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negative49er
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.26 01:56:00 -
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Remember a few build ago when lav can just murder taxi and everyone went proto av, but because of everyone getting proto av tanks became very weak now CCP ideas was to reduce the cost and increase HAV ehp as well as lowering av dmg now the only to effectively kill a mlt tank is with a proto forge and when everyone get a forge gun the process begin again.
Dedicated Shotgun Scout
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Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
227
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Posted - 2013.12.26 03:10:00 -
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tanks are not the only things that can kill tanks.
the balance is perfect, quit asking for nerfs n buffs
Best game with a Python:
33kills 1 death (1.6)
24kills 1 death (1.7)
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
287
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Posted - 2013.12.26 03:18:00 -
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Yeah, AV grenades or swarms can kill a tank, if they're proto and you have nanohvies, and the tank doesn't move, attack, or activate hardeners. |
Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.26 04:05:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:Yeah, AV grenades or swarms can kill a tank, if 3+ players attack at once, they're proto and have nanohvies, and the tank doesn't move, attack, or activate hardeners.
Taking down a tank requires teamwork
Best game with a Python:
33kills 1 death (1.6)
24kills 1 death (1.7)
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
287
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Posted - 2013.12.26 04:27:00 -
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Xaviah Reaper wrote:TheEnd762 wrote:Yeah, AV grenades or swarms can kill a tank, if 3+ players attack at once, they're proto and have nanohvies, and the tank doesn't move, attack, or activate hardeners. Taking down a tank requires teamwork
No, it requires teamwork and a miracle. |
The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.12.26 04:37:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:Xaviah Reaper wrote:TheEnd762 wrote:Yeah, AV grenades or swarms can kill a tank, if 3+ players attack at once, they're proto and have nanohvies, and the tank doesn't move, attack, or activate hardeners. Taking down a tank requires teamwork No, it requires teamwork and a miracle.
Not true at all.
First, stop thinking that fire and forget AV should be a primary choice. It shouldn't.
Instead, look at using either a FG or PLC for AV work. The PLC does need a buff, so I would recommend a FG. You can jam one into a MLT heavy frame, and with some smarts can wreck tanks.
Try harder instead of just saying it is hopeless.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.26 04:46:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Not true at all.
First, stop thinking that fire and forget AV should be a primary choice. It shouldn't.
Instead, look at using either a FG or PLC for AV work. The PLC does need a buff, so I would recommend a FG. You can jam one into a MLT heavy frame, and with some smarts can wreck tanks.
Try harder instead of just saying it is hopeless.
Swarms have never been my AV of choice for taking on tanks. They used to be for dropships, but with the range nerf they're useless for that.
I do have a FG fit that I pull out occasionally, but my AV of choice used to be AV grenades, which have been reduced to water balloons now. Even if I do manage to land all 3 proto AV grenades on a tank without it activating it's hardeners, it's not going to kill it, and it'll just speed away to heal. Same goes for the FG. You get maybe one hit before hardeners are turned on, maybe two hits before it speeds to the other side of the map to heal and wait for the cooldown to cycle. |
MRBH1997
Knights Of Ender
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.26 08:34:00 -
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The tanks that are hard to kill is because they are a smart tanker or you are just bad at AV. I find adv AV of all types hurtful to my tank without hardeners and worry if they catch me without them. One person usually can't take out a tank on their own if they can't logically attack it. You can't just charge a tank single handedly and expect to kill it. Killing tanks actually requires either teamwork or using a brain now which is how it's supposed to be.
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Tonka Legacy
THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED
Dark Taboo
9
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Posted - 2013.12.26 08:56:00 -
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When will people be happy. First tanks are to easy to destroy so they complained, now they are too hard to destroy so they still complain. Don't expect it to become perfect. sure tanks now own 90% of battles, stay out of their way I guess, even if it means staying away from the objectives...what the hell am I saying? Give tanks hell. Plant prox mines on the average route tanks use to escape, suicide bomb into a tank with an explosive filled LAV, plant remote explosives on it from behind, get a gang of forge gunners in a tank, stalk the other tank until his mods are down, have two heavys jump out and rain hell on the tank while your tank is helping blow the damn thing up. This is Legacys tips on how to lose lots of dropsuits. stay tuned. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
397
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Posted - 2013.12.26 10:46:00 -
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Tonka Legacy wrote:When will people be happy. First tanks are to easy to destroy so they complained, now they are too hard to destroy so they still complain. Don't expect it to become perfect. sure tanks now own 90% of battles, stay out of their way I guess, even if it means staying away from the objectives...what the hell am I saying? Give tanks hell. Plant prox mines on the average route tanks use to escape, suicide bomb into a tank with an explosive filled LAV, plant remote explosives on it from behind, get a gang of forge gunners in a tank, stalk the other tank until his mods are down, have two heavys jump out and rain hell on the tank while your tank is helping blow the damn thing up. This is Legacys tips on how to lose lots of dropsuits. stay tuned.
All you suggestions work...on stupid tankers. Tankers with half a brain are REALLY hard to kill with infantry and need a team effort of doing so. This creates an imbalance in teamsetups that lead to the current situation more tank = win (unless your team and or your tankers totally suck).
This is not balanced although tankers will say otherwise but remember the old days of the prenerfed tac? All the Tac users said the tac was fine although it was obvious how op it was.
CCP should either revert the AV nerf or the vehicle buff to some degree and from there they should start with small adjustments so AV and Vehicles can fullfill their Role. Currently onl tanks can truly fullfill their role AV can not. |
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Ghermard-ol Dizeriois
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2013.12.26 13:58:00 -
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Taking down a MLT tank does not require a miracle, but if you're fighting a tank with top-tier gear you'll need more than 1 miracle to destroy it.
If you're an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
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