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Grease Spillett
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
304
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Posted - 2013.12.23 11:10:00 -
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We won 9 times in a row. Sorry we were that hard to deal with. A few of us are fighting for Caldari now. Maybe all the frame spray will start coming from the gallente now. 
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
842
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Posted - 2013.12.23 11:13:00 -
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Sweet!
I bet there'll be posts about how bad the Gallente have it now, just like some of the Minmatards have been complaining about how hard to win it is...
The starmap is calling you a liar.
PRO tanker and proud.
Lentarr Legionary.
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Grease Spillett
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
304
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Posted - 2013.12.23 11:18:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Sweet!
I bet there'll be posts about how bad the Gallente have it now, just like some of the Minmatards have been complaining about how hard to win it is...
The starmap is calling you a liar.
lol probably so. I think our work was undone 2 hours ago.
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
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Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
506
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Posted - 2013.12.23 11:38:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Sweet!
I bet there'll be posts about how bad the Gallente have it now, just like some of the Minmatards have been complaining about how hard to win it is...
The starmap is calling you a liar.
I think you may need something like 20 full proto squads playing 24/7 for at least a whole week winning all their games and maybe... just maybe... Gallente might not hold 100% after that. It's a long shot but hey... FW is not broken or anything, right?
em ta kool t'nod
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Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
51
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Posted - 2013.12.23 12:09:00 -
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I was actually in some of these victory games on the Caldari side. It was a nice change of pace. I finally passed into Lvl 3 standings.
I also laughed my ass off as I noticed how many Gallente were leaving these battles. Poor little froggies. They didn't like the challenge, since they are so used to proto stomping random noobs. |
ZiwZih
Seraphim Initiative..
304
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Posted - 2013.12.23 12:19:00 -
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Confirming CalFW is new black.
Every Gallente holding to himself should play for Caldari. It's xmas time, it's HC mode, it'll help keeping Gal LPs worth when market hits us. |
Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
303
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Posted - 2013.12.23 12:51:00 -
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Are you saying your corp (AE) is now fighting for caldari FW?
The only two that I see consistently are science for death and the beercase one... there were others in that giant thread listing which corps fought which side that blatantly did not fight for the caldari (Maphia Clan comes to mind), once they realised it wasn't the usual walkover... |
KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
528
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Posted - 2013.12.23 13:14:00 -
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It is possible to sway the balance. We did it during the event in October.
"Because beer, that's why."
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Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
506
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Posted - 2013.12.23 13:20:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:It is possible to sway the balance. We did it during the event in October.
Yes, it is possible. But what happened during the event? It went 100% to Caldari/Amarr.
What this means is that in this system there's no middle ground, it always makes it so one side continuously reaches closer to 100%. The only way to break that is through a massive displacement of people fighting for the dominating side to start fighting for the losing side but what it produces is the same thing that we'd be trying to undo.
The way battles are attributed needs to be changed. Scotty is programed to look for districts to attack. This needs to stop, it only leads to a faction that has none or close to no districts instanly lose whatever concertated effort they make to fight back.
em ta kool t'nod
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
6608
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Posted - 2013.12.23 13:31:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:It is possible to sway the balance. We did it during the event in October.
Yes, it is possible. But what happened during the event? It went 100% to Caldari/Amarr. What this means is that in this system there's no middle ground, it always makes it so one side continuously reaches closer to 100%. The only way to break that is through a massive displacement of people fighting for the dominating side to start fighting for the losing side but what it produces is the same thing that we'd be trying to undo. The way battles are attributed needs to be changed. Scotty is programed to look for districts to attack. This needs to stop, it only leads to a faction that has none or close to no districts instanly lose whatever concertated effort they make to fight back.
Well...
It went 100% to Caldari/Amarr because they were the only people offering decent rewards.
Level 6 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
912
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Posted - 2013.12.23 13:33:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:It is possible to sway the balance. We did it during the event in October.
