There are other ways on fixing protostomping and tanking is ruining the fun for the ones that wanna play a first person shooter, not a second person tanker u see?

If this is really the solution CCP found on fighting protostomping back... god help us all, i'll just unsubscrive my couple of eve accounts, uninstall dust from the ps and go play something else.

TL;DR: "CCP, please do not take away my speedy, inexpensive, nearly invincible mobile murder fortress."

Yes, fix proto-stomping with tank-stomping. The logic is flawless.

I've got nothing against Militia vehicles being cheap. After all, that's the part of the idea behind Miltia gear: something cheap with no prerequisite skills required for use. But when a Militia tank with no SP investment can easily escape Prototype AV (which can cost two-three times as much as a Militia tank), then something is wrong.

I've got nothing against Militia vehicles being cheap. After all, that's the part of the idea behind Miltia gear: something cheap with no prerequisite skills required for use. But when a Militia tank with no SP investment can easily escape Prototype AV (which can cost two-three times as much as a Militia tank), then something is wrong.

Militia gear should be fuctional but, without passive skill bonuses to back it up, inferior to higher level gear. But this template is a bit difficult to apply at the moment because of the lack of variety in vehicles. So for now I'd make a slight buff to AV and vehicle passive skill bonuses (so people actualy skilled in vehicles can be a threat on the field while still making money) and a slight nerf to Militia HAVs and vehicle modules.

Notice I said slight adjustments, not the rather ham-handed approach they used for the new build.

How would you suggest they stop Proto stomping?

Jooki do you uave a better solution? Does anyone? It may not be pretty but Dust is brutal

i actually havnt noticed many pubstomps so far. allot of the stomping seems to be toned downed due to our new tanks.

i like the fact my decently fitted mlt tank can actually support my time by helping to push objectives and combat enemy tanks at the same time.

although i think hardeners could be given a side effect. one that immobilizes when activated.

Jooki do you uave a better solution? Does anyone? It may not be pretty but Dust is brutal

are you kidding me? most battles i fight are a tank spam on one side or the other. ( i play skirmish not FW)

the tanks can all be red lining your team on the other side of the map, when you start hacking within 30 seconds you have 3 tanks rolling around the objective with active scanners.

i am sure as a tanker it does feel like your contributing to your team.......but if you cannot see that

a) the tank is too fast
b) active scanners on tanks make things far to easy
c) tanks are too hard to kill with anything bar turrets or tanks.

then you deceive yourself.

I love the new tanks. I love what they've done to the battlefield and I think it's healthy for this game that anyone can hop in a cheap militia tank and potentially do some damage. This is probably the best thing CCP has done for the NPE so far.

Everyone needs to calm down and let vehicles really sink in before panicking. Let's take the time to learn how AV and vehicles interact before crying that the system is broken. You can't combat vehicles with AV like you could in 1.6 but AV is a far cry from being broken.

Yeah, I've got not one but a few ideas but, I don't thing this thread here is about protostomping aint it?

I don't believe you.

What about tiericide? It would get rid of the proto issue entirely. I think that we should lobby stronger to get CCP to front up with it.

Tiercide would do absolutely no such thing. Stop asking for it.

Dust is finally more of a war ground. Tanks create a tidal effect of push and pull versus one proto side just stomping the other, anf it's great. By lessening tank costs, you have made tanks more commonplace, and so more people will use them If you did the same with Assault Dropships, I would kiss you devs. Everyone, it is true that the tanks are a little fast, and CCP that is why I said don't really touch them Lower the speed a little slightly, hotpatch it weekly until we love it mostly. But don't change anything else. It shouls not be one Dust mercy can take on a whole team of tanks. Think guys, the reason tanks are affordable is because they dont want Protoatomping! They want battles. Tanks scare Ptotis, and so you guys will now get tanks out to fight back. Stubborn you can't go 76-3 with an Imperial SR, cry me a river. This is New Efen, land where fair is foul and foul is fair. This is 1.7, where Dust is almost there. The Heavy Hotfix is in, now just so suits, scout love, gradually change the tank speed, Fix Scotty, and you can advance. Do not change the tank cost, Better tanks will simply cost more or having specific Modules, but this is a hell of an update and I take off my helmet to all of you. Now if you'll excuse me, I must put it back on, for war beacons. Repeat, Don't change the Tanks!

Love and respect, 501st
Apologies for the typos, my Phone is not the most adept at posting.

Here, play ambush while facing 5-6 enemy tanks then let me know if CCP shouldn't hit tanks.

No CCP should hit tanks in terms of expenses. I remember before 1.7 that if I blew up your tank it cost you a pretty penny (inbetween 300k-1mil ISK depending). Now since tanks are inexpensive, people will just keep spamming tanks in left and right without their pocketbooks going empty.

So, yes tanks need to be changed to where tankers would think twice before calling in another tank if their first one was blown up.