DUST Search - request: next update maps and game modes

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

A game mode composed of 3 stages. Winning 2 out of 3 means victory. If a team won the first 2 stages, then the 3rd stage should be skipped.

Stage 1 - Defense Relay: Neutral (no attacker/defender). Both teams fight over a defense relay which gives winning team control of the installations and outpost in the next stage. Holding the defense relay fills a bar, and the first team to fills their bar first wins the first stage. This is akin to Domination since there is only one neutral objective. There could also be variations where there more than one defense relay.

Stage 2 - Oupost Control: Attack/defend. Defense Relay (stage 1) winners become the defenders, and their clone reserves increase by 100 because of the clones stored in the outpost. Attackers must breach the outpost and must plant charges to destroy the bulk clone storage sites (and decrease defender clones by 100) to win; 5 sites each containing 25 clones for example. Defenders can win by depleting the attacker clones. Losing stage 2 for defenders means the extra 100 clones is destroyed.

Stage 3 - Ambush: Neutral. We all know how Ambush works. Ambush is the logical continuation of Outpost Control (stage 2); in Outpost Control both teams try to take out the other's clones, the attackers do it by blowing up clone storage sites, and the defenders do it by just killing the attackers. Once the clone storage sites are destroyed, it only makes sense that it would just be Ambush.

This specific order ensures that at least one battle is neutral, and at least one is attack/defend. This makes it more interesting IMO.

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

Starts with 2 teams, each team has an MCC. The MCCs are shooting each other.

Each team has 3 to 5 cloaked hidden missile defense arrays (MDA) that shoots down (preferably with a kickass laser) incoming missiles from the enemy MCC.

There are 3 neutral objectives. These objectives are massive scanner installations. If you hack 2/3 of the scanner installations, they will scan and locate 1 of enemy's MDAs.

Once your scanner installation locates and decloaks an MDA, the MDA will be marked on your team's HUD/map, and it will be destructible by hacking, or by damaging. Until it is scanned, MDAs will be cloaked and indestructible. There will be a few minutes for the "attackers" to destroy the spotted MDA before it cloaks again, and becomes indestructible.

After a spotted MDA is destroyed, control of the scanner installations reset back to being neutral.

The goal is to gain control of the scanner installations in order to locate and decloak your enemy's MDAs (missile defense arrays), and then destroy them. Destroying MDAs will allow more of your MCC's missiles to successfully hit your enemy's MCC, thus allowing your MCC to destroy the enemy one.

