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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:12:00 -
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Stopping med frames and heavies using shotguns and nova knives.
It'll give scouts more of a role to play with.
Maybe a delay for how long the cloak lasts.
Assassination is my thing.
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Piraten Hovnoret
No Tax Scrubs
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:33:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Stopping med frames and heavies using shotguns and nova knives.
It'll give scouts more of a role to play with.
Maybe a delay for how long the cloak lasts.
This "free to do whatever with you fitting" have my questioning why heavies can use every gun there is
I know I know no equipment slot but still!?!?
And I am currently going scout. It's the only thing that is still fun in the game. |
Mithridates VI
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:34:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Stopping med frames and heavies using shotguns and nova knives.
You can do this without a cloak?
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Martyr Saboteur
Amarrtyrs
63
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:42:00 -
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Those light suits do look rather thin. Maybe a cloak would help prevent the users from getting frostbite on the colder maps... +1
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
641
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:43:00 -
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Don't forget - Cloaks will not be limited to scouts. They will simply be easier to fit on them with their vast systems buff.
We will also have the possibility of (likely Proto) suits with cloaks. Admittedly with crappier weapons/protection/equipment and be easier to scan. Still doesn't limit the possibility for a Heavy+HMG appearing out of nowhere to gun you down before hiding again.
Good thing scouts will also likely get direct cloak bonuses too e.g. less movement penalty or whatever
Additional - Just so you know I'm all in favour of multi suit use of the cloak. It will certainly make the game more interesting. Its not like they'll be too difficult to counter 
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1098
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:45:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Stopping med frames and heavies using shotguns and nova knives.
It'll give scouts more of a role to play with.
Maybe a delay for how long the cloak lasts. This "free to do whatever with you fitting" have my questioning why heavies can use every gun there is I know I know no equipment slot but still!?!? And I am currently going scout. It's the only thing that is still fun in the game.
If you have to question why heavies can use any gun you won't understand why.
"Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:49:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Stopping med frames and heavies using shotguns and nova knives. You can do this without a cloak?
Yeah but it'll be more effective with cloak.
Assassination is my thing.
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Spaceman-Rob
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
287
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:52:00 -
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Im loving the scout role but cloaking is a ridiculous idea, I hope it never happens, I mean come on, are you really telling me that there will be an invisible enemy on the field who can walk straight up to you and shoot you in the face without you ever knowing they are there. That is such a stupid unfair and unbalanced idea. |
Mithridates VI
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2346
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:54:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Stopping med frames and heavies using shotguns and nova knives. You can do this without a cloak? Yeah but it'll be more effective with cloak.
So this is a thread dedicated to the idea that being invisible will positively influence scouts efficacy?
Thanks for that.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
583
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:54:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Im loving the scout role but cloaking is a ridiculous idea, I hope it never happens, I mean come on, are you really telling me that there will be an invisible enemy on the field who can walk straight up to you and shoot you in the face without you ever knowing they are there. That is such a stupid unfair and unbalanced idea.
You can see them if you focus, like planetside 2's cloaking device
Assassination is my thing.
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Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
2509
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:56:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Im loving the scout role but cloaking is a ridiculous idea, I hope it never happens, I mean come on, are you really telling me that there will be an invisible enemy on the field who can walk straight up to you and shoot you in the face without you ever knowing they are there. That is such a stupid unfair and unbalanced idea.
You just think it is unbalanced but really I've seen cloaks implemented very well in multiple games. It's just that some games make it OP but if you're creative about it then you can make it balanced. Also this would most likely be equipment so you couldn't shotgun a guy unless you're not cloaked. |
Martyr Saboteur
Amarrtyrs
64
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:56:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Im loving the scout role but cloaking is a ridiculous idea, I hope it never happens, I mean come on, are you really telling me that there will be an invisible enemy on the field who can walk straight up to you and shoot you in the face without you ever knowing they are there. That is such a stupid unfair and unbalanced idea.
It wouldn't be that OP. Movement/Firing would probably disruption is the cloak, similar to the cloaks in Killzone, which are well balanced.
