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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.27 05:18:00 -
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... How anyone thinks matchmaking is ever going to be balanced in a system that pits a full squad of Nyain San (or similar corp) against a team of completely unsquadded randoms? Can any dev justify why there isn't a mode for solo players (predominantly being comprised of new players) can play against other solo players?
What lapse in judgment does it require to think there's any way to balance that?
For that matter, why is there often two full squads on one side of the game, and 16 randoms on the other? Is CCP so daft as to not consider squad composition the most critical part of matchmaking balance, which it is? Can it not just realize "DURRRR, I should put a squad on EACH side of the match"?
It really doesn't seem to be attempting to balance teams at all. It's not even trying. What the heck does matchmaking do anyways? It's certainly not actually making matches.
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
336
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Posted - 2013.12.27 06:03:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:... How anyone thinks matchmaking is ever going to be balanced in a system that pits a full squad of Nyain San (or similar corp) against a team of completely unsquadded randoms? Can any dev justify why there isn't a mode for solo players (predominantly being comprised of new players) can play against other solo players?
What lapse in judgment does it require to think there's any way to balance that?
For that matter, why is there often two full squads on one side of the game, and 16 randoms on the other? Is CCP so daft as to not consider squad composition the most critical part of matchmaking balance, which it is? Can it not just realize "DURRRR, I should put a squad on EACH side of the match"?
It really doesn't seem to be attempting to balance teams at all. It's not even trying. What the heck does matchmaking do anyways? It's certainly not actually making matches.
solution:grab a squad or take a 3.5mm injection of manup
"May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace" - Second Corinthians chapter one verse two.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
828
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Posted - 2013.12.27 06:07:00 -
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deepfried salad gilliam wrote:
solution:grab a squad or take a 3.5mm injection of manup
As cute as your response is, the reality is, full squads in pubs are making players leave the game long before they even figure out what the squad finder is, much less join a corp.
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Meee One
Clones Of The Damned
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.27 07:03:00 -
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I'm all up for this.
I wouldn't mind being a lone blue berry if i get to watch 2 full squads of 0uter.Heaven go up against 2 full squads of sver or Ancient Exiles.
This would add so much action if top players were constantly at each other. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1907
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Posted - 2013.12.27 07:10:00 -
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Cough Squad only and Solo only options, make it easy to figure them out too
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2013.12.27 16:30:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:deepfried salad gilliam wrote:
solution:grab a squad or take a 3.5mm injection of manup
As cute as your response is, the reality is, full squads in pubs are making players leave the game long before they even figure out what the squad finder is, much less join a corp.
new player experience needs improvement but eliminating squads is not the way to go.
and match making will never work right with a low player count
"May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace" - Second Corinthians chapter one verse two.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
828
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Posted - 2013.12.27 16:36:00 -
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deepfried salad gilliam wrote:new player experience needs improvement but eliminating squads is not the way to go.
and match making will never work right with a low player count
You cannot balance squads with solo players. And whether you like it or not, there's a massive number of players in this game playing solo matches.
In FacWar, squadded organized play is expected. But highsec/public contracts need to be squadless so players playing alone, and especially newer players, have room to play.
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ratamaq doc
Edge Regiment
292
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Posted - 2013.12.27 16:42:00 -
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Because as a lone mercenary, in New Eden where double crossing, back stabbing, and every man for him self is encouraged, team work is mandatory.
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2013.12.27 17:12:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:deepfried salad gilliam wrote:new player experience needs improvement but eliminating squads is not the way to go.
and match making will never work right with a low player count You cannot balance squads with solo players. And whether you like it or not, there's a massive number of players in this game playing solo matches. In FacWar, squadded organized play is expected. But highsec/public contracts need to be squadless so players playing alone, and especially newer players, have room to play.
well again not enough people to split match making and they definitly shouldnt remove squads
and for the record i hardly run squads and i suck
but im okay with that
"May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace" - Second Corinthians chapter one verse two.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
828
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Posted - 2013.12.27 17:51:00 -
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[quote=deepfried salad gilliam]well again not enough people to split match making and they definitly shouldnt remove squadsQuote:
Exactly, remove squads entirely from that game mode, it doesn't split matchmaking, but balances the game far better.
