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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:17:00 -
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Lost 4 tanks in a match (around 2 million ISK you scrubs).
Nerf Militia Tanks tag teaming me with damage mods, THEY JUST KEEP COMING, the waves sir, the waves, they were endless, just tanks and tanks and tanks, I tried to compete but no AVers wanted to help, they just ran assault rifles and left me to deal with all of them. Q_Q
As a note, AV is still appreciated and hurts like a biaaatch, aslong as you're not running **** fits, ya'll could've been mauling these endless militia tanks with me and not costing me a shitton of ISK, thanks.
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
1996
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:20:00 -
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Ummmmm.......now even the tankers hate tank spam....good
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
6384
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:28:00 -
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Run AV?
The swarm launcher with laughable range, small clips, and barely any damage? The forge gun on the gimped heavy suit with a long charge time and meh damage? The plasma cannon which is simply awful? The AV grenades which are almost completely ineffective? The remote explosives which get you banned from FW or are generally quite situational?
Yeah, you can deal with the tank spam on your own.
Level 6 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
4987
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:31:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Ummmmm.......now even the tankers hate tank spam....good
I love it.
My new Tank destruction record just jumped from 5 in a single match (replicated 5-6 times now) to 9 plus one assist.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
986
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:32:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Lost 4 tanks in a match (around 2 million ISK you scrubs).
Nerf Militia Tanks tag teaming me with damage mods, THEY JUST KEEP COMING, the waves sir, the waves, they were endless, just tanks and tanks and tanks, I tried to compete but no AVers wanted to help, they just ran assault rifles and left me to deal with all of them. Q_Q
As a note, AV is still appreciated and hurts like a biaaatch, aslong as you're not running **** fits, ya'll could've been mauling these endless militia tanks with me and not costing me a shitton of ISK, thanks.
Run AV in 1.7??
Hell no!!
Deleted 1.7
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Jumps into escape pod!
Selected destination Planet PS4.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
9067
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:33:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Ummmmm.......now even the tankers hate tank spam....good I love it. My new Tank destruction record just jumped from 5 in a single match (replicated 5-6 times now) to 9 plus one assist. And the fact that you don't see 5-9+ tanks on average as a sign of something wrong, then.....I just....
smh
Vids / O7
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Our Deepest Regret
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
396
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:34:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Lost 4 tanks in a match (around 2 million ISK you scrubs).
Nerf Militia Tanks tag teaming me with damage mods, THEY JUST KEEP COMING, the waves sir, the waves, they were endless, just tanks and tanks and tanks, I tried to compete but no AVers wanted to help, they just ran assault rifles and left me to deal with all of them. Q_Q
As a note, AV is still appreciated and hurts like a biaaatch, aslong as you're not running **** fits, ya'll could've been mauling these endless militia tanks with me and not costing me a shitton of ISK, thanks.
Oh, I hate their mindless zerging. I'd rather get jihad jeeped than blown up by a Sica. It's far less insulting. |
Ld Collins
The Phalanx Inc
99
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:34:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Lost 4 tanks in a match (around 2 million ISK you scrubs).
Nerf Militia Tanks tag teaming me with damage mods, THEY JUST KEEP COMING, the waves sir, the waves, they were endless, just tanks and tanks and tanks, I tried to compete but no AVers wanted to help, they just ran assault rifles and left me to deal with all of them. Q_Q
As a note, AV is still appreciated and hurts like a biaaatch, aslong as you're not running **** fits, ya'll could've been mauling these endless militia tanks with me and not costing me a shitton of ISK, thanks. hey Jason I know things are pretty messed up because Avers quit but the only fix is to become an AVer yourself. That's what I've chosen to do. I specialized fully into explosives and when I get matches like your I just spend my time blowing them up. It's time to switch tactics and protect your installations!!!! seriously they decimate tanks. |
Sgt Buttscratch
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:35:00 -
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you got killed by a MLT tank loool
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Omareth Nasadra
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
204
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:36:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Ummmmm.......now even the tankers hate tank spam....good I love it. My new Tank destruction record just jumped from 5 in a single match (replicated 5-6 times now) to 9 plus one assist. killed 7 in a single match with AV, theres some seriously bad tank out there atm
Minmatar, In rust we trust!!!
Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
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Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
2413
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:38:00 -
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Omareth Nasadra wrote:True Adamance wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Ummmmm.......now even the tankers hate tank spam....good I love it. My new Tank destruction record just jumped from 5 in a single match (replicated 5-6 times now) to 9 plus one assist. killed 7 in a single match with AV, theres some seriously bad tank out there atm Yea because everyone and their moms are using tanks. |
Ld Collins
The Phalanx Inc
99
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:38:00 -
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Omareth Nasadra wrote:True Adamance wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Ummmmm.......now even the tankers hate tank spam....good I love it. My new Tank destruction record just jumped from 5 in a single match (replicated 5-6 times now) to 9 plus one assist. killed 7 in a single match with AV, theres some seriously bad tank out there atm Yes the militia tanks are pretty easy to kill if your outnumbered by tankers I don't know why anyone would thing the most logical thing to do is run a tank. You can only effectively shoot one target at a time why go head to head with a pack of tanks. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
905
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:41:00 -
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maybe those MLT tanks WERE the AV the other team used to take you out.
it's common knowledge that MLT tanks and jihad jeeps are now the best AV.
Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1252
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:43:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Lost 4 tanks in a match (around 2 million ISK you scrubs).
Nerf Militia Tanks tag teaming me with damage mods, THEY JUST KEEP COMING, the waves sir, the waves, they were endless, just tanks and tanks and tanks, I tried to compete but no AVers wanted to help, they just ran assault rifles and left me to deal with all of them. Q_Q
As a note, AV is still appreciated and hurts like a biaaatch, aslong as you're not running **** fits, ya'll could've been mauling these endless militia tanks with me and not costing me a shitton of ISK, thanks.
Put it this way 90k isk Sica, mlt shield hardner, mlt shield booster, railgun expansion unit! I take down proto tanks like Paper!
Proto Av, got shot once lost shields, hardened up, boosted shields, survived two full volleys, bugged out with 30% remaing 30 secs later!
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Jason Pearson
3509
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:07:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Ummmmm.......now even the tankers hate tank spam....good
I don't hate it, but if I had a single swarm player with me, able to shoot and make the tanks activate their hardeners so when I got to them they wouldn't be able to sit there tanking it out, that would've been helpful. Don't get me wrong, I killed the bastards, just if I had a graph showing my ISK ratio, It would look awful.
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Run AV?
The swarm launcher with laughable range, small clips, and barely any damage? The forge gun on the gimped heavy suit with a long charge time and meh damage? The plasma cannon which is simply awful? The AV grenades which are almost completely ineffective? The remote explosives which get you banned from FW or are generally quite situational?
Yeah, you can deal with the tank spam on your own.
Get in close and hit them, managed to push back tanks with just CBRs and dam mods. Long charge time? LONG CHARGE TIME? You get the **** out, I keep getting hammered, some chick was going through my shields with hardeners on and I had to run, with them still on. Needs further buffing, won't diagree with you there. Don't need you jihading either lmao.
I wasn't asking for you to solo them, I stating I need to get myself a single AVer to go "SURPRISE" and make the tanks activate their hardeners, that'd be nice. If we had the AVers we did prior to 1.7 **** would be a lot easier :D
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:maybe those MLT tanks WERE the AV the other team used to take you out.
it's common knowledge that MLT tanks and jihad jeeps are now the best AV.
No ****, which is why if I had a single AVer to simply force them to harden before I ambushed them, I wouldn't be nursing a 2mil hole in my wallet xD
Monkey MAC wrote: Put it this way 90k isk Sica, mlt shield hardner, mlt shield booster, railgun expansion unit! I take down proto tanks like Paper!
Proto Av, got shot once lost shields, hardened up, boosted shields, survived two full volleys, bugged out with 30% remaing 30 secs later!
So, if it's near 100k, I guess I shouldn't feel too bad, 800k for my 2mil isn't a "great loss" I s'pose.. xD
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire.
Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
4989
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:09:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:True Adamance wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Ummmmm.......now even the tankers hate tank spam....good I love it. My new Tank destruction record just jumped from 5 in a single match (replicated 5-6 times now) to 9 plus one assist. And the fact that you don't see 5-9+ tanks on average as a sign of something wrong, then.....I just.... smh Not like there were 9 on at one time just the same 3 people taking turns at trying to gun me down.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
124
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:10:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Ummmmm.......now even the tankers hate tank spam....good I love it. My new Tank destruction record just jumped from 5 in a single match (replicated 5-6 times now) to 9 plus one assist.
Got into a Dom match, Red spawned 4 tanks immediately to try and redline us, but my buddy got me up high pretty quick, and was able to pop two of them immediately, and 2 others down the road as the match progressed.
I got OB'd from my perch eventually. I took it as a compliment.
but yeah, fun times, if you're forge gunin'.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin - fatsuit | My Theme Music
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Jason Pearson
3509
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:11:00 -
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Ld Collins wrote: Yes the militia tanks are pretty easy to kill if your outnumbered by tankers I don't know why anyone would think the most logical thing to do is run a tank. You can only effectively shoot one target at a time why go head to head with a pack of tanks.