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
2232
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:58:00 -
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heavies use nova knifes???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Imagine a world where hypothetical thoughts didn't exist"
Closed Beta Vet
Scout/Logi/assault/Dropship/Tanker/Sniper
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Mithridates VI
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2346
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:59:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:heavies use nova knifes???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I run a proto commando with nova knives in both weapon slots.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
585
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:00:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:heavies use nova knifes???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Correction: blueberries using heavies use nova knives
Assassination is my thing.
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1430
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:00:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Im loving the scout role but cloaking is a ridiculous idea, I hope it never happens, I mean come on, are you really telling me that there will be an invisible enemy on the field who can walk straight up to you and shoot you in the face without you ever knowing they are there. That is such a stupid unfair and unbalanced idea.
Don't play too many FPS games huh? |
Spaceman-Rob
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
289
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:00:00 -
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Martyr Saboteur wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Im loving the scout role but cloaking is a ridiculous idea, I hope it never happens, I mean come on, are you really telling me that there will be an invisible enemy on the field who can walk straight up to you and shoot you in the face without you ever knowing they are there. That is such a stupid unfair and unbalanced idea. It wouldn't be that OP. Movement/Firing would probably disruption is the cloak, similar to the cloaks in Killzone, which are well balanced.
Killzone 3 cloaking was alright i suppose. yea if its done like that then it wouldnt be to bad. |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
2232
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:00:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Im loving the scout role but cloaking is a ridiculous idea, I hope it never happens, I mean come on, are you really telling me that there will be an invisible enemy on the field who can walk straight up to you and shoot you in the face without you ever knowing they are there. That is such a stupid unfair and unbalanced idea.
idea?
its coming out soon lol
"Imagine a world where hypothetical thoughts didn't exist"
Closed Beta Vet
Scout/Logi/assault/Dropship/Tanker/Sniper
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
585
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:01:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Martyr Saboteur wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Im loving the scout role but cloaking is a ridiculous idea, I hope it never happens, I mean come on, are you really telling me that there will be an invisible enemy on the field who can walk straight up to you and shoot you in the face without you ever knowing they are there. That is such a stupid unfair and unbalanced idea. It wouldn't be that OP. Movement/Firing would probably disruption is the cloak, similar to the cloaks in Killzone, which are well balanced. Killzone 3 cloaking was alright i suppose. yea if its done like that then it wouldnt be to bad.
XD i got killed with that cloak it was so stupid but it was fun.
Assassination is my thing.
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Spaceman-Rob
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
289
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:02:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Im loving the scout role but cloaking is a ridiculous idea, I hope it never happens, I mean come on, are you really telling me that there will be an invisible enemy on the field who can walk straight up to you and shoot you in the face without you ever knowing they are there. That is such a stupid unfair and unbalanced idea. Don't play too many FPS games huh?
I forgot about Killzones cloaking, not played planetside though. |
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
585
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:04:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Surt gods end wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Im loving the scout role but cloaking is a ridiculous idea, I hope it never happens, I mean come on, are you really telling me that there will be an invisible enemy on the field who can walk straight up to you and shoot you in the face without you ever knowing they are there. That is such a stupid unfair and unbalanced idea. Don't play too many FPS games huh? I forgot about Killzones cloaking, not played planetside though.
Watch videos about it heres one. He uses the cloak sometimes but the stats are balanced.
Assassination is my thing.
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Spaceman-Rob
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
289
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:06:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Im loving the scout role but cloaking is a ridiculous idea, I hope it never happens, I mean come on, are you really telling me that there will be an invisible enemy on the field who can walk straight up to you and shoot you in the face without you ever knowing they are there. That is such a stupid unfair and unbalanced idea. idea? its coming out soon lol
I'll let the experts figure that one out, theres some clever people on here, CCP should pinch a few of their ideas. I'm not the sharpest tool in the box when it comes to bright ideas. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:06:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Stopping med frames and heavies using shotguns and nova knives.
It'll give scouts more of a role to play with.
