is because of this that pfc can be considered "real" But to answer your question in simpler terms. No. Pfc was a sham created by the community. The true goal of said scam is to farm as much isk as possible. Words of wisdom. Please fix the mic bubble bug...
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.12.29 07:53:00 - [4] - Quote I was reluctant to play in the last PFC PC battle my corp was involved in due to past experience. I will be bold enough to say what I have thought for a while. Those who pretend to Police the District are involved in Ringing in PFC. Those who Police the district have no one's interest but their own in mind when "enforcing" rules. Maybe their interest is ISK, or maybe favors for allies. If nothing else to uphold their reputation. The concept of PFC is the only thing that is real about it. What's fake? As we have probably all heard before "Rules were meant to be broken, but you can't make broken rules" The rules / guidelines , up to this point are fake. You see Maruader, A lie or a scam doesn't necessary need to be doubted, in reality it needs to be believed. It's the moment when what was perceived to be is proven not to be. It was always a lie to the liar, but was once the truth to the ones lied too. I believe (at least for me) that moment is upon us. I expect to see sirens, cherry and berry blazing thru PFC and maybe other place in the molden heath very very soon.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 3958	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:16:00 - [5] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: I was reluctant to play in the last PFC PC battle my corp was involved in due to past experience. I will be bold enough to say what I have thought for a while. Those who pretend to Police the District are involved in Ringing in PFC. Those who Police the district have no one's interest but their own in mind when "enforcing" rules. Maybe their interest is ISK, or maybe favors for allies. If nothing else to uphold their reputation. The concept of PFC is the only thing that is real about it. What's fake? As we have probably all heard before "Rules were meant to be broken, but you can't make broken rules" The rules / guidelines , up to this point are fake. You see Maruader, A lie or a scam doesn't necessary need to be doubted, in reality it needs to be believed. It's the moment when what was perceived to be is proven not to be. It was always a lie to the liar, but was once the truth to the ones lied too. I believe (at least for me) that moment is upon us. I expect to see sirens, cherry and berry blazing thru PFC and maybe other place in the molden heath very very soon. Yes, youre right. a lie must believed, to be a lie. Thus it can true to say that every lie in this world was also the truth. For it is believed at one point. People have an inherent desire to know the truth. That or they want to believe that what they know, is the truth. Thus the truth is really only secondary. That means it can be said that the only thing that really matters is your belief on the subject. Not the truth. Whether or not pfc is really a farming isk scheme or not doesn't matter. What matters is what people believe to be true. In other words. The masses dictate the truth. And if they say so, pfc is real and is not a scheme. Thus, the rules can be deemed real as well. And if they are deemed as real and true, then you will be deemed as a fake and a liar. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 3 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1918	Posted - 2013.12.29 09:27:00 - [6] - Quote PFC is in **** state because those in charge haven't usually did a good job, bravo to DDB though NS is off of PFC and you've done a pretty good job, you're the best yet a wee bit more transparency and I'd say you've done a great job A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.12.29 15:50:00 - [7] - Quote Most really don't care about PFC to get as philosophical as some attempt to be. Truth is Dust is no different than real life. The strong take advantage of the less strong. A lie is still a lie regardless of what the masses believe.
MoonEagle A Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 83	Posted - 2013.12.29 17:41:00 - [8] - Quote I love the concept of a training ground for small corps. Unfortunately the big dogs cannot keep out of it and whoever pretends to police it do so only for their benefit. It's pretty much BS.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 2468	Posted - 2013.12.29 18:46:00 - [9] - Quote I like the idea of districts on a planet being vulnerable 2 or 3 times a day no matter what. To keep rolling conquest going on. I think it's the 24 and 48 hr BS that keeps PC stale. It would also make it impossible for '20 and 30 active corp members' corps to dominate large percentages of territory in PC. They could still cause massive damage and reap huge benefits. But it would be more relative to what you can manage as well as control. Things like locking districts (which I'm not a fan of *I know, I know) wouldn't be possible. Give a district a 8 hr window that kept the district protected to allow some time management Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 66	Posted - 2013.12.29 19:05:00 - [10] - Quote I say its about time to kick some of these corps off of PFC and let some new smaller corps get in there. I see a couple corps on PFC who have been farming way to long hideing behind the rules. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu

Jin no kami Valor Coalition 21	Posted - 2013.12.29 22:28:00 - [11] - Quote Pfc is a institution created by the players for the players that's it I don't think it's training for anyone to hold a district in PC because everyone on pfc is scrimmaging there is no fear of having a district taken,if a district is flipped the occupying team is told to vacate or hand it over by overseers no such luxury exist in PC. there's no safety in the wild that is PC =ƒÜ+=ƒÖê=ƒÖë=ƒÖè
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2013.12.31 04:34:00 - [12] - Quote Jin no kami wrote: Pfc is a institution created by the players for the players that's it I don't think it's training for anyone to hold a district in PC because everyone on pfc is scrimmaging there is no fear of having a district taken,if a district is flipped the occupying team is told to vacate or hand it over by overseers no such luxury exist in PC. there's no safety in the wild that is PC =ƒÜ+=ƒÖê=ƒÖë=ƒÖè PFC was NOT created by the people. The planet was basically held hostage by those who were capable of enforcing THEIR rules on that planet. Any corps. that wanted to remain need abide by those rules. As long as the "scammers" hold their districts on the planet or their allies district, I don't think they really care about what else happens unless it falls under what I said in my previous posts... Mainly continuing the illusion of this starter corp. friendly planet..... I just heard about a PC held on PFC within the last week where the defending corporation showed up with 2 members, the other 14 non corp. members. WTF is that? Where does that fit into this nice little rule book that has been put together, taking apart and revised yet again? Ok maybe they couldn't field a 16 man team for some unseen circumstance. They still violated the rules so what's going to happen about that? 80% of the corps out there should be embarrassed of how they have others fight their battles for them. On PFC or anywhere in the Molden Heath. It's also embarrassing to have to tell the "police" that someone violated the rules while presenting sound evidence of the violation yet see no action taking place. Older post in older threads clearly show that the expectation is to have these matters sent directly to the policing corp. and posted here in regards to PFC.
Jin no kami Valor Coalition 21	Posted - 2013.12.31 12:47:00 - [13] - Quote By the means not the devs players of this game came up with pfc
The Baby Shaker Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 65	Posted - 2013.12.31 13:00:00 - [14] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: PFC is in ** state because those in charge haven't usually did a good job, bravo to DDB though NS is off of PFC and you've done a pretty good job, you're the best yet a wee bit more transparency and I'd say you've done a great job Thank skittles, the guy is awesome and is really trying to help clean up PFC. We just show up and shoot ** when the time comes lol I'm too drunk to taste this chicken


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