Yes, it is possible. But what happened during the event? It went 100% to Caldari/Amarr. What this means is that in this system there's no middle ground, it always makes it so one side continuously reaches closer to 100%. The only way to break that is through a massive displacement of people fighting for the dominating side to start fighting for the losing side but what it produces is the same thing that we'd be trying to undo. The way battles are attributed needs to be changed. Scotty is programed to look for districts to attack. This needs to stop, it only leads to a faction that has none or close to no districts instanly lose whatever concertated effort they make to fight back.
Correction:
The intended mechanic for FW battles nowadays is:
Scotty looks for Eve militia members completing their plexes in contested systems. If there would be none, there would be no battles AFAIK
Feeling the scanner is too simple and off balance?
The fix:
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ROMULUS H3X
research lab
10
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Posted - 2013.12.23 13:41:00 -
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I would fight for the Caldari if they agree to selling me Loyalty Point Forge Guns......... untill then......no thanks |
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
507
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Posted - 2013.12.23 13:44:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Yagihige wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:It is possible to sway the balance. We did it during the event in October.
Yes, it is possible. But what happened during the event? It went 100% to Caldari/Amarr. What this means is that in this system there's no middle ground, it always makes it so one side continuously reaches closer to 100%. The only way to break that is through a massive displacement of people fighting for the dominating side to start fighting for the losing side but what it produces is the same thing that we'd be trying to undo. The way battles are attributed needs to be changed. Scotty is programed to look for districts to attack. This needs to stop, it only leads to a faction that has none or close to no districts instanly lose whatever concertated effort they make to fight back. Well... It went 100% to Caldari/Amarr because they were the only people offering decent rewards.
And how does that justify it? I never change my allegiance during the event and i managed to still get rewards for Minmatar. I probably didn't win over 50% of my battles for Gallente but i'm sure i won a decent amount. But when factions show up at 100% while you can get a few proto squads and win the vast majority of your games (Nyain San did that for Amarr this weekend) and your efforts meant zero, it's pretty hard to justify this system.
Back in that event or now, i'm pretty sure the reigning factions are not winning 100% of their battles. But that's what ends up being shown in the starmap. CCP Nullarbor said that when a faction wins over 50% of the battles, they'll conquer territory back. Here lies the issue. There are only 2 possible scenarios in FW.
Scenario 1: Both factions win exactly the same amount of games: 50%-50%. FW starmap control goes back and forth as battles are fought.
Scenario 2: One faction wins 51% of their matches. Controls 100% of the territory. THIS IS THE PROBLEM!
em ta kool t'nod
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
664
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Posted - 2013.12.23 13:49:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:We won 9 times in a row. Sorry we were that hard to deal with. A few of us are fighting for Caldari now. Maybe all the frame spray will start coming from the gallente now.
Get in line... We went Caldari first... So we get the Cool Award lol |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3317
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Posted - 2013.12.23 14:50:00 -
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I quit fighting for the caldari when I got auto-booted for using REs, and I didn't want to see what that did to my rank.
However, I still want to fight for them since caldari vehicles are worth getting.
We used to have a time machine
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
1349
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Posted - 2013.12.23 23:26:00 -
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Justicar Karnellia wrote:Are you saying your corp (AE) is now fighting for caldari FW?
The only two that I see consistently are science for death and the beercase one... there were others in that giant thread listing which corps fought which side that blatantly did not fight for the caldari (Maphia Clan comes to mind), once they realised it wasn't the usual walkover...
We actually stopped playing FW at all: some of us still fight, but as you may imagine, lag and bad framerate is killing EU players (or there's a bad issue with italian connections...) unless it's EU vs EU.
Tank 514.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2353
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Posted - 2013.12.23 23:38:00 -
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The only problem is the wide range of corps fighting for the Gallente and Minmatar. There are a few decent corps fighting for the Caldari but they can't be there every match, so I have to deal with dumbass blueberries :/
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
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Dimmu Borgir II
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
212
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Posted - 2013.12.23 23:59:00 -
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They need to make it that you can only fight for your race or allies, based on either your dropsuits or your character race... that'd make it so much better and would stop people just playing for the equipment they want from LP!