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Skywalker83 Random Gunz 33	Posted - 2013.12.28 01:59:00 - [1] - Quote I think the thing we need most now is more maps and more game modes. The concern seems to be mostly about tanks being OP or AR being OP and we keep going through this circle of nerfs and buffs of equipment with small additions of weapons and equipment that seem at the best alright for about two weeks. Then we are back to the same thing day after day . Ambush Skirmish and Domination on a handful of maps. I think we need at least two new game modes and five new maps for the next update. Forget a new gun or a new buff and nerf cycle. People are always going to complain about needing one of the two because this game has a lot of passionate players. Each patch after should add at least two new maps and one game mode until we reach a good level of both. I play games with crap graphics all of the time if the game play is good. Also instead of making the game seem realistic make it more fun to play. We can materialize out of something the size of the dinner plate so trying to balance stuff off of realism should be second to actual game play. CCP if you feel we need all of the weapons first just give us the racial bonuses and all of that with the same graphic of each item we have now. Then the images can be replaced later after we get some game modes and maps through the patches we get. Because everyone else is giving their input with tanks I will add mine to. I am not a tanker first of all. I am glad to see that tanks are working better and I don't think we should have a one man killing tanks fix. I only think the tanks top speed needs to be slowed down a little bit but let the tank keep its torque to climb over the terrain if thats possible. Only reason I say this is because if my squad is coordinated and trying to kill a tank ( I am talking several swarm launcher users and forge guns) The tank can roll up in the city blast away at anything it wants to and haul it out of the city when nearing death. Now I am not saying a tank should not be able to flee when it is in trouble but they should not be able to go anywhere without worrying about av. I think lowering the top speed will force the tanker to be a little bit more aware of what is going on instead of just going wherever they want to. Again I think the armor and shield hardening is fine along with everything else except the top speed. One thing is for sure we need tanks and dropship pilots to keep this from being like every other FPS game we have already played. I like the idea that if I am running on the ground I got to keep my eyes open for tanks and other vehicles. I also like the satisfaction of our squad switching over to av to take down a threat to our team by taking down a tank or tanks. I didn't want to turn this into another tanks suck thread or av needs buffed thread so please post t your comments about the game modes and stuff only.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 336	Posted - 2013.12.28 04:05:00 - [2] - Quote Holy Great Wall of Text. Who cares what some sniper has to say
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7645	Posted - 2013.12.28 04:43:00 - [3] - Quote Read it, I mostly agree. Add paragraph breaks to separate the topics you cover; having it all as one huge paragraph makes it unappealing to read. I think having complex, unique, and interesting quality modes is more important than having a lot of game modes. Sadly right now we have neither quantity nor quality in game modes. I do think filling out all the necessary racial variants need to remain a major priority; right now we have an incomplete set of dropsuits and weapons, yet we have to specialize into items that would not have been our first choice just to be competitive, and we likely won't get respecs. We need all racial heavy weapons, racial heavies, racial lights, etc. I do find game modes much more exciting and make the game much more fun then any particular gun or suit. I want an attack/defend mode similar to Skirmish 1.0 where the attackers must take down a set of preliminary objectives to advance to the main set of objectives. I want the PVE mode against rogue drones that CCP has been promising since 2012. I want variations with 2 opposing human teams fighting each other with an AI drone team thrown into the mix. I want these 2 modes that I thought of: Confrontation KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: A game mode composed of 3 stages. Winning 2 out of 3 means victory. If a team won the first 2 stages, then the 3rd stage should be skipped. Stage 1 - Defense Relay: Neutral (no attacker/defender). Both teams fight over a defense relay which gives winning team control of the installations and outpost in the next stage. Holding the defense relay fills a bar, and the first team to fills their bar first wins the first stage. This is akin to Domination since there is only one neutral objective. There could also be variations where there more than one defense relay. Stage 2 - Oupost Control: Attack/defend. Defense Relay (stage 1) winners become the defenders, and their clone reserves increase by 100 because of the clones stored in the outpost. Attackers must breach the outpost and must plant charges to destroy the bulk clone storage sites (and decrease defender clones by 100) to win; 5 sites each containing 25 clones for example. Defenders can win by depleting the attacker clones. Losing stage 2 for defenders means the extra 100 clones is destroyed. Stage 3 - Ambush: Neutral. We all know how Ambush works. Ambush is the logical continuation of Outpost Control (stage 2); in Outpost Control both teams try to take out the other's clones, the attackers do it by blowing up clone storage sites, and the defenders do it by just killing the attackers. Once the clone storage sites are destroyed, it only makes sense that it would just be Ambush. This specific order ensures that at least one battle is neutral, and at least one is attack/defend. This makes it more interesting IMO. Scan & Destroy KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Starts with 2 teams, each team has an MCC. The MCCs are shooting each other. Each team has 3 to 5 cloaked hidden missile defense arrays (MDA) that shoots down (preferably with a kickass laser) incoming missiles from the enemy MCC. There are 3 neutral objectives. These objectives are massive scanner installations. If you hack 2/3 of the scanner installations, they will scan and locate 1 of enemy's MDAs. Once your scanner installation locates and decloaks an MDA, the MDA will be marked on your team's HUD/map, and it will be destructible by hacking, or by damaging. Until it is scanned, MDAs will be cloaked and indestructible. There will be a few minutes for the "attackers" to destroy the spotted MDA before it cloaks again, and becomes indestructible. After a spotted MDA is destroyed, control of the scanner installations reset back to being neutral. The goal is to gain control of the scanner installations in order to locate and decloak your enemy's MDAs (missile defense arrays), and then destroy them. Destroying MDAs will allow more of your MCC's missiles to successfully hit your enemy's MCC, thus allowing your MCC to destroy the enemy one. I agree with the tank feedback about the speed, though I think large blasters are too effective against infantry despite not sacrificing effectiveness against other tanks; a blaster tank is better at AV than any infantry, and also better a killing infantry than infantry weapons. I don't understand the "racial bonus" thing. If you mean using place-holder models for racial weapons and dropsuits, keep in mind that its not just the models that are hard to develop, its the balancing and functional aspects as well. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+


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