DUST Search - Now that Caldari and Minmatar rifles are released

Rowdy Railgunner wrote:

Bunny Demon wrote:

Lynn Beck wrote:

'SCR melts a heavy in one Oh, anyone telling you otherwise is a liar and/or is just bad.
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You obviously haven't properly used the scrambler rifle a lot then...let's look at the stats (I know everyone loves doing this Twisted

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With prof 5 and 2-3 complex damage mods the max damage is around 110 (it's very slightly higher but this is a nice number)
The charge shot makes that around 400-500 damage (I don't know the exact multiplier but it's definitely around/in this range)
The head shot multiplier for the SR is x1.5 I believe so that makes the damage 600-750 without shield/armour modifiers

This may one shot a militia heavy if you're lucky but anything higher will likely have close to or more than 1000 ehp and proto heavies can have 1500 ehp and considering that most of that is armour, it will take about 3-4 charged shots to kill them and with the charge delay that will mean that they will have hid before the 4th shot in most cases and with the overheat you'll be lucky to not over heat after the 2-3 charge shot unless you allow time for cool down by which time the heavy will likely be gone.

Tl;dr
So in conclusion the SR would be OP without the overheat as on anything other than an amarr assault you can only follow a charge shot by about 4 rapid fire shots before over heating which definitely does not kill a mid-top end heavy

All that and you do not mention the SCR OH glitch that people do in "LOOK HOW BADASS I AM" videos on youtube. I can name 4 prominent DUST youtubers that use the SCR OH glitch in atleast 1 of their videos. SCR is the only broken rifle, and the OH glitch is the reason.

While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.