Maybe a delay for how long the cloak lasts.
All the Role should get some Special Ability used like an "Active Module" but for Dropsuits :
I mean we are in an RPG WHERE IS THE ABILITY ??????
Assaults : The ability to deal 5/10%/15% (STD/ADV/PRO) more damage for 5 seconds (Flux make it stay 10 seconds but lower the damage bonus).
Cooldown : 30sec.
Some version could lightly reduce the cooldown.
Logistics : Can deploy turrets.
They have Small weapons on it (Small turrets but with less damage) :
4 version one by faction : Amarr/Calda/Minmatarr/Gallente.
They use the actual AI of the big turret.
Each faction have diffrent stats (hp/RoF/dmg etcetc....)
STD/ADV/PRO is their cooldown to use an another when the first is destroyed.
And the ammo they have.
STD : 1.30 Min
ADV : 1 Min
PRO : 40sec
Scouts : Cloaking.
Heavy : Hardener like the tanks. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1100
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:07:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:heavies use nova knifes???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Correction: blueberries using heavies use nova knives
Further correct: people playing dust expert difficulty.
"Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
585
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:08:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:heavies use nova knifes???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Correction: blueberries using heavies use nova knives Further correct: people playing dust expert difficulty.
Don't push it, nice try.
Assassination is my thing.
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Piraten Hovnoret
No Tax Scrubs
162
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:13:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Stopping med frames and heavies using shotguns and nova knives.
It'll give scouts more of a role to play with.
Maybe a delay for how long the cloak lasts. This "free to do whatever with you fitting" have my questioning why heavies can use every gun there is I know I know no equipment slot but still!?!? And I am currently going scout. It's the only thing that is still fun in the game. If you have to question why heavies can use any gun you won't understand why.
Al can not be as al knowing as yourself
So plz let us dumb fu+ºks in on the answer
Maybe I should talk to roman mongr , sax or some one else to slap you in the face
Yeah I know them and they are considers my friends.
Respond in the forums as a STB not as a I-know-it-al scrub.
Regards from some one that have the utter and most respect for STB and al that it stand for witch you are not
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1100
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:21:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Stopping med frames and heavies using shotguns and nova knives.
It'll give scouts more of a role to play with.
Maybe a delay for how long the cloak lasts. This "free to do whatever with you fitting" have my questioning why heavies can use every gun there is I know I know no equipment slot but still!?!? And I am currently going scout. It's the only thing that is still fun in the game. If you have to question why heavies can use any gun you won't understand why. Al can not be as al knowing as yourself So plz let us dumb fu+ºks in on the answer Maybe I should talk to roman mongr , sax or some one else to slap you in the face Yeah I know them and they are considers my friends. Respond in the forums as a STB not as a I-know-it-al scrub. Regards from some one that have the utter and most respect for STB and al that it stand for witch you are not
Why exactly are you bringing my corp into this? The last time I checked I don't speak for the corp as a whole or on any scale whatsoever. Maybe if you didn't jump to conclusions you'd also be able to see that there isn't a problem with heavies using light weapons, just like there isn't a problem witj any suit carrying two sidearms.
"Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1100
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:22:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:heavies use nova knifes???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Correction: blueberries using heavies use nova knives Further correct: people playing dust expert difficulty. Don't push it, nice try.
I'd love to see someone come up with a more difficult to use set up.
"Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:24:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:heavies use nova knifes???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Correction: blueberries using heavies use nova knives Further correct: people playing dust expert difficulty. Don't push it, nice try. I'd love to see someone come up with a more difficult to use set up.
XD
Assassination is my thing.
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Onesimus Tarsus
729
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:26:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Im loving the scout role but cloaking is a ridiculous idea, I hope it never happens, I mean come on, are you really telling me that there will be an invisible enemy on the field who can walk straight up to you and shoot you in the face without you ever knowing they are there. That is such a stupid unfair and unbalanced idea.
As opposed to the suit that can't take a two-shot hit from anything North of a marshmallow gun.
Big red button that respecs your SP on demand.
Protos only get points from killing protos.
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