Because of the challenge, because it's entertaining, because laying an ambush in the hopes of catching people out is more fun to me than hiding in the red line or charging at people holding the trigger down *shrugs*
Sigh, that match was horrible though, first I thought there was one tanker, then on the left another appears, I back up and theres one behind me. Didn't expect that, then I rush up and kill one in my new tank, activate my hardener, get shot, activate booster, accidently de-activate hardener instead of booster, die. 3rd and 4th tank wasn't as bad lol
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire.
Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1253
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:11:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:True Adamance wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Ummmmm.......now even the tankers hate tank spam....good I love it. My new Tank destruction record just jumped from 5 in a single match (replicated 5-6 times now) to 9 plus one assist. And the fact that you don't see 5-9+ tanks on average as a sign of something wrong, then.....I just.... smh
In 16v16 match no, I'd expect to see three per side, at most, not five
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
1009
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:14:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Run AV? The forge gun on the gimped heavy suit with a long charge time and meh damage?
Assault Forge has no problems taking out tanks of both types. You just have to aim it and be in good position. After that, all that is required is good timing and you can solo anything. If the tanker shows you a window of opportunity then you have to capitalize.
So about those vehicle locks...
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
124
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:19:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:In 16v16 match no, I'd expect to see three per side, at most, not five
Agreed -- I think 2 tanks per team is reasonable, 3 max. Anything more is, while fun at the moment, pretty silly.
CCP just wants people to use the frak out of tanks right now, so they can get numbers to balance later on. New weapons more often that not get release OP, and I think the reason is because they want to encourage people to use them, so they can get the numbers to balance later on down the road. Part of the reason you can spawn in 5 tanks, and why they are so cheap right now.
I would expect that once CCP is done collecting data, and the QQ tears rise to Noah's flood-like levels, a tank cap will be instituted and prices per tank increased.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin - fatsuit | My Theme Music
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2263
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:22:00 -
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Ironically I was just watching 28 Days Later on Spike not too long ago...
The RAGE!!
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1253
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:28:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Ummmmm.......now even the tankers hate tank spam....good I don't hate it, but if I had a single swarm player with me, able to shoot and make the tanks activate their hardeners so when I got to them they wouldn't be able to sit there tanking it out, that would've been helpful. Don't get me wrong, I killed the bastards, just if I had a graph showing my ISK ratio, It would look awful. Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Run AV?
The swarm launcher with laughable range, small clips, and barely any damage? The forge gun on the gimped heavy suit with a long charge time and meh damage? The plasma cannon which is simply awful? The AV grenades which are almost completely ineffective? The remote explosives which get you banned from FW or are generally quite situational?
Yeah, you can deal with the tank spam on your own. Get in close and hit them, managed to push back tanks with just CBRs and dam mods. Long charge time? LONG CHARGE TIME? You get the **** out, I keep getting hammered, some chick was going through my shields with hardeners on and I had to run, with them still on. Needs further buffing, won't diagree with you there. Don't need you jihading either lmao. I wasn't asking for you to solo them, I stating I need to get myself a single AVer to go "SURPRISE" and make the tanks activate their hardeners, that'd be nice. If we had the AVers we did prior to 1.7 **** would be a lot easier :D TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:maybe those MLT tanks WERE the AV the other team used to take you out.
it's common knowledge that MLT tanks and jihad jeeps are now the best AV. No ****, which is why if I had a single AVer to simply force them to harden before I ambushed them, I wouldn't be nursing a 2mil hole in my wallet xD Monkey MAC wrote: Put it this way 90k isk Sica, mlt shield hardner, mlt shield booster, railgun expansion unit! I take down proto tanks like Paper!
Proto Av, got shot once lost shields, hardened up, boosted shields, survived two full volleys, bugged out with 30% remaing 30 secs later!
So, if it's near 100k, I guess I shouldn't feel too bad, 800k for my 2mil isn't a "great loss" I s'pose.. xD
Nah don't feel too bad, tank v tank combat basically consists of who's hardener runs out first, and who packs the biggest gun!
The only thing remotely akin to tactics is reversing over your opponent so they can't turn their turret quick enough!
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
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Ld Collins
The Phalanx Inc
99
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:36:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Ld Collins wrote: Yes the militia tanks are pretty easy to kill if your outnumbered by tankers I don't know why anyone would think the most logical thing to do is run a tank. You can only effectively shoot one target at a time why go head to head with a pack of tanks.