Blue is good, red is bad, orange you glad you're not red?
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xPr3d4t0rz WSG
Wraith Shadow Guards
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
5
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Posted - 2013.12.24 00:13:00 -
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WSG won 4 in a row for in a row for caldari last night. We even won a game where the gal fed hard orbital support.
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xPr3d4t0rz WSG
Wraith Shadow Guards
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
5
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Posted - 2013.12.24 00:14:00 -
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Dimmu Borgir II wrote:They need to make it that you can only fight for your race or allies, based on either your dropsuits or your character race... that'd make it so much better and would stop people just playing for the equipment they want from LP!
Um you need to brush up on your eve lore.
Capsuleers(eve pilots) fight for whomever the hell they want. We use the same tech on the ground, why should we be any different |
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
456
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Posted - 2013.12.24 00:44:00 -
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o7 to the OP. You guys (you in particular) wrecked me last night, but i coulda swore you were amarr then? |
Grease Spillett
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
312
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Posted - 2013.12.24 04:35:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:o7 to the OP. You guys (you in particular) wrecked me last night, but i coulda swore you were amarr then?
Maybe we play a little of everything.
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1341
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Posted - 2013.12.24 04:52:00 -
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Justicar Karnellia wrote:Are you saying your corp (AE) is now fighting for caldari FW?
The only two that I see consistently are science for death and the beercase one... there were others in that giant thread listing which corps fought which side that blatantly did not fight for the caldari (Maphia Clan comes to mind), once they realised it wasn't the usual walkover...
no i refuse to fight for caldari unless given 100 mil isk. 
Main - BobThe843CakeMan
Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details.
Prices are based on who ur facing and how i feel.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
897
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Posted - 2013.12.24 04:59:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Justicar Karnellia wrote:Are you saying your corp (AE) is now fighting for caldari FW?
The only two that I see consistently are science for death and the beercase one... there were others in that giant thread listing which corps fought which side that blatantly did not fight for the caldari (Maphia Clan comes to mind), once they realised it wasn't the usual walkover... no i refuse to fight for caldari unless given 100 mil isk. Because you're just a scrubby stat padder.
CALDARI not so MASTER RACE
Forum Warrior Level: 10
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1348
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Posted - 2013.12.24 12:59:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Justicar Karnellia wrote:Are you saying your corp (AE) is now fighting for caldari FW?
The only two that I see consistently are science for death and the beercase one... there were others in that giant thread listing which corps fought which side that blatantly did not fight for the caldari (Maphia Clan comes to mind), once they realised it wasn't the usual walkover... no i refuse to fight for caldari unless given 100 mil isk. Because you're just a scrubby stat padder.
no i play for amarr.
unless u think they are good. 
Main - BobThe843CakeMan
Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details.
Prices are based on who ur facing and how i feel.
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Sgt Kirk
Kirk Industries
3822
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Posted - 2013.12.24 13:58:00 -
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Didn't even know Ancient Exiles fought for Gallente. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4972
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Posted - 2013.12.24 14:00:00 -
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I have one request.
Say on the forums when you're bringing proto suit squads, so I can bring my own, and we will have lovely battles 
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Grease Spillett
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
313
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Posted - 2013.12.24 15:09:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Didn't even know Ancient Exiles fought for Gallente.
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
2
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Posted - 2013.12.24 15:22:00 -
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xPr3d4t0rz WSG wrote:Dimmu Borgir II wrote:They need to make it that you can only fight for your race or allies, based on either your dropsuits or your character race... that'd make it so much better and would stop people just playing for the equipment they want from LP! Um you need to brush up on your eve lore. Capsuleers(eve pilots) fight for whomever the hell they want. We use the same tech on the ground, why should we be any different
Eve Lore?
The Gallente took my home world, I would kill every Gallente that i could and anyone that fought alongside of them. |
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