[quote=deepfried salad gilliam]and for the record i hardly run squads and i suck
but im okay with that
Good for you. Most people aren't, and their response is to quit the game.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1426
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Posted - 2013.12.27 17:53:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:... How anyone thinks matchmaking is ever going to be balanced in a system that pits a full squad of Nyain San (or similar corp) against a team of completely unsquadded randoms? Can any dev justify why there isn't a mode for solo players (predominantly being comprised of new players) can play against other solo players?
What lapse in judgment does it require to think there's any way to balance that?
For that matter, why is there often two full squads on one side of the game, and 16 randoms on the other? Is CCP so daft as to not consider squad composition the most critical part of matchmaking balance, which it is? Can it not just realize "DURRRR, I should put a squad on EACH side of the match"?
It really doesn't seem to be attempting to balance teams at all. It's not even trying. What the heck does matchmaking do anyways? It's certainly not actually making matches.
FW? There is not much to match when everybody is playing for Minmatar and Gallente.
Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
828
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Posted - 2013.12.27 18:06:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:FW? There is not much to match when everybody is playing for Minmatar and Gallente.
Removing squads from public contracts would push a lot of tryhard squads to playing FW, which would help improve the matchmaking pool for FacWar.
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Munin-Frey
Fish Spotters Inc.
36
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Posted - 2013.12.27 19:13:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:... How anyone thinks matchmaking is ever going to be balanced in a system that pits a full squad of Nyain San (or similar corp) against a team of completely unsquadded randoms? Can any dev justify why there isn't a mode for solo players (predominantly being comprised of new players) can play against other solo players?
What lapse in judgment does it require to think there's any way to balance that?
For that matter, why is there often two full squads on one side of the game, and 16 randoms on the other? Is CCP so daft as to not consider squad composition the most critical part of matchmaking balance, which it is? Can it not just realize "DURRRR, I should put a squad on EACH side of the match"?
It really doesn't seem to be attempting to balance teams at all. It's not even trying. What the heck does matchmaking do anyways? It's certainly not actually making matches.
Yes, I play solo always and before I even get off the warbarge I already know whether I will win or lose the match by which corps teams are on the opposing side.
Teams vs Solo = Teams Win
Teams vs Teams = Fun
Solo vs Solo = Fun |
FAKIR REDETTa
0uter.Heaven
56
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Posted - 2013.12.27 19:30:00 -
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Munin-Frey wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:... How anyone thinks matchmaking is ever going to be balanced in a system that pits a full squad of Nyain San (or similar corp) against a team of completely unsquadded randoms? Can any dev justify why there isn't a mode for solo players (predominantly being comprised of new players) can play against other solo players?
What lapse in judgment does it require to think there's any way to balance that?
For that matter, why is there often two full squads on one side of the game, and 16 randoms on the other? Is CCP so daft as to not consider squad composition the most critical part of matchmaking balance, which it is? Can it not just realize "DURRRR, I should put a squad on EACH side of the match"?
It really doesn't seem to be attempting to balance teams at all. It's not even trying. What the heck does matchmaking do anyways? It's certainly not actually making matches. Yes, I play solo always and before I even get off the warbarge I already know whether I will win or lose the match by which corps teams are on the opposing side. Teams vs Solo = Teams Win Teams vs Teams = Fun Solo vs Solo = Fun
Team vs me solo = team win but i can manage 30+ kill  |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
1137
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Posted - 2013.12.27 19:48:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:deepfried salad gilliam wrote:new player experience needs improvement but eliminating squads is not the way to go.
and match making will never work right with a low player count You cannot balance squads with solo players. And whether you like it or not, there's a massive number of players in this game playing solo matches. In FacWar, squadded organized play is expected. But highsec/public contracts need to be squadless so players playing alone, and especially newer players, have room to play.
No pubs need to allow for squads too since you need the isk from pubs to fund your FW habit.
Fun > Realism
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1431
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Posted - 2013.12.27 21:24:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:FW? There is not much to match when everybody is playing for Minmatar and Gallente. Removing squads from public contracts would push a lot of tryhard squads to playing FW, which would help improve the matchmaking pool for FacWar.
Then you wouldn't find a match at all I guess. Atm the game has to wait until it found enough terribads to fight for Amarr / Caldari.
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