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Meee One
Clones Of The Damned
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.24 08:30:00 -
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REs are a one hit kill guaranteed in infantry vs infantry battles.
Why not have something that 1 shots vehicles?
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
875
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Posted - 2013.12.24 08:38:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Why not have something that 1 shots vehicles?
Too many reasons to count.
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage looks nicer.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
182
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Posted - 2013.12.24 08:44:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Meee One wrote:Why not have something that 1 shots vehicles? Too many reasons to count.
i consider noobs who farm RE kills of hack zone regardless of suit to be op, OH no skill weapon
recuruit link
5 to 11 mil isk per 100k recuruit
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1428
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Posted - 2013.12.24 09:38:00 -
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Meee One wrote:REs are a one hit kill guaranteed in infantry vs infantry battles.
Why not have something that 1 shots vehicles?
Goddammit no.
This coming from a dedicated AV gunner.
No. No Finger of God OHK weapons on tanks damn you.
if this happens tanks go away and never come back instead of being a buncha OP chuckleheads.
I do not want to see HAVs marginalized out of the game, nor do I want to see them being THE dominant force in the game. |
Shadow Archeus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
184
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Posted - 2013.12.24 11:01:00 -
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They should make friendly REs detonate when shot by friendly fire if they are on a hostile vehicle......have a scout or logi load it up with remotes and have a forge hit it.......KABOOOOOOM...dead tank
And it must give the forge credit in the kill feed |
Stinker Butt
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.24 14:37:00 -
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On 1.6 and before I could one hit kill a poorly built militia tank with a breach forge gun. It didn't happen often, but when it did it was very gratifying. Alas, my breach forge has been placed on the shelf alongside the flaylock pistol and laser rifle.
The problem is that people need a longer time to kill to actually feel that they have some importance and gives them a chance to actually use the mods that they have worked so hard to equip. Tankers want this as much as anyone else. The irony is that they don't feel the rules should apply to them when they are on the offensive. So they think it's perfectly normal that they can one hit kill almost everything, and anything left is usually dead in less than a second. They think we should stop "whining," and just "adapt." It's not the tankers fault though, it's a problem with human nature.
Please give tanks some balance
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Cosgar
ParagonX
9012
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Posted - 2013.12.24 15:30:00 -
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Easy to kill vehicles = no more vehicles = wasted SP on AV. Now AV is a viable role to run 24/7 short of getting WP for damaging vehicles, more anti-shield AV and the plasma cannon having an AV identity. If you can OHK vehicles, all that goes away.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Jooki Chewaka
Stalking Wolfpack
62
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Posted - 2013.12.24 15:54:00 -
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Meee One wrote:REs are a one hit kill guaranteed in infantry vs infantry battles.
Why not have something that 1 shots vehicles?
Did you fall from the doctor's arms when you born?
Oh sorry, that was rude, hmmm, did you lack oxygen when you born?
Oh man, seriously I'm trying, but i cannot find any other way of expressing how amazingly stupid your question is, did you at least use brain when you write that? Oh, yeah, that does make sense, 404 Not Found.
See you from orbit
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Takron Nistrom
Tinfoil Hatz
152
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:59:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:Meee One wrote:Why not have something that 1 shots vehicles? Too many reasons to count. i consider noobs who farm RE kills of hack zone regardless of suit to be op, OH no skill weapon
You can see the RE on the map, if you are to dumb to shoot it before you approach, you deserve to visit the clone farm.
GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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T'orq
DUST University
Ivy League
69
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Posted - 2013.12.24 17:56:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:Meee One wrote:Why not have something that 1 shots vehicles? Too many reasons to count. i consider noobs who farm RE kills of hack zone regardless of suit to be op, OH no skill weapon
I don't agree I takes some practice to sneak up on enemy and kill them with an RE and courage to run into a group and throw one down before you die to clear them out for your team to hack it
Thanjac-
Proud Member of Commando 6
Commando Lives
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Dustbunny Durrr
ReD or DeaD
13
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Posted - 2013.12.24 18:03:00 -
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Meee One wrote:REs are a one hit kill guaranteed in infantry vs infantry battles.