Because of the challenge, because it's entertaining, because laying an ambush in the hopes of catching people out is more fun to me than hiding in the red line or charging at people holding the trigger down *shrugs* Sigh, that match was horrible though, first I thought there was one tanker, then on the left another appears, I back up and theres one behind me. Didn't expect that, then I rush up and kill one in my new tank, activate my hardener, get shot, activate booster, accidently de-activate hardener instead of booster, die. 3rd and 4th tank wasn't as bad lol Well you said you do it because its challenging and entertaining but you made this thread to complain about it? I would really like to team up with you in a match. If Avers we to change the way they play the game these tank convoys would not last. There are 3 turrets on a tank for a reason and in 1.6 those 3 turrets were vital tanking alone got you killed and losing 4 tanks cost far more than 2 million isk which I'm sure you're aware. Strategically these players can be eliminated you have 3 sets of RE explosives 4 RE's will blow up any tank without its hardeners on maybe 3. If I played a round in your squad id be your ace in the hole.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
2005
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:54:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Ummmmm.......now even the tankers hate tank spam....good I don't hate it, but if I had a single swarm player with me, able to shoot and make the tanks activate their hardeners so when I got to them they wouldn't be able to sit there tanking it out, that would've been helpful. Don't get me wrong, I killed the bastards, just if I had a graph showing my ISK ratio, It would look awful. If I had a graph showing my isk, it would flatline around 16-17mil....my proto commando fit costs 195k.....and assault dropshiping didn't help the cash flow either.....now that vehicles are slightly OP......I really regret dropping vehicles.
But you must admit, having more than 2 tanks on an enemy team is just a tad ridiculous......
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
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Jason Pearson
3511
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:01:00 -
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Ld Collins wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Ld Collins wrote: Yes the militia tanks are pretty easy to kill if your outnumbered by tankers I don't know why anyone would think the most logical thing to do is run a tank. You can only effectively shoot one target at a time why go head to head with a pack of tanks.
Because of the challenge, because it's entertaining, because laying an ambush in the hopes of catching people out is more fun to me than hiding in the red line or charging at people holding the trigger down *shrugs* Sigh, that match was horrible though, first I thought there was one tanker, then on the left another appears, I back up and theres one behind me. Didn't expect that, then I rush up and kill one in my new tank, activate my hardener, get shot, activate booster, accidently de-activate hardener instead of booster, die. 3rd and 4th tank wasn't as bad lol Well you said you do it because its challenging and entertaining but you made this thread to complain about it? I would really like to team up with you in a match. If Avers we to change the way they play the game these tank convoys would not last. There are 3 turrets on a tank for a reason and in 1.6 those 3 turrets were vital tanking alone got you killed and losing 4 tanks cost far more than 2 million isk which I'm sure you're aware. Strategically these players can be eliminated you have 3 sets of RE explosives 4 RE's will blow up any tank without its hardeners on maybe 3. If I played a round in your squad id be your ace in the hole.
Wasn't as much complaining as telling my story, about how the militia tanks used teamwork to take down myself, and not trying to sound like boasting, am not the easiest of targets to kill, it was also a thing to type to remind myself not to be "angry" about dying but more a reminder that I need AVers to help me lol
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire.
Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
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Jason Pearson
3511
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:03:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Ummmmm.......now even the tankers hate tank spam....good I don't hate it, but if I had a single swarm player with me, able to shoot and make the tanks activate their hardeners so when I got to them they wouldn't be able to sit there tanking it out, that would've been helpful. Don't get me wrong, I killed the bastards, just if I had a graph showing my ISK ratio, It would look awful. If I had a graph showing my isk, it would flatline around 16-17mil....my proto commando fit costs 195k.....and assault dropshiping didn't help the cash flow either.....now that vehicles are slightly OP......I really regret dropping vehicles. But you must admit, having more than 2 tanks on an enemy team is just a tad ridiculous......
I meant more of a ratio in a battle, you know ISK lost vs ISK destroyed. ;)
Nope, I disagree, if anything I want more vehicles, more players, 128 v 128 with 32 vehicle limits would be a lot of fun. :D MOAR ALL THE THINGS
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire.
Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
615
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:08:00 -
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If you can't beat 'em join 'em? Militia Tanks are cheap right?
LogiGod earns his pips
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Jason Pearson
3511
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:12:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:If you can't beat 'em join 'em? Militia Tanks are cheap right?
Not a chance, I will pay for my tank because iirc the things you destroy affect the payout, I don't feel AVers get enough from points and ISK as it is, if they kill me they deserve all 500k of it into the ISK pool.
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire.
Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
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Beld Errmon
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
1146
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Ummmmm.......now even the tankers hate tank spam....good I love it. My new Tank destruction record just jumped from 5 in a single match (replicated 5-6 times now) to 9 plus one assist.
Call when you manage to kill 9 and 4 assault dropships in one match :P |
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RED FARM
GOOD OL' B0YS
33
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Posted - 2013.12.18 02:27:00 -
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It costs about me 70k ISK in a heavy forge suit to be able to have a chance of taking on a tank. So, plan on losing 200k a matchin a AV setup. This setup will wreck flyers.
Two forgers like this can keep tanks away.
Public Chat: GOOD OL' B0YS
Please note the word B0YS has a zero in it.
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