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Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 320	Posted - 2013.12.28 09:03:00 - [1] - Quote Let's unnerf the TAC. Bring the magazine size back to what it was before the infamous TAC nerf because now that the RR and CR are out the 18 per mag nerf is a bit over the top. So unnerf the TAC and let it compete. I feel that is the only thing holding it back right now. Ranges are good, clip sizes are bad.
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 425	Posted - 2013.12.28 09:12:00 - [2] - Quote Nerf all AR's. They're crushing everything at the same time and it's EXTREMLY frustrating. Rr kills scouts in CQC with 3-6 shots, if they nerf it by 10-20% damage, that goes up to 7-8, meaning they can't just swing their gun madly and eventually land 3 shots. SCR melts a heavy in one Oh, anyone telling you otherwise is a liar and/or is just bad. CR(my pride)'s low damage per clip doesn't matter because you are guaranteed a kill or 2 in that clip and the reload means you needn't worry, making it take .75-1.4 clips to kill one person will make it more tactical. Gallente AR should probably be left alone, or nerfed less, like 7%. Shotguns can't work because after your first shot, RRs have finished their charg up(even if you hit them from behind) and are already starting their 2-3 shot kill time. Lasers can't be used because RR's instantly **** them past 60 meters. MD's are useless everywhere except roofs because RRs can hit them from past MD range, or they just rush you and spin in circles shooting you because 'hey, GL noobtoob watch me bumrush you and win LOL' Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) I have a God, His name is Dakka.
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 363	Posted - 2013.12.28 09:22:00 - [3] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Let's unnerf the TAC. Bring the magazine size back to what it was before the infamous TAC nerf because now that the RR and CR are out the 18 per mag nerf is a bit over the top. So unnerf the TAC and let it compete. I feel that is the only thing holding it back right now. Ranges are good, clip sizes are bad. No it is balanced stop it We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 320	Posted - 2013.12.28 09:23:00 - [4] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Let's unnerf the TAC. Bring the magazine size back to what it was before the infamous TAC nerf because now that the RR and CR are out the 18 per mag nerf is a bit over the top. So unnerf the TAC and let it compete. I feel that is the only thing holding it back right now. Ranges are good, clip sizes are bad. No it is balanced stop it Naa, give me back a 24 round magazine. 24 is a good number.
Bunny Demon Scions of Athra 51	Posted - 2013.12.28 09:35:00 - [5] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: 'SCR melts a heavy in one Oh, anyone telling you otherwise is a liar and/or is just bad. ' You obviously haven't properly used the scrambler rifle a lot then...let's look at the stats (I know everyone loves doing this ) With prof 5 and 2-3 complex damage mods the max damage is around 110 (it's very slightly higher but this is a nice number) The charge shot makes that around 400-500 damage (I don't know the exact multiplier but it's definitely around/in this range) The head shot multiplier for the SR is x1.5 I believe so that makes the damage 600-750 without shield/armour modifiers This may one shot a militia heavy if you're lucky but anything higher will likely have close to or more than 1000 ehp and proto heavies can have 1500 ehp and considering that most of that is armour, it will take about 3-4 charged shots to kill them and with the charge delay that will mean that they will have hid before the 4th shot in most cases and with the overheat you'll be lucky to not over heat after the 2-3 charge shot unless you allow time for cool down by which time the heavy will likely be gone. Tl;dr So in conclusion the SR would be OP without the overheat as on anything other than an amarr assault you can only follow a charge shot by about 4 rapid fire shots before over heating which definitely does not kill a mid-top end heavy Amarr logi ftw :D (Also...ScR is pretty good)
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1680	Posted - 2013.12.28 09:42:00 - [6] - Quote "Why would they do that? Who wants diversity? I should be able to pick up a fully automatic weapon and shoot snipers and shotgunners without having to ADS! Anything that kills me should be nerfed! Only my weapon and suit should be okay to use! Nerf everything else! My Duvolle should kill tanks!" Ahem. Now that the AR 514 is out of the way.... I don't think changing the number of rounds in the TAC is going to bring back its usage to what it used to be. The clip wasn't the only thing that was changed, if you compare it to the old glorified version of it. That was changed to prevent people from abusing the **** out of turbo controllers with it. After the changes, it drastically dropped in popularity because the drop of effectiveness. It's range, coupled with its rate of fire and damage, is easily outclassed. The standard variant of the Plasma Rifle even stomps out the TAC's range. It's... sad. I don't like that. Note: I'm not saying I'm against changing the clip size. "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara The Traitor, in the name of "freedom".
Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 320	Posted - 2013.12.28 09:45:00 - [7] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Note: I'm not saying I'm against changing the clip size. Then why do you write so much ****?
Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 320	Posted - 2013.12.28 09:50:00 - [8] - Quote Bunny Demon wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: 'SCR melts a heavy in one Oh, anyone telling you otherwise is a liar and/or is just bad. ' You obviously haven't properly used the scrambler rifle a lot then...let's look at the stats (I know everyone loves doing this ) With prof 5 and 2-3 complex damage mods the max damage is around 110 (it's very slightly higher but this is a nice number) The charge shot makes that around 400-500 damage (I don't know the exact multiplier but it's definitely around/in this range) The head shot multiplier for the SR is x1.5 I believe so that makes the damage 600-750 without shield/armour modifiers This may one shot a militia heavy if you're lucky but anything higher will likely have close to or more than 1000 ehp and proto heavies can have 1500 ehp and considering that most of that is armour, it will take about 3-4 charged shots to kill them and with the charge delay that will mean that they will have hid before the 4th shot in most cases and with the overheat you'll be lucky to not over heat after the 2-3 charge shot unless you allow time for cool down by which time the heavy will likely be gone. Tl;dr So in conclusion the SR would be OP without the overheat as on anything other than an amarr assault you can only follow a charge shot by about 4 rapid fire shots before over heating which definitely does not kill a mid-top end heavy All that and you do not mention the SCR OH glitch that people do in "LOOK HOW BADASS I AM" videos on youtube. I can name 4 prominent DUST youtubers that use the SCR OH glitch in atleast 1 of their videos. SCR is the only broken rifle, and the OH glitch is the reason.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1680	Posted - 2013.12.28 09:53:00 - [9] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Then why do you write so much ****? I write so much because I am used to writing paragraphs, not single sentences. I prefer to leave notes or "TL;DR"s at the end so people could skip over the intimidating text blocks, but sometimes I forget. I normally have a bit to say. On top of all this, I'm also a bit of a chatterbox. If I ever squad with you, prepare to see gibberish or nonsensical things pop up in the squad or team chat! "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara The Traitor, in the name of "freedom".
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 293	Posted - 2013.12.28 09:54:00 - [10] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Bunny Demon wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: 'SCR melts a heavy in one Oh, anyone telling you otherwise is a liar and/or is just bad. ' You obviously haven't properly used the scrambler rifle a lot then...let's look at the stats (I know everyone loves doing this ) With prof 5 and 2-3 complex damage mods the max damage is around 110 (it's very slightly higher but this is a nice number) The charge shot makes that around 400-500 damage (I don't know the exact multiplier but it's definitely around/in this range) The head shot multiplier for the SR is x1.5 I believe so that makes the damage 600-750 without shield/armour modifiers This may one shot a militia heavy if you're lucky but anything higher will likely have close to or more than 1000 ehp and proto heavies can have 1500 ehp and considering that most of that is armour, it will take about 3-4 charged shots to kill them and with the charge delay that will mean that they will have hid before the 4th shot in most cases and with the overheat you'll be lucky to not over heat after the 2-3 charge shot unless you allow time for cool down by which time the heavy will likely be gone. Tl;dr So in conclusion the SR would be OP without the overheat as on anything other than an amarr assault you can only follow a charge shot by about 4 rapid fire shots before over heating which definitely does not kill a mid-top end heavy All that and you do not mention the SCR OH glitch that people do in "LOOK HOW BADASS I AM" videos on youtube. I can name 4 prominent DUST youtubers that use the SCR OH glitch in atleast 1 of their videos. SCR is the only broken rifle, and the OH glitch is the reason. The overheat glitch (squat, sprint) has been fixed in 1.7 as far as I know. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.

Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 320	Posted - 2013.12.28 09:58:00 - [11] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Then why do you write so much ****? I write so much because I am used to writing paragraphs, not single sentences. I prefer to leave notes or "TL;DR"s at the end so people could skip over the intimidating text blocks, but sometimes I forget. I normally have a bit to say. On top of all this, I'm also a bit of a chatterbox. If I ever squad with you, prepare to see gibberish or nonsensical things pop up in the squad or team chat! I am nick named Chatterbox by a certain group of friends. Funny thing is they gave me that name when I first met them and didn't say much, then I got to know them and started talking. My buddy Big Al looked at me and said, shut the frack up Chatterbox, god we got pegged either way. People that know me on DUST can understand that.
Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 320	Posted - 2013.12.28 09:59:00 - [12] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: The overheat glitch (squat, sprint) has been fixed in 1.7 as far as I know. And you would be wrong.
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 294	Posted - 2013.12.28 10:02:00 - [13] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: The overheat glitch (squat, sprint) has been fixed in 1.7 as far as I know. And you would be wrong. No I am right, I am in a match right now trying it and it does not work. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 320	Posted - 2013.12.28 11:01:00 - [14] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: The overheat glitch (squat, sprint) has been fixed in 1.7 as far as I know. And you would be wrong. No I am right, I am in a match right now trying it and it does not work. You just suck then.
Wallaby1 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 62	Posted - 2013.12.28 11:06:00 - [15] - Quote agree 100% the tac rifles were my Favorite for a long time until they nerfed them to uselessness but now they cant really justify that with scrambler combat and rail rifles pretty mutch doing the same **** as the old TAC
Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 320	Posted - 2013.12.28 11:08:00 - [16] - Quote Wallaby1 wrote: agree 100% the tac rifles were my Favorite for a long time until they nerfed them to uselessness but now they cant really justify that with scrambler combat and rail rifles pretty mutch doing the same **** as the old TAC GIVE GALLENTE THIER MAGAZINE BACK!!! I'M GOING TO POST IT ON YOUTUBE!!
Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 320	Posted - 2013.12.28 11:41:00 - [17] - Quote I posted it !!!!
Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 321	Posted - 2013.12.28 12:26:00 - [18] - Quote Oh come on, you that **** was funny.
Akdhar Saif Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 122	Posted - 2013.12.28 12:41:00 - [19] - Quote Expect the same behaviour in all future expansions. Dust 514 is a Free to play game so CCP only make money from AUR items. New Weapons will always be OP as CCP want people to buy it with AUR or buy Boosters so they can skill into it quicker.
NomaDz 2K DUTY FR33 97	Posted - 2013.12.28 12:58:00 - [20] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Let's unnerf the TAC. Bring the magazine size back to what it was before the infamous TAC nerf because now that the RR and CR are out the 18 per mag nerf is a bit over the top. So unnerf the TAC and let it compete. I feel that is the only thing holding it back right now. Ranges are good, clip sizes are bad. Yep was actually thinking this today, 18 rounds is kind of poor, 30 or 40 rounds would be fine , more or less as it was before they nerfed the rof. DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!

the shadow dragon Paladen Night's 2	Posted - 2013.12.29 04:30:00 - [21] - Quote Akdhar Saif wrote: Expect the same behaviour in all future expansions. Dust 514 is a Free to play game so CCP only make money from AUR items. New Weapons will always be OP as CCP want people to buy it with AUR or buy Boosters so they can skill into it quicker. CCP makes you do nothing. it is your choice if you want to buy booster or aur whatever.
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command 904	Posted - 2013.12.29 04:33:00 - [22] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Let's unnerf the TAC. Bring the magazine size back to what it was before the infamous TAC nerf because now that the RR and CR are out the 18 per mag nerf is a bit over the top. So unnerf the TAC and let it compete. I feel that is the only thing holding it back right now. Ranges are good, clip sizes are bad. No it is balanced stop it Naa, give me back a 24 round magazine. 24 is a good number. You've got it backwards; 42 is the number. Lore-wise: Calamari are my preferred. Amarricans are my despised. Importantly: Frogs n' Brutes have all my stuff...
Sleepy Zan 0uter.Heaven 2929	Posted - 2013.12.29 04:34:00 - [23] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Let's unnerf the TAC. Bring the magazine size back to what it was before the infamous TAC nerf because now that the RR and CR are out the 18 per mag nerf is a bit over the top. So unnerf the TAC and let it compete. I feel that is the only thing holding it back right now. Ranges are good, clip sizes are bad. naww we have the rail rifle... interesting name choice btw They a legend, they call me an asshole, they call me a pioneer. Truth is..... ...I'm just sleepy.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1887	Posted - 2013.12.29 04:48:00 - [24] - Quote Can I have my Flaylocks back? Beer before Liquor, never sicker. Toothpaste before Orange Juice, you're dead.
Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 335	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:05:00 - [25] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Let's unnerf the TAC. Bring the magazine size back to what it was before the infamous TAC nerf because now that the RR and CR are out the 18 per mag nerf is a bit over the top. So unnerf the TAC and let it compete. I feel that is the only thing holding it back right now. Ranges are good, clip sizes are bad. naww we have the rail rifle... interesting name choice btw F it all we need the TAC with a bigger magazine back.


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