Why not have something that 1 shots vehicles?
This coming from a pro-AV crowd person: No. As much as I hate the OP nature of tanks as they are now, this is simply way too drastic. AV needs a boost, perhaps to the pre-1.7 level, perhaps a bit less, but this would marginalize tanks. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
326
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Posted - 2013.12.24 18:14:00 -
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Better solution
Lower ehp of tanks with actives off
extend both cool down and active durations
Still viable with mods
Screwed when cooldowns on
"May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace" - Second Corinthians chapter one verse two.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1436
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Posted - 2013.12.24 21:55:00 -
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I must reiterate, NO!
I want CCP to make AV versus tanks to be a godawful fight that is anyone's game potentially based on skill.
I do not want easy mode.
I also do not want supercaps 2.0 which is what tanks seem to be ATM. |
Kharga Lum
Xeno Labs Security
181
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Posted - 2013.12.24 22:16:00 -
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Stinker Butt wrote:On 1.6 and before I could one hit kill a poorly built militia tank with a breach forge gun. It didn't happen often, but when it did it was very gratifying. Alas, my breach forge has been placed on the shelf alongside the flaylock pistol and laser rifle.
The problem is that people need a longer time to kill to actually feel that they have some importance and gives them a chance to actually use the mods that they have worked so hard to equip. Tankers want this as much as anyone else. The irony is that they don't feel the rules should apply to them when they are on the offensive. So they think it's perfectly normal that they can one hit kill almost everything, and anything left is usually dead in less than a second. They think we should stop "whining," and just "adapt." It's not the tankers fault though, it's a problem with human nature.
I stopped using my tank alt in this build. It became very boring. Proto breach forge with lvl 5 spec and 3 complex damage mods will bring a tank to within an inch of is life. If the tank starts looking for me, it dies. If it runs then I try again when it comes back.
My heavy alt with a breach and some random commando with a swarm were able to kill enough tanks that they stopped bringing them in. Also, we had enough firepower and HP to deal with any lone reds who came after us.
Killing tanks is easy if you alpha them. Fire a swarm and release your breach forge shot right before the swarm hits = dead tank. It takes 0.5-2 second for the tanker to activate one or all hardeners. Most of them tend to just sit there while this is happening. If they have low enough HP you can charge and fire a second breach shot. Combined with any other form of AV it'll work.
Breach Forge Gun, bring a friend.
What worries me is that these are militia and basic tanks. |
Stinker Butt
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
244
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Posted - 2013.12.25 06:21:00 -
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Kharga Lum wrote:I stopped using my tank alt in this build. It became very boring. Proto breach forge with lvl 5 spec and 3 complex damage mods will bring a tank to within an inch of is life. If the tank starts looking for me, it dies. If it runs then I try again when it comes back.
My heavy alt with a breach and some random commando with a swarm were able to kill enough tanks that they stopped bringing them in. Also, we had enough firepower and HP to deal with any lone reds who came after us.
Killing tanks is easy if you alpha them. Fire a swarm and release your breach forge shot right before the swarm hits = dead tank. It takes 0.5-2 second for the tanker to activate one or all hardeners. Most of them tend to just sit there while this is happening. If they have low enough HP you can charge and fire a second breach shot. Combined with any other form of AV it'll work.
Breach Forge Gun, bring a friend.
What worries me is that these are militia and basic tanks.
I'm somewhat skeptical about your post. In part because you're running 3 complex damage mods, and any reasonable heavy knows that's not possible. I also wonder if you're really wobbling around the map waiting for the tanks to find you. I guess it's possible, but I'm sure you're pretty weak against any infantry you come across in the meantime. Maybe you just rock with a sidearm. It's possible, but I don't think it's as easy as you make it out to be. And most will probably not be successful doing it.
Please give tanks some balance
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